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1. 11:28 AM - things (Bill)
2. 11:53 AM - Re: things (ROBERT SCHWARTZ)
3. 01:21 PM - Re: things (Colyergreg@aol.com)
4. 07:21 PM - Re: things (Bill)
5. 07:47 PM - RVSM/Controllers (SD737@aol.com)
6. 08:41 PM - Re: things (colyergreg@aol.com)
7. 08:44 PM - Re: RVSM/Controllers (colyergreg@aol.com)
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--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kellin.net>
Well, How is everybody? Pretty quiet. I am moving furniture this =
weekend. (all week) I've sold my Captain's house and moving in to the =
new hire second officer home. "Down sizing to profitability" is what =
the airlines call it.
The good news is that I can get 2400' of grass runway. The bad news is =
that its at 6800' elevation! I think I see a Yak 52 in my future.
Any Yak owners operated at that altitude from grass?
Did some viper flying the other day. 31,000' 8 minutes at a comfortable =
speed. Handled nice considering there was no air. I didn't think a =
"piper" wing, (Hershey bar) could get up that high. IAS was about 175 =
kts. True as best I could sifer was about 350. However, fuel was down to =
89 gph! Took 225 liters to get there from engine start. Roll rate was =
non existant up there. I requested a descent to the airport and rolled =
it over, HI YO Silver!! Fell.
Aileron rolls at that attitude (nose down) got better of course in the =
mid 20's. I know, IFR acro. Whats your point? I never lost sight of the =
instrument panel.
Thats my pilot report. Maybe someday we can save some money and do =
another flyin??
I had a great time in California. Vance and Thierry did too. Its good to =
make new friends.
Bill
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--> L29-List message posted by: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net>
thanks for your time in California Bill. It was a great time and you are
lots of fun to fly with.!!!!!!!
Bob
Email: schwartzcompany@worldnet.att.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill" <czech6@kellin.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: L29-List: things
> --> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kellin.net>
>
> Well, How is everybody? Pretty quiet. I am moving furniture this =
> weekend. (all week) I've sold my Captain's house and moving in to the =
> new hire second officer home. "Down sizing to profitability" is what =
> the airlines call it.
>
> The good news is that I can get 2400' of grass runway. The bad news is =
> that its at 6800' elevation! I think I see a Yak 52 in my future.
>
> Any Yak owners operated at that altitude from grass?
>
> Did some viper flying the other day. 31,000' 8 minutes at a comfortable =
> speed. Handled nice considering there was no air. I didn't think a =
> "piper" wing, (Hershey bar) could get up that high. IAS was about 175 =
> kts. True as best I could sifer was about 350. However, fuel was down to =
> 89 gph! Took 225 liters to get there from engine start. Roll rate was =
> non existant up there. I requested a descent to the airport and rolled =
> it over, HI YO Silver!! Fell.
> Aileron rolls at that attitude (nose down) got better of course in the =
> mid 20's. I know, IFR acro. Whats your point? I never lost sight of the =
> instrument panel.
>
> Thats my pilot report. Maybe someday we can save some money and do =
> another flyin??
>
> I had a great time in California. Vance and Thierry did too. Its good to =
> make new friends.
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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--> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol.com
Bill-----How much did the RVSM cost you for the L-29? Did you say you were
a test flight or something to go above 280? Anyway thanks for everything,
that's the best $5,000 patch I ever bought!!!!!!
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--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kellin.net>
Test flight. However, nobody asks if you are RVSM. They assume.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Colyergreg@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: things
> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol.com
>
> Bill-----How much did the RVSM cost you for the L-29? Did you say you
> were
> a test flight or something to go above 280? Anyway thanks for everything,
> that's the best $5,000 patch I ever bought!!!!!!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RVSM/Controllers |
--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com
Hi guys,
Well, I had a 757 that we flew from SEA to DEN and it was filed with the
wrong identifier and the FAA controllers wouldn't let us go above FL280 even
with us telling them we were RVSM equipped, certified and capable. (FAA
controllers, what a waste of tax money) We had to have our dispatch contact the
center and work it out to climb higer.
Believe it or not I thought they actually have a database of RVSM aircraft.
I talked to a corporate guy who was having work done at Stead at Aviation
Classics with a Cessna Citation that wasn't RVSM and he went into RVSM airspace
and later got a letter from the friendly FAA wanting to talk about it...
???
Oh, speaking of FAA controllers.... I was flying into Honolulu this weekend
and the controllers were super lame! The guy gave us a completely bogus
heading and a clearance to descend to 3,000 feet where the terrain was completely
shrouded and obscured by clouds. I'm looking at the enhanced ground
proximity/terrain altitude on the EFIS and it shows terrain at 4,400 feet!!!
It's
always nice to have been into an area a lot where you are able to recognize
when the controllers have majorly screwed up and you instantly know a bad
heading, not to mention a deadly altitude.
Point of the story: DON'T trust your controller. They may have just had a
Triple Mocha/Java with an extra shot of expresso juice and be all wired out
of their friggin' mind!!
Fly safe guys!
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--> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com
what do you file W or Q?......On the west coast they ask you....
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill <czech6@kellin.net>
Sent: Sun, 14 May 2006 20:20:47 -0600
Subject: Re: L29-List: things
--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" <czech6@kellin.net>
Test flight. However, nobody asks if you are RVSM. They assume.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Colyergreg@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: things
> --> L29-List message posted by: Colyergreg@aol.com
>
> Bill-----How much did the RVSM cost you for the L-29? Did you say you
> were
> a test flight or something to go above 280? Anyway thanks for everything,
> that's the best $5,000 patch I ever bought!!!!!!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RVSM/Controllers |
--> L29-List message posted by: colyergreg@aol.com
they are suppose to just change it if you tell them you filed wrong.....There
are guys that shouldn't be controlling just as much as guys that shouldn't be
flyin......how do we stay friends?
-----Original Message-----
From: SD737@aol.com
Sent: Sun, 14 May 2006 22:46:49 EDT
Subject: L29-List: RVSM/Controllers
--> L29-List message posted by: SD737@aol.com
Hi guys,
Well, I had a 757 that we flew from SEA to DEN and it was filed with the
wrong identifier and the FAA controllers wouldn't let us go above FL280 even
with us telling them we were RVSM equipped, certified and capable. (FAA
controllers, what a waste of tax money) We had to have our dispatch contact
the
center and work it out to climb higer.
Believe it or not I thought they actually have a database of RVSM aircraft.
I talked to a corporate guy who was having work done at Stead at Aviation
Classics with a Cessna Citation that wasn't RVSM and he went into RVSM airspace
and later got a letter from the friendly FAA wanting to talk about it...
???
Oh, speaking of FAA controllers.... I was flying into Honolulu this weekend
and the controllers were super lame! The guy gave us a completely bogus
heading and a clearance to descend to 3,000 feet where the terrain was
completely
shrouded and obscured by clouds. I'm looking at the enhanced ground
proximity/terrain altitude on the EFIS and it shows terrain at 4,400 feet!!!
It's
always nice to have been into an area a lot where you are able to recognize
when the controllers have majorly screwed up and you instantly know a bad
heading, not to mention a deadly altitude.
Point of the story: DON'T trust your controller. They may have just had a
Triple Mocha/Java with an extra shot of expresso juice and be all wired out
of their friggin' mind!!
Fly safe guys!
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