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From: Dennis Von Ruden
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: L-29 Discussion
I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding L-29
ownership that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be time
to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other have, I
purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box from
Romania with more written documentation and history than I will probably
ever utilize. I'm just in the process of beginning to restore it. Some
comments:
1) When I was a kid, I asked my father many times why he did not
purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. His answer was always
the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to
make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will always want to
own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will never happen.
The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for the
extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to
operate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting
some cheap flying.
2) As I work myself through my middle 50s, it is very apparent
that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people.
Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or later, the L-29
will be worth something. Don't know exactly how much and when, but
history has proven that it will gain in value.
3) The only reason why I did not purchase an existing, flyable
aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my
expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang
CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it
today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and
nut is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me,
that is very important. It's a good, tight airplane that is safe and
will not nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the
rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the
airport to look at them.
4) I know that when the L-29 is completed, I will have more into
it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my
expectations and standards. Along the way, it won't take food off the
table and as I have said to my wife many times, it's still cheaper than
a girlfriend.
5) There is something to be said about ownership. It's not that I
have a neon sign mounted on my head flashing to the whole world that I
own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on top of it. But, to a type
A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplishment that I have
something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does
not have. I'm not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it
does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I shut off the
hanger lights. I'm not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts
that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn't know there was
even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard.
6) I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better
person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to be able to own an ex
military jet in a country that actually will allow you to fly it. (Won't
discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are
people out there trying to figure out how to take our life style away
because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief that no
person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life.
I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very
focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a
guess.
7) Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to
significantly affect my ability to fly? It will always be a factor.
Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some
money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and work a
little bit harder and smarter. I didn't work this hard, to get this far,
just to give up.
8) I feel the L-29 owners need to work together even better in the
areas of replacement parts and training to help ensure we keep flying
our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible
manner.
Thanks.
Dennis
Dennis Von Ruden
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My friend Scott Smith put it best... "There are six billion people on the
planet, and excluding a bit of rounding error, approximately six billion of
them will never get to do this." :-)
Jon
>From: "Dennis Von Ruden" <dvonruden@generalequip.com>
>To: <l29-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:31:09 -0500
>
>
> _____
>
>From: Dennis Von Ruden
>Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM
>To: 'l29-list@matronics.com'
>Subject: L-29 Discussion
>
>
>I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding L-29
>ownership that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be time
>to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other have, I
>purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box from
>Romania with more written documentation and history than I will probably
>ever utilize. I'm just in the process of beginning to restore it. Some
>comments:
>
>
>1) When I was a kid, I asked my father many times why he did not
>purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. His answer was always
>the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to
>make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will always want to
>own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will never happen.
>The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for the
>extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to
>operate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting
>some cheap flying.
>
>
>2) As I work myself through my middle 50s, it is very apparent
>that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people.
>Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or later, the L-29
>will be worth something. Don't know exactly how much and when, but
>history has proven that it will gain in value.
>
>
>3) The only reason why I did not purchase an existing, flyable
>aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my
>expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang
>CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it
>today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and
>nut is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me,
>that is very important. It's a good, tight airplane that is safe and
>will not nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the
>rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the
>airport to look at them.
>
>
>4) I know that when the L-29 is completed, I will have more into
>it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my
>expectations and standards. Along the way, it won't take food off the
>table and as I have said to my wife many times, it's still cheaper than
>a girlfriend.
>
>
>5) There is something to be said about ownership. It's not that I
>have a neon sign mounted on my head flashing to the whole world that I
>own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on top of it. But, to a type
>A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplishment that I have
>something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does
>not have. I'm not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it
>does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I shut off the
>hanger lights. I'm not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts
>that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn't know there was
>even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard.
>
>
>6) I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better
>person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to be able to own an ex
>military jet in a country that actually will allow you to fly it. (Won't
>discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are
>people out there trying to figure out how to take our life style away
>because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief that no
>person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life.
>I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very
>focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a
>guess.
>
>
>7) Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to
>significantly affect my ability to fly? It will always be a factor.
>Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some
>money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and work a
>little bit harder and smarter. I didn't work this hard, to get this far,
>just to give up.
>
>
>8) I feel the L-29 owners need to work together even better in the
>areas of replacement parts and training to help ensure we keep flying
>our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible
>manner.
>
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>Dennis
>
>
> Dennis Von Ruden
>
>
>General Equipment Company
>
>507.451.5510 (P)
>
>507.451.5511 (F)
>
>dvonruden@generalequip.com
>
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well said....
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Von Ruden
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:31 PM
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
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From: Dennis Von Ruden
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM
To: 'l29-list@matronics.com'
Subject: L-29 Discussion
I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding
L-29 ownership that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be
time to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other
have, I purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box
from Romania with more written documentation and history than I will
probably ever utilize. I'm just in the process of beginning to restore
it. Some comments:
1) When I was a kid, I asked my father many times why he did not
purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. His answer was always
the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to
make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will always want to
own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will never happen.
The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for the
extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to
operate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting
some cheap flying.
2) As I work myself through my middle 50s, it is very apparent
that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people.
Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or later, the L-29
will be worth something. Don't know exactly how much and when, but
history has proven that it will gain in value.
3) The only reason why I did not purchase an existing, flyable
aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my
expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang
CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it
today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and
nut is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me,
that is very important. It's a good, tight airplane that is safe and
will not nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the
rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the
airport to look at them.
4) I know that when the L-29 is completed, I will have more into
it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my
expectations and standards. Along the way, it won't take food off the
table and as I have said to my wife many times, it's still cheaper than
a girlfriend.
5) There is something to be said about ownership. It's not that
I have a neon sign mounted on my head flashing to the whole world that I
own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on top of it. But, to a type
A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplishment that I have
something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does
not have. I'm not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it
does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I shut off the
hanger lights. I'm not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts
that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn't know there was
even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard.
6) I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better
person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to be able to own an ex
military jet in a country that actually will allow you to fly it. (Won't
discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are
people out there trying to figure out how to take our life style away
because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief that no
person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life.
I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very
focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a
guess.
7) Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to
significantly affect my ability to fly? It will always be a factor.
Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some
money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and work a
little bit harder and smarter. I didn't work this hard, to get this far,
just to give up.
8) I feel the L-29 owners need to work together even better in
the areas of replacement parts and training to help ensure we keep
flying our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and
responsible manner.
Thanks.
Dennis
Dennis Von Ruden
General Equipment Company
507.451.5510 (P)
507.451.5511 (F)
dvonruden@generalequip.com
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I would have written this piece but I type with 2 fingers.
L29 drivers are the most friendly.
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[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Colombo
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Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
well said....
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From: Dennis <mailto:dvonruden@generalequip.com> Von Ruden
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:31 PM
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
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From: Dennis Von Ruden
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: L-29 Discussion
I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding L-29
ownership that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be time to
offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other have, I
purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box from Romania
with more written documentation and history than I will probably ever
utilize. I'm just in the process of beginning to restore it. Some comments:
1) When I was a kid, I asked my father many times why he did not purchase a
few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. His answer was always the same; he
simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to make the same
mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will always want to own and fly a
Mustang but am smart enough to know it will never happen. The L-29 was cheap
to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for the extra 1-1/2 to 2 million
saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to operate either! I did not
purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting some cheap flying.
2) As I work myself through my middle 50s, it is very apparent that the only
thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people. Which is a sad
commentary about our society. Sooner or later, the L-29 will be worth
something. Don't know exactly how much and when, but history has proven that
it will gain in value.
3) The only reason why I did not purchase an existing, flyable aircraft is
because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my expectations and
standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang CJ6A. I have more
money in that aircraft than it could get out of it today. I knew that going
into the project. But, I know every bolt and nut is good. Everything looks
perfect and works perfect. And, for me, that is very important. It's a good,
tight airplane that is safe and will not nickel and dime me to death.
Hopefully, my son will stop by the rest home and take me flying in them.
Well, at least take me out to the airport to look at them.
4) I know that when the L-29 is completed, I will have more into it than it
is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my expectations and
standards. Along the way, it won't take food off the table and as I have
said to my wife many times, it's still cheaper than a girlfriend.
5) There is something to be said about ownership. It's not that I have a
neon sign mounted on my head flashing to the whole world that I own a jet.
An ex military jet from Romania on top of it. But, to a type A personality,
it does give me a sense of accomplishment that I have something that
99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does not have. I'm not
trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it does make me feel good
inside (whatever that means) when I shut off the hanger lights. I'm not a
bragger and I do not have one of those shirts that says I won because I have
the most toys. I didn't know there was even a contest. I work very hard and
I try to play very hard.
6) I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better person. I
believe I am one of few, lucky people to be able to own an ex military jet
in a country that actually will allow you to fly it. (Won't discuss politics
in this thread.) All during a time when there are people out there trying to
figure out how to take our life style away because they do not approve of
our God. It reaffirms my belief that no person or government is going to
stop me in achieving my goals in life. I would bet that the majority of L-29
owners are hard driving, very focused people that readily accept challenges
and responsibly. Just a guess.
7) Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to significantly
affect my ability to fly? It will always be a factor. Unlike Paris Hilton, I
still need to go to work each day and make some money. But, it will also be
a contributing reason to go out and work a little bit harder and smarter. I
didn't work this hard, to get this far, just to give up.
8) I feel the L-29 owners need to work together even better in the areas of
replacement parts and training to help ensure we keep flying our aircraft on
a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible manner.
Thanks.
Dennis
Dennis Von Ruden
General Equipment Company
507.451.5510 (P)
507.451.5511 (F)
dvonruden@generalequip.com
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Where are you located?
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Von Ruden
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
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From: Dennis Von Ruden
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM
To: 'l29-list@matronics.com'
Subject: L-29 Discussion
I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding
L-29 ownership that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be
time to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other
have, I purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box
from Romania with more written documentation and history than I will
probably ever utilize. I'm just in the process of beginning to restore
it. Some comments:
1) When I was a kid, I asked my father many times why he did not
purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. His answer was always
the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to
make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will always want to
own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will never happen.
The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for the
extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to
operate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting
some cheap flying.
2) As I work myself through my middle 50s, it is very apparent
that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people.
Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or later, the L-29
will be worth something. Don't know exactly how much and when, but
history has proven that it will gain in value.
3) The only reason why I did not purchase an existing, flyable
aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my
expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang
CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it
today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and
nut is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me,
that is very important. It's a good, tight airplane that is safe and
will not nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the
rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the
airport to look at them.
4) I know that when the L-29 is completed, I will have more into
it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my
expectations and standards. Along the way, it won't take food off the
table and as I have said to my wife many times, it's still cheaper than
a girlfriend.
5) There is something to be said about ownership. It's not that
I have a neon sign mounted on my head flashing to the whole world that I
own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on top of it. But, to a type
A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplishment that I have
something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does
not have. I'm not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it
does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I shut off the
hanger lights. I'm not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts
that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn't know there was
even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard.
6) I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better
person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to be able to own an ex
military jet in a country that actually will allow you to fly it. (Won't
discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are
people out there trying to figure out how to take our life style away
because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief that no
person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life.
I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very
focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a
guess.
7) Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to
significantly affect my ability to fly? It will always be a factor.
Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some
money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and work a
little bit harder and smarter. I didn't work this hard, to get this far,
just to give up.
8) I feel the L-29 owners need to work together even better in
the areas of replacement parts and training to help ensure we keep
flying our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and
responsible manner.
Thanks.
Dennis
Dennis Von Ruden
General Equipment Company
507.451.5510 (P)
507.451.5511 (F)
dvonruden@generalequip.com
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Subject: | Re: L-29 Discussion |
Funny how the "EX" owners have turned on our airplanes. It used to be
good enough for them too?????
Oh well.
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From: gary and ann
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
I would have written this piece but I type with 2 fingers.
L29 drivers are the most friendly.
Gary Cole
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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:13 PM
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
well said....
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From: Dennis Von Ruden
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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:31 PM
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
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From: Dennis Von Ruden
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM
To: 'l29-list@matronics.com'
Subject: L-29 Discussion
I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding
L-29 ownership that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be
time to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other
have, I purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box
from Romania with more written documentation and history than I will
probably ever utilize. I'm just in the process of beginning to restore
it. Some comments:
1) When I was a kid, I asked my father many times why he did not
purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. His answer was always
the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to
make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will always want to
own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will never happen.
The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for the
extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to
operate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting
some cheap flying.
2) As I work myself through my middle 50s, it is very apparent that
the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people. Which
is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or later, the L-29 will be
worth something. Don't know exactly how much and when, but history has
proven that it will gain in value.
3) The only reason why I did not purchase an existing, flyable
aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my
expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang
CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it
today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and
nut is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me,
that is very important. It's a good, tight airplane that is safe and
will not nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the
rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the
airport to look at them.
4) I know that when the L-29 is completed, I will have more into it
than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my
expectations and standards. Along the way, it won't take food off the
table and as I have said to my wife many times, it's still cheaper than
a girlfriend.
5) There is something to be said about ownership. It's not that I
have a neon sign mounted on my head flashing to the whole world that I
own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on top of it. But, to a type
A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplishment that I have
something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does
not have. I'm not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it
does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I shut off the
hanger lights. I'm not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts
that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn't know there was
even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard.
6) I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better
person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to be able to own an ex
military jet in a country that actually will allow you to fly it. (Won't
discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are
people out there trying to figure out how to take our life style away
because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief that no
person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life.
I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very
focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a
guess.
7) Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to
significantly affect my ability to fly? It will always be a factor.
Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some
money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and work a
little bit harder and smarter. I didn't work this hard, to get this far,
just to give up.
8) I feel the L-29 owners need to work together even better in the
areas of replacement parts and training to help ensure we keep flying
our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible
manner.
Thanks.
Dennis
Dennis Von Ruden
General Equipment Company
507.451.5510 (P)
507.451.5511 (F)
dvonruden@generalequip.com
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The L-29 is a good basic jet trainer, but for about the same fuel burn the
L-39 offers a ride that is at least worth the $$$$$$$$ blowing out the tail
pipe.
I've found the next best thing to owning one of these "green house gas
burners" is to have a friend that owns both an L-29 & L-39 who lets you fly it
whenever you I feel the need to drop 500 bucks and go out and contribute to
global warming for an hour.
As far as it being a P-51 in 50 years, well, I'm not counting on it and more
importantly, I probably won't be alive at that point. It's a nice thought
though. :-)
Anyone coming out to the Reno Air Races this year?
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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To many L-29's to annual.
Scott did you get my other E mails re parts?
Thanks
Bill
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From: SD737@aol.com
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
The L-29 is a good basic jet trainer, but for about the same fuel burn
the L-39 offers a ride that is at least worth the $$$$$$$$ blowing out
the tail pipe.
I've found the next best thing to owning one of these "green house gas
burners" is to have a friend that owns both an L-29 & L-39 who lets you
fly it whenever you I feel the need to drop 500 bucks and go out and
contribute to global warming for an hour.
As far as it being a P-51 in 50 years, well, I'm not counting on it
and more importantly, I probably won't be alive at that point. It's a
nice thought though. :-)
Anyone coming out to the Reno Air Races this year?
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14 folks registered to come to the Lamar, CO formation clinic, BBQ,
plus????
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I'm located in Owatonna, Minnesota. In order to get an engineering
degree I had to give up something. I had to make a choice in high school
between chemistry and learning how to type. I chose chemistry. I should
have learned how to type. I'm now up to four fingers on a good day.
Dennis Von Ruden
General Equipment Company
507.451.5510 (P)
507.451.5511 (F)
dvonruden@generalequip.com
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From: Bill [mailto:czech6@kellin.net]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
Where are you located?
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From: Dennis Von Ruden <mailto:dvonruden@generalequip.com>
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Discussion
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From: Dennis Von Ruden
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM
To: 'l29-list@matronics.com'
Subject: L-29 Discussion
I have read with great interest the various perspectives
regarding L-29 ownership that have been offered on this list. Thought it
might be time to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few
other have, I purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big
box from Romania with more written documentation and history than I will
probably ever utilize. I'm just in the process of beginning to restore
it. Some comments:
1) When I was a kid, I asked my father many times why he did not
purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. His answer was always
the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to
make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will always want to
own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will never happen.
The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for the
extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to
operate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting
some cheap flying.
2) As I work myself through my middle 50s, it is very apparent
that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people.
Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or later, the L-29
will be worth something. Don't know exactly how much and when, but
history has proven that it will gain in value.
3) The only reason why I did not purchase an existing, flyable
aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my
expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang
CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it
today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and
nut is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me,
that is very important. It's a good, tight airplane that is safe and
will not nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the
rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the
airport to look at them.
4) I know that when the L-29 is completed, I will have more into
it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my
expectations and standards. Along the way, it won't take food off the
table and as I have said to my wife many times, it's still cheaper than
a girlfriend.
5) There is something to be said about ownership. It's not that
I have a neon sign mounted on my head flashing to the whole world that I
own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on top of it. But, to a type
A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplishment that I have
something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does
not have. I'm not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it
does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I shut off the
hanger lights. I'm not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts
that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn't know there was
even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard.
6) I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better
person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to be able to own an ex
military jet in a country that actually will allow you to fly it. (Won't
discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are
people out there trying to figure out how to take our life style away
because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief that no
person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life.
I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very
focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a
guess.
7) Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to
significantly affect my ability to fly? It will always be a factor.
Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some
money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and work a
little bit harder and smarter. I didn't work this hard, to get this far,
just to give up.
8) I feel the L-29 owners need to work together even better in
the areas of replacement parts and training to help ensure we keep
flying our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and
responsible manner.
Thanks.
Dennis
Dennis Von Ruden
General Equipment Company
507.451.5510 (P)
507.451.5511 (F)
dvonruden@generalequip.com
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