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     1. 06:23 AM - Re: L-29 Discussion (colyergreg@aol.com)
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    Time: 06:23:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: L-29 Discussion
    From: colyergreg@aol.com
    Very well said as well.=C2- You are right on the mark!!=C2- Brian, any l uck with those engine mounts for the vipers?=C2- lets get it done -----Original Message----- From: Brian Colombo <Bcolombo@twcny.rr.com> Sent: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 6:12 pm Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Discussion well said.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Von Ruden Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: L29-List: L-29 Discussion =C2- =C2- From: Dennis Von Ruden Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: L-29 Discussion =C2- I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding L-29 owne rship that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be time to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other have, I purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box from Romania with more wri tten documentation and history than I will probably ever utilize. I =99m just in the process of beginning to restore it. Some comments: =C2- 1)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- When I was a kid, I asked my father m any times why he did not purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. H is answer was always the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will a lways want to own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will neve r happen. The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for t he extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to op erate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting some c heap flying. =C2- 2)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- As I work myself through my middle 50 s, it is very apparent that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people. Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or late r, the L-29 will be worth something. Don=99t know exactly how much and when, but history has proven that it will gain in value. =C2- 3)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- The only reason why I did not purchas e an existing, flyable aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and nu t is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me, that is very important. It=99s a good, tight airplane that is safe and will no t nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the airport to loo k at them. =C2- 4)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I know that when the L-29 is complete d, I will have more into it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my expectations and standards. Along the way, it won =99t take food off the table and as I have said to my wife many times, it =99s still cheaper than a girlfriend. =C2- 5)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- There is something to be said about o wnership. It=99s not that I have a neon sign mounted on my head flashi ng to the whole world that I own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on t op of it. But, to a type A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplis hment that I have something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does not have. I=99m not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I sh ut off the hanger lights. I=99m not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn=99t know there was even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard . =C2- 6)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to b e able to own an ex military jet in a country that actually will allow you t o fly it. (Won=99t discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are people out there trying to figure out how to take our life s tyle away because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief tha t no person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life. I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a guess. =C2- 7)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to significantly affect my ability to fly? It will alway s be a factor. Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and wo rk a little bit harder and smarter. I didn=99t work this hard, to get this far, just to give up. =C2- 8)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I feel the L-29 owners need to work t ogether even better in the areas of replacement parts and training to help e nsure we keep flying our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible manner. =C2- =C2- Thanks. =C2- Dennis =C2- =C2- Dennis Von Ruden =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- General Equipment Company 507.451.5510 (P) 507.451.5511 (F) dvonruden@generalequip.com =C2- =C2- =C2- From: Dennis Von Ruden Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: L-29 Discussion =C2- I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding L-29 owne rship that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be time to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other have, I purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box from Romania with more wri tten documentation and history than I will probably ever utilize. I =99m just in the process of beginning to restore it. Some comments: =C2- 1)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- When I was a kid, I asked my father m any times why he did not purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. H is answer was always the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will a lways want to own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will neve r happen. The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for t he extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to op erate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting some c heap flying. =C2- 2)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- As I work myself through my middle 50 s, it is very apparent that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people. Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or late r, the L-29 will be worth something. Don=99t know exactly how much and when, but history has proven that it will gain in value. =C2- 3)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- The only reason why I did not purchas e an existing, flyable aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and nu t is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me, that is very important. It=99s a good, tight airplane that is safe and will no t nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the airport to loo k at them. =C2- 4)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I know that when the L-29 is complete d, I will have more into it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my expectations and standards. Along the way, it won =99t take food off the table and as I have said to my wife many times, it =99s still cheaper than a girlfriend. =C2- 5)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- There is something to be said about o wnership. It=99s not that I have a neon sign mounted on my head flashi ng to the whole world that I own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on t op of it. But, to a type A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplis hment that I have something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does not have. I=99m not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I sh ut off the hanger lights. I=99m not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn=99t know there was even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard . =C2- 6)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to b e able to own an ex military jet in a country that actually will allow you t o fly it. (Won=99t discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are people out there trying to figure out how to take our life s tyle away because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief tha t no person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life. I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a guess. =C2- 7)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to significantly affect my ability to fly? It will alway s be a factor. Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and wo rk a little bit harder and smarter. I didn=99t work this hard, to get this far, just to give up. =C2- 8)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I feel the L-29 owners need to work t ogether even better in the areas of replacement parts and training to help e nsure we keep flying our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible manner. =C2- =C2- Thanks. =C2- Dennis =C2- =C2- Dennis Von Ruden =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- General Equipment Company 507.451.5510 (P) 507.451.5511 (F) dvonruden@generalequip.com =C2- ALL INFORMATION IN THIS EMAIL, AND/OR ATTACHMENT(S) IS CONFIDENTIAL. If you received this e mail in error, and are not the recipient(s) or responsible f or receiving this e mail for the recipient, please inform the sender immedia tely, delete the e mail and any attachment(s) associated. This email has been scanned by Barracuda - Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL at AOL.com.


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    Time: 06:26:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: L-29 Discussion
    From: colyergreg@aol.com
    Again very well said! -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Von Ruden <dvonruden@generalequip.com> Sent: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 3:31 pm Subject: L29-List: L-29 Discussion =C2- =C2- From: Dennis Von Ruden Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: L-29 Discussion =C2- I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding L-29 owne rship that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be time to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other have, I purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box from Romania with more wri tten documentation and history than I will probably ever utilize. I =99m just in the process of beginning to restore it. Some comments: =C2- 1)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- When I was a kid, I asked my father m any times why he did not purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. H is answer was always the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will a lways want to own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will neve r happen. The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for t he extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to op erate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting some c heap flying. =C2- 2)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- As I work myself through my middle 50 s, it is very apparent that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people. Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or late r, the L-29 will be worth something. Don=99t know exactly how much and when, but history has proven that it will gain in value. =C2- 3)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- The only reason why I did not purchas e an existing, flyable aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and nu t is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me, that is very important. It=99s a good, tight airplane that is safe and will no t nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the airport to loo k at them. =C2- 4)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I know that when the L-29 is complete d, I will have more into it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my expectations and standards. Along the way, it won =99t take food off the table and as I have said to my wife many times, it =99s still cheaper than a girlfriend. =C2- 5)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- There is something to be said about o wnership. It=99s not that I have a neon sign mounted on my head flashi ng to the whole world that I own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on t op of it. But, to a type A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplis hment that I have something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does not have. I=99m not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I sh ut off the hanger lights. I=99m not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn=99t know there was even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard . =C2- 6)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to b e able to own an ex military jet in a country that actually will allow you t o fly it. (Won=99t discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are people out there trying to figure out how to take our life s tyle away because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief tha t no person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life. I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a guess. =C2- 7)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to significantly affect my ability to fly? It will alway s be a factor. Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and wo rk a little bit harder and smarter. I didn=99t work this hard, to get this far, just to give up. =C2- 8)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I feel the L-29 owners need to work t ogether even better in the areas of replacement parts and training to help e nsure we keep flying our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible manner. =C2- =C2- Thanks. =C2- Dennis =C2- =C2- Dennis Von Ruden =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- General Equipment Company 507.451.5510 (P) 507.451.5511 (F) dvonruden@generalequip.com =C2- =C2- =C2- From: Dennis Von Ruden Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: L-29 Discussion =C2- I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding L-29 owne rship that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be time to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other have, I purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box from Romania with more wri tten documentation and history than I will probably ever utilize. I =99m just in the process of beginning to restore it. Some comments: =C2- 1)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- When I was a kid, I asked my father m any times why he did not purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. H is answer was always the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will a lways want to own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will neve r happen. The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for t he extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to op erate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting some c heap flying. =C2- 2)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- As I work myself through my middle 50 s, it is very apparent that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people. Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or late r, the L-29 will be worth something. Don=99t know exactly how much and when, but history has proven that it will gain in value. =C2- 3)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- The only reason why I did not purchas e an existing, flyable aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and nu t is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me, that is very important. It=99s a good, tight airplane that is safe and will no t nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the airport to loo k at them. =C2- 4)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I know that when the L-29 is complete d, I will have more into it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my expectations and standards. Along the way, it won =99t take food off the table and as I have said to my wife many times, it =99s still cheaper than a girlfriend. =C2- 5)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- There is something to be said about o wnership. It=99s not that I have a neon sign mounted on my head flashi ng to the whole world that I own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on t op of it. But, to a type A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplis hment that I have something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does not have. I=99m not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I sh ut off the hanger lights. I=99m not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn=99t know there was even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard . =C2- 6)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to b e able to own an ex military jet in a country that actually will allow you t o fly it. (Won=99t discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are people out there trying to figure out how to take our life s tyle away because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief tha t no person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life. I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a guess. =C2- 7)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to significantly affect my ability to fly? It will alway s be a factor. Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and wo rk a little bit harder and smarter. I didn=99t work this hard, to get this far, just to give up. =C2- 8)=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I feel the L-29 owners need to work t ogether even better in the areas of replacement parts and training to help e nsure we keep flying our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible manner. =C2- =C2- Thanks. =C2- Dennis =C2- =C2- Dennis Von Ruden =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- General Equipment Company 507.451.5510 (P) 507.451.5511 (F) dvonruden@generalequip.com =C2- ALL INFORMATION IN THIS EMAIL, AND/OR ATTACHMENT(S) IS CONFIDENTIAL. If you received this e mail in error, and are not the recipient(s) or responsible f or receiving this e mail for the recipient, please inform the sender immedia tely, delete the e mail and any attachment(s) associated. This email has been scanned by Barracuda - Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL at AOL.com.




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