---------------------------------------------------------- L29-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/10/07: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:41 AM - Almost farming in L-29 (Jorgen Nielsen) 2. 11:16 AM - Re: Almost farming in L-29 (Ernest Martinez) 3. 05:37 PM - Re: Almost farming in L-29 (czech6@kellin.net) 4. 07:02 PM - Re: Almost farming in L-29 (gary and ann) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:58 AM PST US From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Hi All Just to copy the Yak52 in which I recently had a brake failure and went farming, my L29 decided to follow suit yesterday afternoon :-) I had stopped during taxi for traffic, and asked the GIB to hold brakes so I could charge up the hydraulic accumulator which was a bit low. Then got radio call to say traffic was clearing so told GIB to let go brakes, applied power and taxied away. Wanted to turn so eased in some rudder and applied brakes slightly - uh oh no brakes. Released, tried again, nothing, cut power and simultaneously applied emergency brake. It works great! Stopped in time so avoided the farming experience. Anyone have this before? Brakes working fine from the back, but front. Cable not broken. My engineer tells me that where both cables come in to brake mechanism, something has gone wrong. Regards to all Jorgen ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:16:18 AM PST US From: "Ernest Martinez" Subject: Re: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Sounds like your GIB didnt let go, rear brakes override front. I reversed mine since the rear brakes are more sensitive. Ernie On 9/10/07, Jorgen Nielsen wrote: > > Hi All > > > Just to copy the Yak52 in which I recently had a brake failure and went > farming, my L29 decided to follow suit yesterday afternoon J > > > I had stopped during taxi for traffic, and asked the GIB to hold brakes s o > I could charge up the hydraulic accumulator which was a bit low. > > > Then got radio call to say traffic was clearing so told GIB to let go > brakes, applied power and taxied away. Wanted to turn so eased in some > rudder and applied brakes slightly ' uh oh no brakes. Released, tried a gain, > nothing, cut power and simultaneously applied emergency brake. It works > great! Stopped in time so avoided the farming experience. > > > Anyone have this before? Brakes working fine from the back, but front. > Cable not broken. My engineer tells me that where both cables come in to > brake mechanism, something has gone wrong. > > > Regards to all > > Jorgen > > * > =========== =========== =========== > > * > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:47 PM PST US From: czech6@kellin.net Subject: Re: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 System is working as designed. The instructor in the back has command authority. When the GIB squeezes the brakes it disengages the front brake the guy in front has to squeeze a couple times to regain brake authority. ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 HiAll Just to copy the Yak52 in which Irecently had a brake failure and went farming, my L29decided to follow suit yesterday afternoonJ I had stopped during taxi fortraffic, and asked the GIB to hold brakes so I couldcharge up the hydraulic accumulator which was a bitlow. Then got radio call to saytraffic was clearing so told GIB to let go brakes, appliedpower and taxied away. Wanted to turn so eased insome rudder and applied brakes slightly uh oh nobrakes. Released, tried again, nothing, cut power andsimultaneously applied emergency brake. It worksgreat! Stopped in time so avoided the farmingexperience. Anyone have this before? Brakes working fine from the back, but front. Cablenot broken. My engineer tells me that where bothcables come in to brake mechanism, something has gonewrong. Regards toall Jorgen ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:04 PM PST US From: "gary and ann" Subject: RE: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Yep, the system is great . Bill is right for once. Gary Cole Changed mine long ago front can now over ride rear _____ I've stopped 11,006 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at www.cloudmark.com Cloudmark Desktop - Join the fight against spam! _____ From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of czech6@kellin.net Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Sys tem is working as designed. The instructor in the back has command authority. When the GIB squeezes the brakes it disengages the front brake the guy in front has to squeeze a couple times to regain brake authority. ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 HiAll Just to copy the Yak52 in which Irecently had a brake failure and went farming, my L29decided to follow suit yesterday afternoon:-) I had stopped during taxi fortraffic, and asked the GIB to hold brakes so I couldcharge up the hydraulic accumulator which was a bitlow. Then got radio call to saytraffic was clearing so told GIB to let go brakes, appliedpower and taxied away. Wanted to turn so eased insome rudder and applied brakes slightly - uh oh nobrakes. Released, tried again, nothing, cut power andsimultaneously applied emergency brake. It worksgreat! Stopped in time so avoided the farmingexperience. 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