L29-List Digest Archive

Mon 09/17/07


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 05:24 AM - Re: Almost farming in L-29 (Jorgen Nielsen)
     2. 06:35 AM - Re: Almost farming in L-29 (Bill)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:24:25 AM PST US
    From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: Almost farming in L-29
    Update - all fixed. Did not swap as cables lengths were different and I was running out of time. In case it helps someone else on list, here is how mine works as standard. There is a lever / cam thingie on the mechanism operated as standard by the rear brake. This engages the cable drive from front brake. If you pull rear brake hard (lots of movement) this dis-engages the lever / front brake. No amount of fussing with front brake will re-engage, ever. Pulling rear brake "normally" or fully does not re-engage the lever and front brake. To re-engage, pull rear brake just a touch. This causes the lever to re-engage, and front cockpit brake starts working again. I also think its a good idea to swap the cables, for 2 reasons: 1. In my typical use the rear seat is usually occupied by pax who you do not want overriding anything in front. Best to have "master" in front. 2. Much easier pull - front as standard pulls 2 springs, rear only one spring, so less effort to apply brakes. Easier to lock up a wheel tho. Regards to all. Jorgen _____ From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary and ann Sent: 11 September 2007 04:01 AM Subject: RE: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Yep, the system is great . Bill is right for once. Gary Cole Changed mine long ago front can now over ride rear _____ I've stopped 11,006 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at www.cloudmark.com <http://www.cloudmark.com/sigs?rc=avj4hl> <http://www.cloudmark.com/sigs?rc=avj4hl> Cloudmark Desktop - Join the fight against spam! _____ From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of czech6@kellin.net Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Sys tem is working as designed. The instructor in the back has command authority. When the GIB squeezes the brakes it disengages the front brake the guy in front has to squeeze a couple times to regain brake authority. ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 HiAll Just to copy the Yak52 in which Irecently had a brake failure and went farming, my L29decided to follow suit yesterday afternoon:-) I had stopped during taxi fortraffic, and asked the GIB to hold brakes so I couldcharge up the hydraulic accumulator which was a bitlow. Then got radio call to saytraffic was clearing so told GIB to let go brakes, appliedpower and taxied away. Wanted to turn so eased insome rudder and applied brakes slightly - uh oh nobrakes. Released, tried again, nothing, cut power andsimultaneously applied emergency brake. It worksgreat! Stopped in time so avoided the farmingexperience. Anyone and much much more:


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    Time: 06:35:57 AM PST US
    From: "Bill" <czech6@kellin.net>
    Subject: Re: Almost farming in L-29
    Swap the cables anyway and you can make it longer at the brake handle. Good Job! Did you here of all the bad news at Reno? not a good weekend. Google Reno Air Races ----- Original Message ----- From: Jorgen Nielsen To: l29-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 6:21 AM Subject: RE: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Update - all fixed. Did not swap as cables lengths were different and I was running out of time. In case it helps someone else on list, here is how mine works as standard. There is a lever / cam thingie on the mechanism operated as standard by the rear brake. This engages the cable drive from front brake. If you pull rear brake hard (lots of movement) this dis-engages the lever / front brake. No amount of fussing with front brake will re-engage, ever. Pulling rear brake "normally" or fully does not re-engage the lever and front brake. To re-engage, pull rear brake just a touch. This causes the lever to re-engage, and front cockpit brake starts working again. I also think its a good idea to swap the cables, for 2 reasons: 1.. In my typical use the rear seat is usually occupied by pax who you do not want overriding anything in front. Best to have "master" in front. 2.. Much easier pull - front as standard pulls 2 springs, rear only one spring, so less effort to apply brakes. Easier to lock up a wheel tho. Regards to all. Jorgen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary and ann Sent: 11 September 2007 04:01 AM To: l29-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Yep, the system is great . Bill is right for once. Gary Cole Changed mine long ago front can now over ride rear ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- I've stopped 11,006 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at www.cloudmark.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of czech6@kellin.net Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:03 PM To: l29-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Sys tem is working as designed. The instructor in the back has command authority. When the GIB squeezes the brakes it disengages the front brake the guy in front has to squeeze a couple times to regain brake authority. ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Jorgen Nielsen" To: Subject: L29-List: Almost farming in L-29 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:38:38 +0200 HiAll Just to copy the Yak52 in which Irecently had a brake failure and went farming, my L29decided to follow suit yesterday afternoonJ I had stopped during taxi fortraffic, and asked the GIB to hold brakes so I couldcharge up the hydraulic accumulator which was a bitlow. Then got radio call to saytraffic was clearing so told GIB to let go brakes, appliedpower and taxied away. Wanted to turn so eased insome rudder and applied brakes slightly - uh oh nobrakes. Released, tried again, nothing, cut power andsimultaneously applied emergency brake. It worksgreat! Stopped in time so avoided the farmingexperience. Anyone and much much more:




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