---------------------------------------------------------- L29-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/19/07: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:58 PM - FAA 600 NM Restriction (SD737@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:35 PM PST US From: SD737@aol.com Subject: L29-List: FAA 600 NM Restriction Hi guys, Here's some info for you on the 600NM restrictions for experimental exhibition jets. No More 300/600 FAA Range Restrictions?? Great news from WOA and the FAA; it looks like the 300 and 600 nautical mil e restrictions on our warbirds is a thing of the past. Here is the letter from WOA: EAA and the Warbirds of America (WOA) received terrific news this week from the FAA regarding experimental exhibition operating limitations for former military aircraft in Groups I, II, and III. The FAA has announced a process to allow for a letter of deviation_[RR1]_ (http://www.maildogmanager.com/link.html?url=122&client=redstar&campaign =317&email=waltmurphy@charter.net) , permitting owners to conduct proficiency flights beyond the 300 nm (piston) and 600 nm (turbine) radius of operations stipulated in a section of FAA Order 8130.2F. The geographic limitations were adopted as a safety measure in the early 1990s when a large number of former military aircraft was imported into the United States. Since then, safety records have shown that the proficiency limitations did little, if anything, to improve safety. Industry groups, in cluding WOA, felt that allowing pilots to train outside these limits would help rai se the pilot=99s experience and proficiency levels, thus improving safet y. Discussions on the issue turned a huge corner during _meetings hosted by EA A and WOA_ (http://www.maildogmanager.com/link.html?url=123&client=redstar&campaign =317&email=waltmurphy@charter.net) in March 2007 when industry representatives and senior FAA officials reviewed FAA Order 8130.2F and dis cussed recommendations on future revisions. At EAA AirVenture 2007 in July, the FA A agreed to issue the letter of deviation and discussed the proposed timetabl e for its release. Other organizations represented included the Commemorative Air Force (CAF); Classic Jet Aircraft Association (CJAA); and Courtesy Aircraft . Input was also received from the Army Aviation Heritage Foundation (AAHF); North American Trainer Association (NATA); Red Star Pilots Association (RPA ); International Aerobatic Club (IAC); as well as pilots and owners of former military aircraft. =9CWe are extremely pleased with this outcome,=9D said Rick Sie gfried, EAA Warbirds of America president. =9CEAA Warbirds of America and our ind ustry partners have worked very hard on our members=99 behalf. By meeting face-to-fa ce in Oshkosh with FAA officials, we were able to work through this and other iss ues. We have submitted a list of recommended revisions to FAA Order 8130.2F and look forward to even more progress in the weeks and months to come. =9D Owners of experimental exhibition aircraft are encouraged to review the FAA memorandum and decide for themselves if it is in their best interest to request the letter of deviation. For many owners and operators of warbirds aircraft, this is an attractive option, helping them expand their training and proficiency options. Siegfried applauded the EAA Government Relations Programs staff of Earl Lawrence, Doug Macnair, Randy Hansen, and Lynn Nelson for their support, al ong with the industry partners who participated in the process. Also playing ke y roles were WOA Executive Director Bill Fischer and the WOA Government Affai rs Committee, including Connie Bowlin, Ray Dieckman, Jack Harrington, Bill Harrison, Michael Schloss, Siegfried, and Warren Wood. EAA, EAA Warbirds of America, and industry representatives will continue to work on our member=99s behalf to maintain and improve our freedom of flight. For more information regarding EAA Warbirds of America programs and activit ies, or to join or renew your EAA Warbirds of America membership, visit _www.warbirds-eaa.org_ (http://www.maildogmanager.com/link.html?url=92&client=redstar&campaign =317&email=waltmurphy@charter.net) . How to obtain the letter of deviation: 1. Former military aircraft receiving initial experimental exhibition (FAR 21.191(d)) certification from today forward, need to present the Septe mber 11, 2007 FAA Memorandum to their FSDO in order to be exempt from the 300/600-mile proficiency flight area limitation. The next change to FAA Ord er 8130.2(F) will contain the elimination of this requirement, but in the mean time, this FAA Memorandum is the authority to remove the proficiency flight area limitation on their operating limitations. 1. All former military experimental exhibition aircraft in Groups I, II, and III currently operating and with the flight proficiency 300/600 mil e limitations on their operating limitations must continue to operate under t he issued limitations until such time they get their operating limitations updated from their local FSDO. 1. All former military experimental exhibition aircraft owners can immediately apply to their local FSDO to amend their operating limitations t o eliminate the 300/600-mile flight proficiency area limitation. Once amended, they will no longer have a proficiency flight area limitation. When submitti ng the request to the FSDO to drop the proficiency area limitation, owners should: 1. Submit a cover letter to their local FSDO=94=9CRequest t he operating limitations issued to TYPE OF AIRCRAFT, N-NUMBER, be updated to eliminate t he proficiency flight area limitation per FAA Memorandum, subject: Deviation t o Order 8130.2, dated September 11, 2007, from Frank Paskiewicz, Manager AIR-200. FAA headquarters, AFS-800, and AIR-200 have approved that this ope rating limitation change request will be processed per FAA Order 8130.2F, paragrap h 27b(6), and no aircraft certification inspection is required for this paper work change.=9D The owners need to attach the following to their letter: (1) A completed FAA Form 8130-6 _http://forms.faa.gov/forms/faa8130-6d.pdf/_ (http://www.maildogmanager.com/link.html?url=124&client=redstar&campaign =317&email=waltmurphy@charter.net) ; and (2) A copy of their current operating limitations (not the original); an d (3) A copy of their aircraft registration (not the original); and (4) A copy of the FAA Memorandum from AIR-200. 1. As a note, once the local FSDO office is ready to update the operating limitations, the owners can expect to go to that office and excha nge their old operating limitations for a new set (face to face). 2. 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