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1. 05:15 AM - Del Macy's (L29 Seller in WA) Accident in Nov (PSalter@aol.com)
2. 06:48 AM - Re: Del Macy's (L29 Seller in WA) Accident in Nov (Colyergreg)
3. 07:07 AM - Re: insurance (Colyergreg)
4. 07:07 AM - Re: Del Macy's (L29 Seller in WA) Accident in Nov (Colyergreg)
5. 07:08 AM - Re: (Colyergreg)
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| Subject: | Del Macy's (L29 Seller in WA) Accident in Nov |
This is the guy that I bought the L29 from. No wonder he needs money...
_Click here: AIG Aviation.com - International Information_
(http://www.aigaviation.com/aviationsalvage/salvagedetail.aspx?faano=N81705)
NTSB Identification: WPR09CA041
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Saturday, November 08, 2008 in Mountain Home, ID
Probable Cause Approval Date: 12/24/2008
Aircraft: WSK PZL MIELEC M-18A, registration: N81705
Injuries: 1 Uninjured.
The pilot reported he was taxing the airplane to the active runway when he
realized the airplane's tail wheel lock was engaged. With the engine still
running, the pilot set the parking brake, installed the control lock and exited
the airplane with the intention of manually unlocking the tail wheel. When the
pilot exited the cockpit he inadvertently knocked/pushed the throttle
forward, to a high power setting, and the airplane started to roll across the
taxiway. The unoccupied airplane accelerated, momentarily became airborne, and
collided with an airport perimeter fence and terrain. The airplane sustained
substantial damage to the fuselage, empennage and both wings. No pre accident
mechanical malfunctions or failures were reported.
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| Subject: | Re: Del Macy's (L29 Seller in WA) Accident in Nov |
What did you pick it up for? Where are you based?
Sent from my iPhone,
Greg
On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:13 AM, PSalter@aol.com wrote:
> This is the guy that I bought the L29 from. No wonder he needs
> money...
>
> Click here: AIG Aviation.com - International Information
>
> NTSB Identification: WPR09CA041
> 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
> Accident occurred Saturday, November 08, 2008 in Mountain Home, ID
> Probable Cause Approval Date: 12/24/2008
> Aircraft: WSK PZL MIELEC M-18A, registration: N81705
> Injuries: 1 Uninjured.
> The pilot reported he was taxing the airplane to the active runway
> when he realized the airplane's tail wheel lock was engaged. With
> the engine still running, the pilot set the parking brake, installed
> the control lock and exited the airplane with the intention of
> manually unlocking the tail wheel. When the pilot exited the cockpit
> he inadvertently knocked/pushed the throttle forward, to a high
> power setting, and the airplane started to roll across the taxiway.
> The unoccupied airplane accelerated, momentarily became airborne,
> and collided with an airport perimeter fence and terrain. The
> airplane sustained substantial damage to the fuselage, empennage and
> both wings. No pre accident mechanical malfunctions or failures were
> reported.
>
>
> New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making _-
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Hey guys sorry about this but I was off a bit on my insurance. I paid
right at $2300 a year. I was thinking my other a/c policy......still
cheap though.
Sent from my iPhone,
Greg
On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:13 AM, PSalter@aol.com wrote:
> This is the guy that I bought the L29 from. No wonder he needs
> money...
>
> Click here: AIG Aviation.com - International Information
>
> NTSB Identification: WPR09CA041
> 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
> Accident occurred Saturday, November 08, 2008 in Mountain Home, ID
> Probable Cause Approval Date: 12/24/2008
> Aircraft: WSK PZL MIELEC M-18A, registration: N81705
> Injuries: 1 Uninjured.
> The pilot reported he was taxing the airplane to the active runway
> when he realized the airplane's tail wheel lock was engaged. With
> the engine still running, the pilot set the parking brake, installed
> the control lock and exited the airplane with the intention of
> manually unlocking the tail wheel. When the pilot exited the cockpit
> he inadvertently knocked/pushed the throttle forward, to a high
> power setting, and the airplane started to roll across the taxiway.
> The unoccupied airplane accelerated, momentarily became airborne,
> and collided with an airport perimeter fence and terrain. The
> airplane sustained substantial damage to the fuselage, empennage and
> both wings. No pre accident mechanical malfunctions or failures were
> reported.
>
>
> New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making _-
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| Subject: | Re: Del Macy's (L29 Seller in WA) Accident in Nov |
Oh that's the one you and Taylor got
Sent from my iPhone,
Greg
On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Colyergreg <colyergreg@aol.com> wrote:
> What did you pick it up for? Where are you based?
>
> Sent from my iPhone,
> Greg
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:13 AM, PSalter@aol.com wrote:
>
>> This is the guy that I bought the L29 from. No wonder he needs
>> money...
>>
>> Click here: AIG Aviation.com - International Information
>>
>> NTSB Identification: WPR09CA041
>> 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
>> Accident occurred Saturday, November 08, 2008 in Mountain Home, ID
>> Probable Cause Approval Date: 12/24/2008
>> Aircraft: WSK PZL MIELEC M-18A, registration: N81705
>> Injuries: 1 Uninjured.
>> The pilot reported he was taxing the airplane to the active runway
>> when he realized the airplane's tail wheel lock was engaged. With
>> the engine still running, the pilot set the parking brake,
>> installed the control lock and exited the airplane with the
>> intention of manually unlocking the tail wheel. When the pilot
>> exited the cockpit he inadvertently knocked/pushed the throttle
>> forward, to a high power setting, and the airplane started to roll
>> across the taxiway. The unoccupied airplane accelerated,
>> momentarily became airborne, and collided with an airport perimeter
>> fence and terrain. The airplane sustained substantial damage to
>> the fuselage, empennage and both wings. No pre accident mechanical
>> malfunctions or failures were reported.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making http://worums.matronics.com
>> ">http://forums.ma href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">
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| Subject: | Re: e: L29-List: |
John
I'm sorry I paid $2290 for my insurance
Sent from my iPhone,
Greg
On Jan 1, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Colyergreg <colyergreg@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Falcon is the agent, I'll get you the underwriter when back from
> vacation on Monday.
>
> Sent from my iPhone,
> Greg
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2009, at 11:09 PM, "John Cabrera"
> <propblast@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> Greg,
>>
>> Who do you insure with? I insure my l-29 but it cost me way more
>> than
>> that....
>>
>> John Cabrera
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colyergreg
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 6:43 PM
>> To: l29-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: L29-List:
>>
>>
>>
>> Just the fuel pretty much. I had mine for 4 years and just fueled and
>> flew. Insurance was $1300 a year plus tie down or hanger
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2008, at 10:11 PM, "Trevor Jennings" <tjennings@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> <tjennings@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Thats fair enough. I plan on doing the IFR someday anyway. At the
>>> moment I'm in the process of building a Zodiac CH650 but definitely
>>> want to see what the L-29 is like.
>>>
>>> Whats the approximate cost per hour to run one of those birds
>>> anyway?
>>>
>>> - Trevor
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Bill Culberson
>>> <bculberson@staraviation.com> wrote:
>>>> Well, the IFR rating is not really for IMC flying in the L-29. The
>>>> FAA's
>>>> position (as described to me by my instructor) is more a level of
>>>> competency
>>>> plus better instrument scanning. Keeping track of airspeeds in
>>>> decent and
>>>> engine indication is a key part of flying the L-29. The good news
>>>> is that
>>>> the engine just keeps running and running and running...as long as
>>>> there is
>>>> fuel. Very low maintenance requirements are really one of the best
>>>> things
>>>> about the L-29.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By the way, you won't fly an L-29 for "an hour or two", you will
>>>> find that
>>>> 20-30 minutes will check the box without tearing up your checkbook.
>>>> Takeoff,
>>>> 10 min jet acro, Simulated Flame Out recovery to the pattern and
>>>> your ready
>>>> to land and get out. I took mine to Oshkosh this year, and while
>>>> fun, it was
>>>> pretty hard on the butt flying that far.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> RAMPEYBOY@aol.com
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:45 AM
>>>>
>>>> To: l29-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: L29-List:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trevor me and you are in same boat. I'd give my eye teeth for
>>>> one. But I
>>>> am too deep already on a Mustang II kitplane, and may never have
>>>> the 1000
>>>> hours OR the IFR rating. I wish they would drop the IFR
>>>> requirement. Here's
>>>> why: I don't fly long distances, nor do I fly at night, or for long
>>>> periods
>>>> of time. I fly when I want, for fun in the daylight. I am
>>>> definitely a fair
>>>> weather flier. My intentions for an L-29 is to fly locally, for an
>>>> hour or
>>>> two at a time. I know and understand the dangers of getting into
>>>> IMC, and
>>>> respect those who have the training, and ability to fly IFR. But
>>>> for me, I
>>>> could not fly enough to be a safe, proficient IFR pilot. So, an IFR
>>>> rating
>>>> is more likely to cause me to get into IMC, and not come out! My
>>>> two cents
>>>> worth. So for the immediate future, I am going to enjoy my Mustang
>>>> II once
>>>> complete, and dream of an L-29...........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>
>>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>
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