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1. 12:04 AM - External start battery (Jorgen Nielsen)
2. 12:17 AM - Re: External start battery (Neville Cameron)
3. 12:54 AM - SV: [Spam] Re: External start battery (Lasse Rungholm)
4. 01:47 AM - Nev's L-29 (franknlynn)
5. 07:42 AM - Re: External start battery (Colyergreg)
6. 07:47 AM - Re: External start battery (Colyergreg)
7. 08:30 AM - Re: External start battery (Bill Culberson)
8. 08:33 AM - Re: [Spam] Re: External start battery (Jorgen Nielsen)
9. 08:33 AM - Re: External start battery (Jorgen Nielsen)
10. 09:29 AM - Re: External start battery (Jorgen Nielsen)
11. 10:16 AM - Re: External start battery (Bill Culberson)
12. 11:42 AM - Re: Nev's L-29 (Neville Cameron)
13. 11:54 AM - Re: Nev's L-29 (Colyergreg)
14. 11:59 AM - Re: Nev's L-29 (SD737@aol.com)
15. 12:25 PM - Re: Nev's L-29 (Bill Culberson)
16. 01:03 PM - Re: Nev's L-29 (Jon Boede)
17. 02:40 PM - Re: Nev's L-29 (SD737@aol.com)
18. 04:13 PM - Re: Nev's L-29 (franknlynn)
19. 06:51 PM - Re: Nev's L-29 (David M.)
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| Subject: | External start battery |
Hi All
Was having a chat with my AMO re starting the L29 and the issue around on
board start vs external power came up. What are you guys all using? I am
thinking of using 2 x 24V plus 1 x 6V battery making up a 30V system for
starting only. Is this too high?
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| Subject: | Re: External start battery |
Dear Jorgen,
Pete Taylor used 2 Odyssey 940 series inside and
it started fine, I used it on my plane and it was fine.
Having a turnkey airplane is sooo good, just like a 172.
Regards
Neville
----- Original Message -----
From: Jorgen Nielsen
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:00 PM
Subject: L29-List: External start battery
Hi All
Was having a chat with my AMO re starting the L29 and the issue around
on board start vs external power came up. What are you guys all using?
I am thinking of using 2 x 24V plus 1 x 6V battery making up a 30V
system for starting only. Is this too high?
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| Subject: | Re: External start battery |
Dear Jorgen
We practically never use ground power for starting. We fly app. 150
sorties a year and have had no problems. We have just changed batteries
for the first time in 7 years.
I still owe you a trip!
Lasse - OY-LSD
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Sendt: ti 17-02-2009 09:17
Til: l29-list@matronics.com
Emne: [Spam] Re: L29-List: External start battery
Dear Jorgen,
Pete Taylor used 2 Odyssey 940 series inside and
it started fine, I used it on my plane and it was fine.
Having a turnkey airplane is sooo good, just like a 172.
Regards
Neville
----- Original Message -----
From: Jorgen Nielsen
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:00 PM
Subject: L29-List: External start battery
Hi All
Was having a chat with my AMO re starting the L29 and the issue around
on board start vs external power came up. What are you guys all using?
I am thinking of using 2 x 24V plus 1 x 6V battery making up a 30V
system for starting only. Is this too high?
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Neville,
How's your -29 going? Do you still have it?
Frank
Oz
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| Subject: | Re: External start battery |
30 volts too much
Sent from my iPhone,
Greg
On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:17 AM, "Neville Cameron" <ncam@wave.co.nz> wrote:
> Dear Jorgen,
> Pete Taylor used 2 Odyssey 940 series inside
> and it started fine, I used it on my plane and it was fine.
> Having a turnkey airplane is sooo good, just like a 172.
> Regards
> Neville
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jorgen Nielsen
> To: l29-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:00 PM
> Subject: L29-List: External start battery
>
> Hi All
>
>
> Was having a chat with my AMO re starting the L29 and the issue
> around on board start vs external power came up. What are you guys
> all using? I am thinking of using 2 x 24V plus 1 x 6V battery
> making up a 30V system for starting only. Is this too high?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: External start battery |
Jorgen
I only used the same odessy batteries as well.
Sent from my iPhone,
Greg
On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:17 AM, "Neville Cameron" <ncam@wave.co.nz> wrote:
> Dear Jorgen,
> Pete Taylor used 2 Odyssey 940 series inside
> and it started fine, I used it on my plane and it was fine.
> Having a turnkey airplane is sooo good, just like a 172.
> Regards
> Neville
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jorgen Nielsen
> To: l29-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:00 PM
> Subject: L29-List: External start battery
>
> Hi All
>
>
> Was having a chat with my AMO re starting the L29 and the issue
> around on board start vs external power came up. What are you guys
> all using? I am thinking of using 2 x 24V plus 1 x 6V battery
> making up a 30V system for starting only. Is this too high?
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: External start battery |
Hi Lasse
All noted 'still want to take you up on that trip, need to get to
Danmark
sometime, hopefully this year to see family there.
Regards
Jorgen
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lasse Rungholm
Sent: 17 February 2009 10:50 AM
Subject: SV: [Spam] Re: L29-List: External start battery
Dear Jorgen
We practically never use ground power for starting. We fly app. 150
sorties
a year and have had no problems. We have just changed batteries for the
first time in 7 years.
I still owe you a trip!
Lasse - OY-LSD
-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com p=E5 vegne af Neville Cameron
Sendt: ti 17-02-2009 09:17
Til: l29-list@matronics.com
Emne: [Spam] Re: L29-List: External start battery
Dear Jorgen,
Pete Taylor used 2 Odyssey 940 series inside and
it
started fine, I used it on my plane and it was fine.
Having a turnkey airplane is sooo good, just like a 172.
Regards
Neville
----- Original Message -----
From: Jorgen Nielsen
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:00 PM
Subject: L29-List: External start battery
Hi All
Was having a chat with my AMO re starting the L29 and the issue around
on
board start vs external power came up. What are you guys all using? I
am
thinking of using 2 x 24V plus 1 x 6V battery making up a 30V system for
starting only. Is this too high?
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| Subject: | External start battery |
Hi Neville
My onboard batteries perfect, looking for external solution.
We at 5000ft at density altitudes up to 8000ft. With the air being so thin
you have to manually retard the fuel flow lever (a lot) to keep EGT within
limits.
So up here its recommended to use external start - I did this once at a
military airbase and she fired up nice and cool and quick.
Hows your L29 going?
Regards to all on the list!
Jorgen
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Neville Cameron
Sent: 17 February 2009 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External start battery
Dear Jorgen,
Pete Taylor used 2 Odyssey 940 series inside and it
started fine, I used it on my plane and it was fine.
Having a turnkey airplane is sooo good, just like a 172.
Regards
Neville
----- Original Message -----
From: Jorgen Nielsen <mailto:jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:00 PM
Subject: L29-List: External start battery
Hi All
Was having a chat with my AMO re starting the L29 and the issue around on
board start vs external power came up. What are you guys all using? I am
thinking of using 2 x 24V plus 1 x 6V battery making up a 30V system for
starting only. Is this too high?
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/
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href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | External start battery |
This is exactly my point re higher voltage for start.
I know some of the ground power units will maintain 28V, even under
load.
My reckoning is that the normal onboard 24V system is depressed to 20V
when starting, and a 30V battery system will depress to 25V when
starting.
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Culberson
Sent: 17 February 2009 06:33 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External start battery
I also have the oddysey batteries and have 150+ starts on them with out
much issue. I have, however, used ground power with a much higher
current capacity and it is the prefered way to go. It starts 40 percent
faster than fresh oddyseys. The starter will live longer if the voltage
is kept as close to 28 volts during the start up process as that keeps
current flow low and therefore waste heat generated lower. According to
my checklist, the start should occur within 30 seconds (to idle) I
change the batteries when, fully charged, it can't make 30 seconds. try
a good ground power cart (+300A) as comparisons, mine will be fully
started in 15-18 seconds. Engines and parts are relatively cheap, but
I'd hate to buy and INSTALL a starter...
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Sent using BlackBerry
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com>
Sent: Tue Feb 17 02:00:11 2009
Subject: L29-List: External start battery
Hi All
Was having a chat with my AMO re starting the L29 and the issue around
on board start vs external power came up. What are you guys all using?
I am thinking of using 2 x 24V plus 1 x 6V battery making up a 30V
system for starting only. Is this too high?
~,
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Dear Folks,
I sold it for $50,000 nz about 6 months ago.
I am being prosecuted by the CAA (nz) for making a solo flight of about
45 minutes relocating the plane to shelter, after its Annual.
I am Being prosecuted for flying without a type rating which is a silly
charge because
1. I got a type rating in the USA with Doug. Gillis and
2. The Airplane is not recognised as a type, therefore how can you get a
type rating anyhow?
The case is about some envious ex airforce pilots who are now in the CAA
and are trying to display their power.
Its all about freedom, I guess.
Regards
Neville
----- Original Message -----
From: franknlynn
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:46 PM
Subject: L29-List: Nev's L-29
Neville,
How's your -29 going? Do you still have it?
Frank
Oz
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That's f'd up! How did they know you flew it?
Or how did they find out?
Sent from my iPhone,
Greg
On Feb 17, 2009, at 11:42 AM, "Neville Cameron" <ncam@wave.co.nz> wrote:
> Dear Folks,
> I sold it for $50,000 nz about 6 months ago.
> I am being prosecuted by the CAA (nz) for making a solo flight of
> about 45 minutes relocating the plane to shelter, after its Annual.
> I am Being prosecuted for flying without a type rating which is a
> silly charge because
> 1. I got a type rating in the USA with Doug. Gillis and
> 2. The Airplane is not recognised as a type, therefore how can you
> get a type rating anyhow?
> The case is about some envious ex airforce pilots who are now in the
> CAA and are trying to display their power.
> Its all about freedom, I guess.
> Regards
> Neville
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: franknlynn
> To: l29-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:46 PM
> Subject: L29-List: Nev's L-29
>
> Neville,
>
> How's your -29 going? Do you still have it?
>
> Frank
> Oz
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://
> www.matronics.com/c
> - Release Date: 02/16/09 18:31:00
>
>
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Email the person directly to their personal email OFF List
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
steps!
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Was on the list because the topic was of potential interest to all,
SD737 should just ignore or delete....I thought that was the whole point
of the list in the first place? You know, share ideas, experiences and
the like....
________________________________
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SD737@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: Nev's L-29
Email the person directly to their personal email OFF List
________________________________
A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above.
?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hm
pgI
D=62%26bcd=febemailfooterNO62"> See yours in just 2 easy steps!
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I was *potentially* interested. Sometimes the gossip is better than the te
chnical stuff! :-)
Subject: RE: L29-List: Nev's L-29
From: bculberson@staraviation.com
Was on the list because the topic was of
potential interest to all=2C SD737 should just ignore or delete=85.I though
t
that was the whole point of the list in the first place? You know=2C share
ideas=2C
experiences and the like=85.
From:
owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On
Behalf Of SD737@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday=2C February 17=2C 2009
1:57 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: Nev's L-29
Email the person directly to their
personal email OFF List
A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above.
?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpg
ID=62%26bcd=febemailfooterNO62">
See yours in just 2 easy steps!
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhtt
p://www.matronics.com/contribution
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My point exactly! .. should have responded directly to me... Typical....
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
steps!
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Yep...just one big happy family here!
Frank
Oz
My point exactly! .. should have responded directly to me...
Typical....
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