---------------------------------------------------------- L29-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/23/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:26 AM - Re: L-29 (Bill Geipel) 2. 05:34 AM - Re: Hi Bill (Bill Geipel) 3. 07:54 AM - Re: Re: Hi Bill (John Cabrera) 4. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: Hi Bill (David) 5. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: Hi Bill (Jean de ROUBIN) 6. 04:41 PM - Re: Re: Hi Bill (Bill Geipel) 7. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Hi Bill (Bill Geipel) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:53 AM PST US From: "Bill Geipel" Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Re: L29-List: L-2930 years old. Quailfies as antiques. Don't know the full history. Log books tell the maintenance side but never knew a pilot that admitted to the silly things he did alone in the prctice area.?? My body can't take it, and if I can't it done in 6g, I really screwed up. Just my thoughts. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Culberson To: l29-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Why would you de rate? Personal de rate or aircraft derate? Any math involved or just a "gut" feeling? ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com To: l29-list@matronics.com Sent: Thu Oct 22 23:04:50 2009 Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 No problems. Still the same "G" rating. However, due to the age of the jets, most of us here have lowered them to 6/3. With the viper I can do loops without diving to acclerate. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean de ROUBIN To: Bill Geipel Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: L29-List: L-29 Hi, Bill Do you have any problems with viper and aerobatic ? Is the L-29 still +8 -4 with viper ? Eaxctly. I know of no one that has rebalanced. At the supersonic speeds that the L-29 flies at, it doesn't seem to be an issue. Actually most of the reskinned rudders were just reinstalled and life is good. My is reskinned and I cruise at 325 kts. (I love my Viper!) No problems. Jean de Roubin B. P. 8455 98 703 - FAA'A Polyn=C3=A9sie Fran=C3=A7aise Tel : (+689)742620 Mail : delfin@mail.pf href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?L29-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD~=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD,=EF=BD=03g(=EF =BD=EF=BD=EF=BDM=EF=BDGq=EF=BDz=EF=BD=EF=BD ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:21 AM PST US From: "Bill Geipel" Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop. 95gph. 325 true. FL240. Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O money. I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you know anybody with a pocket full of cash. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: SD737@aol.com To: czech6@mesanetworks.net Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: Hi Bill Hey Bill, Scott here in Reno. Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane? What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight? What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country? Thanks for the info ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:57 AM PST US From: "John Cabrera" Subject: RE: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill Bill, I still don't have your e-mail. John Cabrera. propblast@earthlink.net From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop. 95gph. 325 true. FL240. Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O money. I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you know anybody with a pocket full of cash. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: SD737@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: Hi Bill Hey Bill, Scott here in Reno. Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane? What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight? What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country? Thanks for the info ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:32 AM PST US From: "David" Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill how much is a pocketful? and is that 95 gph with the "viper" engine or the standard, which I thought was about 120 gph? David ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Geipel To: SD737@aol.com ; l29-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop. 95gph. 325 true. FL240. Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O money. I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you know anybody with a pocket full of cash. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: SD737@aol.com To: czech6@mesanetworks.net Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: Hi Bill Hey Bill, Scott here in Reno. Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane? What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight? What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country? Thanks for the info ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:04 PM PST US From: Jean de ROUBIN Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill Bill, what could be the price ? Le 23 oct. 2009 =E0 04:53, John Cabrera a =E9crit : Bill, I still don=92t have your e-mail. John Cabrera. propblast@earthlink.net From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list- server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop. 95gph. 325 true. FL240. Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O money. I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you know anybody with a pocket full of cash. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: SD737@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: Hi Bill Hey Bill, Scott here in Reno. Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane? What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight? What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country? Thanks for the info http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:53 PM PST US From: "Bill Geipel" Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill Viper is 90 - 95 at FL240. Stock enginen should be from 115 to 120. (If you have enough fuel to get to FL240 and time!) ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: l29-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill how much is a pocketful? and is that 95 gph with the "viper" engine or the standard, which I thought was about 120 gph? David ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Geipel To: SD737@aol.com ; l29-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop. 95gph. 325 true. FL240. Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O money. I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you know anybody with a pocket full of cash. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: SD737@aol.com To: czech6@mesanetworks.net Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: Hi Bill Hey Bill, Scott here in Reno. Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane? What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight? What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country? Thanks for the info href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?L29-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:46 PM PST US From: "Bill Geipel" Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill Taking offers. I also have a spare engine with only 1000 hrs. on it (Over 3000 TBO) Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: l29-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill how much is a pocketful? and is that 95 gph with the "viper" engine or the standard, which I thought was about 120 gph? David ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Geipel To: SD737@aol.com ; l29-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: L29-List: Re: Hi Bill I think it's a 540. 3400lbs. You can actually see the gauge moving during taxi out. I would guess it's 200++ at tree top level. I flew Dallas (actually Lancaster,TX) to Lamar, colorado, 485 miles non-stop. 95gph. 325 true. FL240. Pete had called and said y'all got the viper bug. Lots 'O fun! Lot 'O money. I'm thinking of selling my Viper. I even have a spare engine if you know anybody with a pocket full of cash. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: SD737@aol.com To: czech6@mesanetworks.net Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: Hi Bill Hey Bill, Scott here in Reno. Do you have the Viper 522 in your plane? What is the real fuel burn per hour for a local flight? What's the real fuel burn per hour if you go cross country? 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