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1. 06:45 AM - Re: External Tanks (Bill Culberson)
2. 07:24 AM - Re: External Tanks (Bill Culberson)
3. 08:25 AM - Re: External Tanks (Anthony Royal)
4. 02:39 PM - Re: External Tanks ()
5. 05:08 PM - L-29 Compressor (delfin@mail.pf)
6. 05:33 PM - Re: L-29 Compressor (Bill Culberson)
7. 06:15 PM - Re: L-29 Compressor (delfin@mail.pf)
8. 07:06 PM - Re: L-29 Compressor (Bill Geipel)
9. 08:07 PM - electric compressor and filters... (franknlynn)
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| Subject: | Re: External Tanks |
me too please!
skyking76t@verizon.net
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Send pix and description.
czech6@mesanetworks.net
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin@mail.pf
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
I have a electric compressor with filters, in place of the IFF (front, righ
t) who deliver me compressed air for brakes (works at 20 psi, stops at 50)
Jean de Roubin
B. P.=C2-8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polyn=C3=A9sie fran=C3=A7aise
Tel=C2-: (+689)742620
Mail :
=C2-delfin@mail.pf
Le 13 oct. 2010 =C3- 09:09, Bill Culberson a =C3=A9crit :
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it before
me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time working on mi
ne recently making sure it will hold air as long as possible. In doing so,
I have removed a check a number of components and have had no corrosion to
speak of. As long as it=99s DRY, I think that is the most significant
issue. I=99d be curious to know what other L-29 guys are using
.
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that is p
retty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had. Detector
was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer) that she wil
l hold 70 bar for months at a time now
Bill
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and cheaper to
o. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area.=C2-I under stand they are 20 cu/
ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT approved and th
at solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam@wave.co.nz> wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam@wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks with
removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get them refi
lled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From:=C2-Anthony Royal
To:=C2-l29-list@matronics.com
Sent:=C2-Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject:=C2-Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this wi
ll be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't chan
ge it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll keep yo
u in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On=C2-Tue, 10/12/10, David=C2-<ainut@knology.net>=C2-wrote:
From: David <ainut@knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
To:=C2-l29-list@matronics.com
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles?=C2- They check s
cuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with zer
o hours jet time, I might be available.=C2- Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to tran
sfer my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia . I am trying to ins
tall the external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on
the support rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support ro
ds into the latches. When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but
doesn't lock. As soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seem
s to be in the jettison position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still o
pen. Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics
but still no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the cl
osed position? Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to h
old the hook in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US
and be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if th
ey are removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro test
ed?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
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me to please
fly@topredwarbirds.com.au
regards Tim Windsor
Topred Warbirds
Hunter Valley
0412881016
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
From: Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.net>
me too please!
skyking76t@verizon.net
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Send pix and description.
czech6@mesanetworks.net
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin@mail.pf
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
I have a electric compressor with filters, in place of the IFF (front,
right) who deliver me compressed air for brakes (works at 20 psi, stops
at 50) Jean de Roubin
B. P. 8455
98 703 - FAA'A
Polynsie franaise
Tel : (+689)742620
Mail : delfin@mail.pf
Le 13 oct. 2010 09:09, Bill Culberson a crit :
I have used scuba air for the last 3 years and they guy that had it
before me used scuba seven years before that. I have spent some time
working on mine recently making sure it will hold air as long as
possible. In doing so, I have removed a check a number of components and
have had no corrosion to speak of. As long as its DRY, I think that
is the most significant issue. Id be curious to know what other L-29
guys are using.
BTW, I found a pretty cool ultrasonic leak detector from Grainger that
is pretty amazing. It surprised me how many really small leaks I had.
Detector was so sensitive and found so many leaks (and one bad reducer)
that she will hold 70 bar for months at a time now
Bill
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Maybe better to stay with the nitrogen than dry air?
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote:
From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Dry air is never dryer than Nitro. But it works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
So, dry air can be used in place of the nitrogen? Great idea and
cheaper too. Plenty of SCUBA shops around my area. I under stand they
are 20 cu/ft tanks. Should be able to get aluminum tanks that are DOT
approved and that solves the FAA problem.
Thanks!
Tony
--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam@wave.co.nz> wrote:
From: Neville+/or Liz Cameron <ncam@wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
If I was doing it again, I would replace the nitrogen and oxygen tanks
with removable dive tanks, clipped in, and take them out and just get
them refilled, lots of tyre shops use nitrogen, but I just used air in
mine.
Regards
Neville
On 13/10/2010, at 4:33 PM, Bill Geipel wrote:
who did you buy it from?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Royal
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
Hey David,
Wish I could accomodate you but I am taking an instructor along and this
will be my training for the type rating. I had an LOA in 2000 but didn't
change it to a type rating. So I have to do the training over. But I'll
keep you in mind for the future.
Regards
Tony
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David <ainut@knology.net> wrote:
From: David <ainut@knology.net>
Subject: Re: L29-List: External Tanks
I wonder if a scuba dive shop would check those bottles? They check
scuba bottles, up to 5-7,000 psi routinely.
If you need a copilot for your MN to VA trip and can use a copilot with
zero hours jet time, I might be available. Depends on the time frame.
David
> Could someone out there maybe help with a problem? I am preparing to transfer
my newly acquired L-29 from Minnesota to Virginia . I am trying to install the
external fuel tanks but can't get the hardpoint hooks to close on the support
rods. I was told all that was needed was to push the support rods into the latches.
When this is done, the hook closes around the rod but doesn't lock. As
soon as pressure is released, the hooks springs open. Seems to be in the jettison
position all the time.
> We've tried all the switch combinations on the armament panel and still open.
Checked all the right panel switches in the F/C and R/C and schematics but still
no cigar. Could someone tell me how to set the hooks into the closed position?
Only other solution is to put a bolt thru the mechansim to hold the hook
in the closed position.
> Another issue. Can the Czech NO2 and O2 bottles be hydro tested in the US and
be DOT approved if they pass? I've heard they had to be replaced if they are
removed from the aircraft. Is this correct or can they be hydro tested?
> Any advise would be appreciated
> Thanks,
> Anthony
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The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
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Sorry, it is not psi but Bar.
I have no idea of make and model. I think it is a czech one.
Jean
Le 14 oct. 2010 =E0 14:32, Bill Culberson a =E9crit :
Wow, that's pretty cool. One question though. Do you mean PSI or BAR
(ATM). Minimum onboard air pressure is 50 BAR which is about 725 PSI.
Max is 150 BAR or 2175 PSI. If your electric air compressor goes to 725
PSI in 15 minutes and you have had no moisture related failures of your
air system, I'd like to buy one. Do you have a make and model for it?
Thanks!
BTW, make/model for ultrasonic leak detector is Amprobe UT-300...
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com>
Sent: Thu Oct 14 19:05:47 2010
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
>
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| Subject: | Re: L-29 Compressor |
send pictures of compressor.
----- Original Message -----
From: delfin@mail.pf
To: l29-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
Sorry, it is not psi but Bar.
I have no idea of make and model. I think it is a czech one.
Jean
Le 14 oct. 2010 =E0 14:32, Bill Culberson a =E9crit :
Wow, that's pretty cool. One question though. Do you mean PSI or BAR
(ATM). Minimum onboard air pressure is 50 BAR which is about 725 PSI.
Max is 150 BAR or 2175 PSI. If your electric air compressor goes to 725
PSI in 15 minutes and you have had no moisture related failures of your
air system, I'd like to buy one. Do you have a make and model for it?
Thanks!
BTW, make/model for ultrasonic leak detector is Amprobe UT-300...
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com>
To: l29-list@matronics.com <l29-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thu Oct 14 19:05:47 2010
Subject: L29-List: L-29 Compressor
The compressor is in place on my plane in 1998. Its always works well.
It il in place in the front, right side, where was the originally IFF.
It is an electric compressor with a switch on the mail panel, front
place. I put it off when aerobatics.
You have to check the oil once a year.
It is on bigs silent-blocs.
It gives air pressure for everything, except the rear canopy seal.
Begins to work at 20 psi, stops at 50.
Takes 14 minutes from 0 to 50 psi, and 7 from 30 to 50.
There is a water draining to be open after each flight.
I have no leaks on my air circuit.
Best regards.
Jean de Roubin
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add me to that list also please...
Frank Deeth
tr.9@westnet.com.au
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