---------------------------------------------------------- L29-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/24/12: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:27 AM - Re: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe (Jean de Roubin) 2. 07:07 AM - Re: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe (Bill Geipel) 3. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe (SD737@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe From: Jean de Roubin For export import licences, taxe in consideration that the L-29 engine was a lso built to be set on a truck for wiping out fog from runways ! More than 9 00 were built for that. I have imported an engine for my L29, in France, not as an engine for =C3- former military plane, but as an apparatus for putt ing out fog. No import licence ! Jean de ROUBIN Le 23 nov. 2012 =C3- 17:47, Paul Hathaway a =C3=A9cri t : > On that note...my completely stripped airframe with low time engine is ava ilable for sale. $18K takes the whole lot. All assemblies are on dollies or c radles in Central MA ready for shipment. Perfect Reno racer project or just p art it out at a profit. > Cheers > Paul > > On Nov 23, 2012 12:14 PM, wrote: >> Hi Bill, >> >> Yep, not only on exporting these engines, but the same deal whether it be importing/exporting. AND the EPA now has gotten involved with the Class of the engine and want to levy a stiff use fee/penalty for these engines. A B IG surprise as you say thanks to our president! >> Scott >> >> >> >> In a message dated 11/23/2012 6:39:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, czech6@ mesanetworks.net writes: >> For what it's worth; >> >> I'll just throw this out there, thanks to our President, ALL former milit ary "Stuff", engines, require an >> Export license/permit. I sold an engine to Australia, 1 year ago, it was g oing to cost over $3500 for the license. >> Just for one engine. Trust me, I tried to get around that for months. I e ven asked an exporter who had a >> license and that didn't work. >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:56 PM, "Frank D" wrote: >> >>> Ok thanks Scott. I'll try but I often have no luck sending PM's to the U SA. >>> >>> I'll send right after this so if nothing arrives please let me know. >>> >>> Frank >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: SD737@aol.com >>> To: l29-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 2:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe >>> >>> Hi Frank, >>> >>> I sold my L-29 because I could see the fuel prices in the future increas ing to a financially unsustainable level where the prices would never be bac k to a point that would make it viable to fly the L-29. At the same time, I also had access to two different L-39's to fly as much as I wanted. Just a dd fuel...., so there was little sense in keeping my L-29. >>> If I was going to burn 180 gallons an hour +/-, the L-39 was a lot more f un to fly,, but still the expense of the fuel was too high, so I backed off o f flying those. Eventually one L-39 was sold. The other L-39 was owned by a good friend of mine and I was able to facilitate this L-39 being moved to d own to California, so another L-29 buddy, Pete, could have the benefit of fl ying an L-39 while at the same time helping the owner. >>> So, now the only time I fly a jet is for my job with the airlines. >>> I've down sized to a Lancair 360 and a J-3 Cub and so I can fly all year with those two aircraft and not burn as much as one I would in an hour in t he L-29/L-39. :-) >>> >>> As far as your other question about parts and M701 overhauled zero time e ngines, go ahead and email me off list at SD737@aol.com >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Scott >>> >>> In a message dated 11/22/2012 6:37:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, tr.9@w estnet.com.au writes: >>> Scott, >>> >>> Do you have any other stuff coming in? Did you end up keeping your -29 a fter the start of the '08/'09 fuel crisis? >>> >>> Frank >>> Oz >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: SD737@aol.com >>> To: l29-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:44 AM >>> Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe >>> >>> Hi Jon, >>> >>> You mentioned you were looking for parts and a overhauled M701 engine. >>> >>> I have a 40' container of factory overhauled zero time M701-500engines w ith log books, tail pipes and nozzles coming into port on the West Coast USA next week. >>> >>> Contact me off list >>> >>> Scott >>> SD737@aol.com >>> >>> In a message dated 11/22/2012 11:10:30 A.M. 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So says t he gov office that Decides and categorizes that stuff. I told them it was a bad engine for disp lay only. He Didn't care. But try Bill On Nov 24, 2012, at 2:17 AM, Jean de Roubin wrote: > For export import licences, taxe in consideration that the L-29 engine was also built to be set on a truck for wiping out fog from runways ! More tha n 900 were built for that. I have imported an engine for my L29, in France, n ot as an engine for =C3- former military plane, but as an apparatus for pu tting out fog. No import licence ! > Jean de ROUBIN > > > Le 23 nov. 2012 =C3- 17:47, Paul Hathaway a =C3=A9c rit : > >> On that note...my completely stripped airframe with low time engine is av ailable for sale. $18K takes the whole lot. All assemblies are on dollies or cradles in Central MA ready for shipment. Perfect Reno racer project or jus t part it out at a profit. >> Cheers >> Paul >> >> On Nov 23, 2012 12:14 PM, wrote: >> Hi Bill, >> >> Yep, not only on exporting these engines, but the same deal whether it be importing/exporting. AND the EPA now has gotten involved with the Class of the engine and want to levy a stiff use fee/penalty for these engines. A B IG surprise as you say thanks to our president! >> Scott >> >> >> >> In a message dated 11/23/2012 6:39:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, czech6@ mesanetworks.net writes: >> For what it's worth; >> >> I'll just throw this out there, thanks to our President, ALL former milit ary "Stuff", engines, require an >> Export license/permit. I sold an engine to Australia, 1 year ago, it was g oing to cost over $3500 for the license. >> Just for one engine. Trust me, I tried to get around that for months. I e ven asked an exporter who had a >> license and that didn't work. >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:56 PM, "Frank D" wrote: >> >>> Ok thanks Scott. I'll try but I often have no luck sending PM's to the U SA. >>> >>> I'll send right after this so if nothing arrives please let me know. >>> >>> Frank >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: SD737@aol.com >>> To: l29-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 2:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe >>> >>> Hi Frank, >>> >>> I sold my L-29 because I could see the fuel prices in the future increas ing to a financially unsustainable level where the prices would never be bac k to a point that would make it viable to fly the L-29. At the same time, I also had access to two different L-39's to fly as much as I wanted. Just a dd fuel...., so there was little sense in keeping my L-29. >>> If I was going to burn 180 gallons an hour +/-, the L-39 was a lot more f un to fly,, but still the expense of the fuel was too high, so I backed off o f flying those. Eventually one L-39 was sold. The other L-39 was owned by a good friend of mine and I was able to facilitate this L-39 being moved to d own to California, so another L-29 buddy, Pete, could have the benefit of fl ying an L-39 while at the same time helping the owner. >>> So, now the only time I fly a jet is for my job with the airlines. >>> I've down sized to a Lancair 360 and a J-3 Cub and so I can fly all year with those two aircraft and not burn as much as one I would in an hour in t he L-29/L-39. :-) >>> >>> As far as your other question about parts and M701 overhauled zero time e ngines, go ahead and email me off list at SD737@aol.com >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Scott >>> >>> In a message dated 11/22/2012 6:37:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, tr.9@w estnet.com.au writes: >>> Scott, >>> >>> Do you have any other stuff coming in? Did you end up keeping your -29 a fter the start of the '08/'09 fuel crisis? >>> >>> Frank >>> Oz >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: SD737@aol.com >>> To: l29-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:44 AM >>> Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe >>> >>> Hi Jon, >>> >>> You mentioned you were looking for parts and a overhauled M701 engine. >>> >>> I have a 40' container of factory overhauled zero time M701-500engines w ith log books, tail pipes and nozzles coming into port on the West Coast USA next week. >>> >>> Contact me off list >>> >>> Scott >>> SD737@aol.com >>> >>> In a message dated 11/22/2012 11:10:30 A.M. 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It goes in a classification as a jet engine and then the fun begins. If you try to lie about what it is or what it's use is then you risk it being hung up at the port upon arriva l when US Customs opens the container, and then you will pay port fees and then be significantly delayed because you don't have the proper export do cumentation from the country of origin and you won't have the required US government agency paperwork approvals which will take several months to obtain. In the mean time the port authority and US Customs will have a he fty storage bill for you. In a message dated 11/24/2012 7:07:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, czech6@mesanetworks.net writes: That is worth a try, however, It was originally designed for jets. So says the gov office that Decides and categorizes that stuff. I told them it was a bad engine for display only. He Didn't care. But try Bill On Nov 24, 2012, at 2:17 AM, Jean de Roubin <_delfin29@me.com_ (mailto:delfin29@me.com) > wrote: For export import licences, taxe in consideration that the L-29 engine was also built to be set on a truck for wiping out fog from runways ! More than 900 were built for that. I have imported an engine for my L29, in France, not as an engine for =E0 former military plane, but as an apparatus for putting out fog. No import licence ! Jean de ROUBIN Le 23 nov. 2012 =E0 17:47, Paul Hathaway <_paulhath@gmail.com_ (mailto:paulhath@gmail.com) > a =E9crit : On that note...my completely stripped airframe with low time engine is available for sale. $18K takes the whole lot. All assemblies are on dollie s or cradles in Central MA ready for shipment. Perfect Reno racer project or just part it out at a profit. Cheers Paul On Nov 23, 2012 12:14 PM, <_SD737@aol.com_ (mailto:SD737@aol.com) > wrote: Hi Bill, Yep, not only on exporting these engines, but the same deal whether it be importing/exporting. AND the EPA now has gotten involved with the Class o f the engine and want to levy a stiff use fee/penalty for these engines. A BIG surprise as you say thanks to our president! Scott In a message dated 11/23/2012 6:39:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, _czech6@mesanetworks.net_ (mailto:czech6@mesanetworks.net) writes: For what it's worth; I'll just throw this out there, thanks to our President, ALL former military "Stuff", engines, require an Export license/permit. I sold an engine to Australia, 1 year ago, it was going to cost over $3500 for the license. Just for one engine. Trust me, I tried to get around that for months. I even asked an exporter who had a license and that didn't work. Bill On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:56 PM, "Frank D" <_tr.9@westnet.com.au_ (mailto:tr.9@westnet.com.au) > wrote: Ok thanks Scott. I'll try but I often have no luck sending PM's to the USA .. I'll send right after this so if nothing arrives please let me know. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: _SD737@aol.com_ (mailto:SD737@aol.com) Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe Hi Frank, I sold my L-29 because I could see the fuel prices in the future increasing to a financially unsustainable level where the prices would nev er be back to a point that would make it viable to fly the L-29. At the same time, I also had access to two different L-39's to fly as much as I wanted. Jus t add fuel...., so there was little sense in keeping my L-29. If I was going to burn 180 gallons an hour +/-, the L-39 was a lot more fun to fly,, but still the expense of the fuel was too high, so I backed o ff of flying those. Eventually one L-39 was sold. The other L-39 was owned by a good friend of mine and I was able to facilitate this L-39 being move d to down to California, so another L-29 buddy, Pete, could have the benefit of flying an L-39 while at the same time helping the owner. So, now the only time I fly a jet is for my job with the airlines. I've down sized to a Lancair 360 and a J-3 Cub and so I can fly all year with those two aircraft and not burn as much as one I would in an hour in the L-29/L-39. :-) As far as your other question about parts and M701 overhauled zero time engines, go ahead and email me off list at _SD737@aol.com_ (mailto:SD737@aol.com) Thanks, Scott In a message dated 11/22/2012 6:37:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _tr.9@westnet.com.au_ (mailto:tr.9@westnet.com.au) writes: Scott, Do you have any other stuff coming in? Did you end up keeping your -29 after the start of the '08/'09 fuel crisis? Frank Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: _SD737@aol.com_ (mailto:SD737@aol.com) Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:44 AM Subject: Re: L29-List: Re: L-29 spare parts Czech Republic, Europe Hi Jon, You mentioned you were looking for parts and a overhauled M701 engine. I have a 40' container of factory overhauled zero time M701-500engines with log books, tail pipes and nozzles coming into port on the West Coast USA next week. Contact me off list Scott _SD737@aol.com_ (mailto:SD737@aol.com) In a message dated 11/22/2012 11:10:30 A.M. 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