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    Time: 10:43:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: L29-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 05/25/13
    From: delfin29@me.com
    The sequence for ejection is : 1/ fire of the ejection cartridge 2/ connecting the oxygen on the emergency bottle (flat, between the back of the pilot and the parachute) 3/ some seconds later, automatic opening of the harness by the mean of a time/barometric russian device KAP-3 4/ the parachute will be automatically opened by the way of an other KAP-3. Normal setting should be : time immediate if under 12 500 ft. 12 500 ft if ejection higher than 12 500 ft. It is a good idea to have parachutes opened and pack once a year. Same for KAP-3 (2 by seat, one on the right side of the seat, the second inside the parachute) shoud be working once a year, and be rearmed (very easy to do, but time and altitude is to be set). My parachutes are with square canopy. This KAP-3 device was originally used for parachutists. It was in use in many army, East block, French army, etc. If everything is working, leaving the plane without ejection will open the parachute immediatly if under 12 500 ft, so, if you want to leave the plane without ejection, you have to desarm parachute KAP-3 by deconnecting the strap attach on the seat arm, on the left. Jean de Roubin Le 26 mai 2013 09:02, L29-List Digest Server a crit : > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete L29-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the L29-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 13-05-25&Archive=L29 > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 13-05-25&Archive=L29 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > L29-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 05/25/13: 13 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 09:19 AM - Parachute (delfin) > 2. 09:25 AM - Re: Parachute (Gregory) > 3. 09:33 AM - Re: Parachute (delfin) > 4. 10:15 AM - Re: Fuel Filter Assy for M701 (John Cabrera) > 5. 12:26 PM - Re: Parachute (Jorgen Nielsen) > 6. 12:36 PM - Re: Parachute (ROBERT SCHWARTZ) > 7. 12:45 PM - L-29 listed on eBay (Paul Hathaway) > 8. 12:58 PM - Re: L-29 listed on eBay (Frank Deeth) > 9. 01:00 PM - Re: Parachute (Frank Deeth) > 10. 03:06 PM - Re: Parachute (ROBERT SCHWARTZ) > 11. 04:17 PM - Re: Parachute (Bill Geipel) > 12. 05:35 PM - Re: Parachute (SD737@aol.com) > 13. 05:49 PM - Re: Parachute (Gregory) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:19:43 AM PST US > From: delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> > Subject: L29-List: Parachute > > =0A=0A-I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. > - The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian a > ircraft used the S-3.- Can someone confirm that for me? =0A=0AThese are n > ot normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open th > e chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister.-- I am loo > king at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's.- I need to have these f > unctions available.-- Choices are to have these features added to a USA > strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a ma > terial strength- test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996. > =0AI am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob=0A > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:25:35 AM PST US > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > From: Gregory <colyergreg@aol.com> > > I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of thos > e options > > > Gregory Colyer > www.AceMakerAirshows.com > 415-531-0970 > Join us on Facebook > www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows > > On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The R > omanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft us > ed the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me? >> >> These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to a > uto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I a > m looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these > functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA st > rong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a materi > al strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996. >> I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob >> >> > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== >> > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:33:27 AM PST US > From: delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > =0A=0A-thanks Greg=0A=0AIt has turned into a very complicated issue.- I > f you are going to have hot seats you need the auto inflate option as well > as the emergency oxygen.--- I prefer to maintain the Russian harness > system that I am familiar with. The only choice may be to have these featur > es custom added to a USA made chute.-- I have these PK-29 chutes that a > ppear in great condition and i was hoping- to get some use before I had t > o spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concern is safety of course =0A=0A > =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gregory <colyergreg@aol.com> > =0ATo: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Saturday, > May 25, 2013 11:25 AM=0ASubject: Re: L29-List: Parachute=0A =0A=0A=0AI'm n > ot sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of those op > tions=0A=0A=0A=0AGregory Colyer=0Awww.AceMakerAirshows.com-=0A415-531-097 > 0=0AJoin us on Facebook-=0Awww.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows=0A=0AOn May > 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0A=0A>=0A> > -I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system.- Th > e Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraf > t used the S-3.- Can someone confirm that for me? =0A>=0A>These are not n > ormal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open the ch > ute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister.-- I am looking > at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's.- I need to have these funct > ions available.-- Choices are to have these features added to a USA str > ong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a materi > al strength- test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996. =0A >> I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob=0A>=0A>== > ========0A//www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List=0A== > ========0Acs.com=0A============= > ======================0Amatronics > .com/contribution=0A================= > ==== > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:15:37 AM PST US > From: John Cabrera <propblast@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: L29-List: Fuel Filter Assy for M701 > > Ok, > > Count me in for at least 5 more. > > > John Cabrera > > > On May 23, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Jon S wrote: > >> I'll do a dozen if that helps. >> >> Jon >> >> On May 23, 2013 9:22 PM, <SD737@aol.com> wrote: >> Hey Bob, >> >> They're all yours at $45 each... :-) >> >> In a message dated 5/23/2013 4:32:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > anthony.royal@volvo.com writes: >> Hi Jorgen, >> >> Thanks! That gets us to 45 filters. If John and Jon could split 5 more > between them, we would have the 50 filters Bob needs to give us the $45 > ea price. >> >> How about it guys? >> >> >> >> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jorgen Nielsen >> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:35 PM >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: L29-List: Fuel Filter Assy for M701 >> >> >> >> hi folks >> >> >> >> Bob, can you ship directly to sa from czech or perhaps to a friend in > uk? if so, i will take 10. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Jorgen >> >> >> >> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Royal Tony >> Sent: 23 May 2013 19:54 >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: L29-List: Fuel Filter Assy for M701 >> >> >> >> Only got commitments for 30-35 filters to date. Can you work with > that? >> >> >> >> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT > SCHWARTZ >> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:09 PM >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: L29-List: Fuel Filter Assy for M701 >> >> >> >> I will be in Czech republic on June 8 for the Kbely museum night . > Lets try to get a total for the order >> >> >> >> bob >> >> >> >> ============ >> >> 29-List Email Forum - >> >>> >> >> :p> >> >> /o:p> >> >> tor?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> >> ============ >> >> bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> >> :p> >> >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> >> ============ >> >> bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - >> >> e> bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> >> bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> ============ >> >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> http://forums.matronics.com >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> ============ >> 29-List Email Forum - >>> >> :p> >> /o:p> >> tor?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> ============ >> bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> :p> >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> ============ >> bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - >> e> bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ============ >> >> >> >> > ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/ > Navigator?L29-List >> s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com >> > p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:26:18 PM PST US > From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> > Subject: RE: L29-List: Parachute > > What altitudes do you fly at? > > > I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my > aircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around > 10-12k feet. > > > Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, > without the oxygen. > > > Regards > > Jorgen > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of delfin > Sent: 25 May 2013 18:33 > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > > thanks Greg > > It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot > seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I > prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The > only choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. > I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping > to get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate > concern is safety of course > > _____ > > From: Gregory <colyergreg@aol.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > > I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of > those options > > > Gregory Colyer > > www.AceMakerAirshows.com <http://www.acemakerairshows.com/> > > 415-531-0970 > > Join us on Facebook > > www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows > > > On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The > Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft > used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me? > > These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to > auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I > am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have > these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a > USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a > material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996. > I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob > > > ======== > //www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List > ======== > cs.com > ================================= > matronics.com/contribution > ======== > > > f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/et > <http://www.matronics.com/et=%22_blank> "_blank" > href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics-> > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> > > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> - The L29-List Email > Forum - > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, > FAQ, > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div > %3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpr > e%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> --> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:36:57 PM PST US > From: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@att.net> > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > I don't know how to get the Russian/Czech chutes certified compliant > with the FAA here. > > > From: Jorgen Nielsen > To: l29-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:25 PM > Subject: RE: L29-List: Parachute > > > What altitudes do you fly at? > > > > I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does > my aircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at > around 10-12k feet. > > > > Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they > are, without the oxygen. > > > > Regards > > Jorgen > > > > From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of delfin > Sent: 25 May 2013 18:33 > To: l29-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > > > > > thanks Greg > > It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have > hot seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency > oxygen. I prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am > familiar with. The only choice may be to have these features custom > added to a USA made chute. I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in > great condition and i was hoping to get some use before I had to spend > the big bucks . But the ultimate concern is safety of course > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > From: Gregory <colyergreg@aol.com> > To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > > > I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both > of those options > > > Gregory Colyer > > www.AceMakerAirshows.com > > 415-531-0970 > > Join us on Facebook > > www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows > > > On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. > The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian > aircraft used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me? > > These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric > device to auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen > canister. I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I > need to have these functions available. Choices are to have these > features added to a USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes > (very pricy) or have a material strength test and try to utilize these > original chutes from 1996. > I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob > > > ==========//www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List= > ========cs.com============== > ====================matronics.com > /contribution========== > f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.co > m/et="_blank" > href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics-> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhtt > p://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:45:24 PM PST US > Subject: L29-List: L-29 listed on eBay > From: Paul Hathaway <paulhath@gmail.com> > > In case anyone is interested my Delfin project is currently listed on eBay. > Low reserve. > > Best regards > > Paul > > URL: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=321129310168 > > Alt URL: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aero-L-29C-Delfin-Jet-Warbird-Project-/321129310168 > On May 25, 2013 3:37 PM, "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@att.net> wrote: > > ** > *I don't know how to get the Russian/Czech chutes certified compliant with > the FAA here. * > ** > ** > *From:* Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> > > *To:* l29-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:25 PM > *Subject:* RE: L29-List: Parachute > > What altitudes do you fly at? **** > > ** ** > > I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my > aircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around > 10-12k feet.**** > > ** ** > > Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, > without the oxygen. **** > > ** ** > > Regards**** > > Jorgen**** > > ** ** > > *From:* owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *delfin > *Sent:* 25 May 2013 18:33 > *To:* l29-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: L29-List: Parachute**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > thanks Greg > > It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot > seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. > I prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. > The only choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made > chute. I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was > hoping to get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the > ultimate concern is safety of course **** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Gregory <colyergreg@aol.com> > *To:* "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM > *Subject:* Re: L29-List: Parachute**** > > ** ** > > I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of > those options > > **** > > Gregory Colyer**** > > www.AceMakerAirshows.com <http://www.acemakerairshows.com/> **** > > 415-531-0970**** > > Join us on Facebook **** > > www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows**** > > > On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> wrote:**** > > ** ** > > I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The > Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft > used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me? > > These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to > auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. > I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have > these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a > USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a > material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996. > I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob**** > > * * > > * * > > *==========* > > *//www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List* > > *==========* > > *cs.com* > > *===================================* > > *matronics.com/contribution* > > *==========* > > * * > > * * > > *f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/et="_blank" > href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics-> > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000>* > > * <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000>* > > * <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000>* > > * <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000>* > > * <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000>* > > * <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000>* > > * <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000>* > > * <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000>* > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000> > <http://www.matronics.co======%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre%3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%3c/div%3e%20%20%3c/div%3e%3cpre%3e%3cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=000000>* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:58:26 PM PST US > Subject: Re: L29-List: L-29 listed on eBay > From: Frank Deeth <tr.9@westnet.com.au> > > Wish I could "help" you out Paul! I guess keeping it and getting back to it l > ater is not an option? > > Frank > Oz > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 26, 2013, at 5:45 AM, Paul Hathaway <paulhath@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In case anyone is interested my Delfin project is currently listed on eBay > . Low reserve. >> >> Best regards >> >> Paul >> >> URL: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=321129310168 >> >> Alt URL: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aero-L-29C-Delfin-Jet-Warbird-Project-/32 > 1129310168 >> >> On May 25, 2013 3:37 PM, "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@att.net> wrote > : >> I don't know how to get the Russian/Czech chutes certified compliant with > the FAA here. >> >> >> From: Jorgen Nielsen >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:25 PM >> Subject: RE: L29-List: Parachute >> >> What altitudes do you fly at? >> >> >> >> I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my a > ircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around 10-1 > 2k feet. >> >> >> >> Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, wi > thout the oxygen. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Jorgen >> >> >> >> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@ma > tronics.com] On Behalf Of delfin >> Sent: 25 May 2013 18:33 >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute >> >> >> >> >> >> thanks Greg >> >> It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot > seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I > prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The o > nly choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. > I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping t > o get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concer > n is safety of course >> >> From: Gregory <colyergreg@aol.com> >> To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM >> Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute >> >> >> >> I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of th > ose options >> >> >> Gregory Colyer >> >> www.AceMakerAirshows.com >> >> 415-531-0970 >> >> Join us on Facebook >> >> www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows >> >> >> On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The R > omanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft us > ed the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me? >> >> These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to a > uto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I a > m looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these > functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA st > rong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a materi > al strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996. >> I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob >> >> >> >> ======== >> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> ======== >> cs.com >> ======================== > ======== >> matronics.com/contribution >> ======== >> >> >> f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com > /et="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics > -> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> http://forums.matronics.com >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics. > com/Navigator?L29-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >> >> >> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== >> > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:00:08 PM PST US > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > From: Frank Deeth <tr.9@westnet.com.au> > > Just whack a couple of experimental stickers on them Bob! ;>)) > > Frank > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 26, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@att.net> wro > te: > >> I don't know how to get the Russian/Czech chutes certified compliant with > the FAA here. >> >> >> From: Jorgen Nielsen >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:25 PM >> Subject: RE: L29-List: Parachute >> >> What altitudes do you fly at? >> >> I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my a > ircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around 10-1 > 2k feet. >> >> Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, wi > thout the oxygen. >> >> Regards >> Jorgen >> >> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@ma > tronics.com] On Behalf Of delfin >> Sent: 25 May 2013 18:33 >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute >> >> >> thanks Greg >> >> It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot > seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I > prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The o > nly choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. > I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping t > o get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concer > n is safety of course >> >> From: Gregory <colyergreg@aol.com> >> To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM >> Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute >> >> I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of th > ose options >> >> >> Gregory Colyer >> www.AceMakerAirshows.com >> 415-531-0970 >> Join us on Facebook >> www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows >> >> On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The R > omanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft us > ed the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me? >> >> These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to a > uto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I a > m looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these > functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a U > SA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a m > aterial strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996. > >> I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob >> >> >> ======== >> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> ======== >> cs.com >> ======================== > ======== >> matronics.com/contribution >> ======== >> >> >> f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com > /et="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics > -> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> http://forums.matronics.com >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics. > com/Navigator?L29-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >> >> > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== >> > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:06:24 PM PST US > From: "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@att.net> > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > I had an interesting point brought up. If the aircraft is experimental > /exhibition (l-29) why would the foreign ejection seat specific chutes > not be acceptable as long as they complied with military standards and > were repacked every 6 months. Im not sure how to reseach this . These > are not for jumping, but only for emergency egress with the seat. any > ideas ? > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:17:23 PM PST US > From: Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > Unless they are TSO'd I don't think anyone can legally pack them? > > Bill > > On May 25, 2013, at 17:05, "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany@att.net> wrote > : > >> I had an interesting point brought up. If the aircraft is experimental /ex > hibition (l-29) why would the foreign ejection seat specific chutes not be a > cceptable as long as they complied with military standards and were repacked > every 6 months. Im not sure how to reseach this . These are not for jump > ing, but only for emergency egress with the seat. any ideas ? >> >> > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== >> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:35:12 PM PST US > From: SD737@aol.com > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > > Stay seated and FLY THE PLANE.... It would be like putting ejection seats > in a Cherockee 6. > > > I have a set of stock L-29 parachutes I'll make someone a good deal on. > > _SD737@aol.com_ (mailto:SD737@aol.com) > > > In a message dated 5/25/2013 12:37:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > schwartzcompany@att.net writes: > > I don't know how to get the Russian/Czech chutes certified compliant with > the FAA here. > > > From: _Jorgen Nielsen_ (mailto:jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za) > > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:25 PM > Subject: RE: L29-List: Parachute > > > What altitudes do you fly at? > I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my > aircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around > 10-12k feet. > Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, > without the oxygen. > > Regards > Jorgen > > > From: _owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com_ > (mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com) [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > delfin > Sent: 25 May 2013 18:33 > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > > thanks Greg > > It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot > seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. > I prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. > The only choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made > chute. I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was > hoping to get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the > ultimate concern is safety of course > > > ____________________________________ > > From: Gregory <_colyergreg@aol.com_ (mailto:colyergreg@aol.com) > > <_l29-list@matronics.com_ (mailto:l29-list@matronics.com) > > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > > > I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of > those options > > > Gregory Colyer > > _www.AceMakerAirshows.com_ (http://www.acemakerairshows.com/) > > 415-531-0970 > > Join us on Facebook > > _www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows_ > (http://www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows) > > > On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <_l29delfin@yahoo.com_ > (mailto:l29delfin@yahoo.com) > wrote: > > > I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The > Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft > used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me? > > These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to > auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. > I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have > these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a > USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a > material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from > 1996. > I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob > > > ======== > //www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List > ======== > cs.com > ================================= > matronics.com/contribution > ======== > > > f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/et > "_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/">_http://forums.matronics-_ > (http://forums.matronics-/) > > (http://www.matronics.co======</font></b></pre></div></div><br><br></div>%20</div>%20</div>%20%20</div><pre><b><font%20size=2 > %20color=000000) > > (http://www.matronics.co======</font></b></pre></div></div><br><br></div>%20</div>%20</div>%20%20</div><pre><b><font%20size=2%20color=000000) > > (http://www.matronics.co======</font></b></pre></div></div><br><br></div>%20</div>%20</div>%20%20</div><pre><b><font%20size=2%20color=000000) > > (http://www.matronics.co======</font></b></pre></div></div><br><br></div>%20</div>%20</div>%20%20</div><pre><b><font%20size=2%20color=000000) > > (http://www.matronics.co======</font></b></pre></div></div><br><br></div>%20</div>%20</div>%20%20</div><pre><b><font%20size=2%20color=000000) > > (http://www.matronics.co======</font></b></pre></div></div><br><br></div>%20</div>%20</div>%20%20</div><pre><b><font%20size=2%20color=000000) > > (http://www.matronics.co======</font></b></pre></div></div><br><br></div>%20</div>%20</div>%20%20</div><pre><b><font%20size=2%20color=000000) > > (http://www.matronics.co======</font></b></pre></div></div><br><br></div>%20</div>%20</div>%20%20</div><pre><b><font%20size=2%20color=000000) > _http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List_ > (http://www.matronics.co======</font></b></pre></div></div><br><br></div>%20</div>%20</div>%20%20</div><pr > e><b><font%20size=2%20color=000000) > > > http://forums.matronics.com > > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:49:44 PM PST US > Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute > From: Gregory <colyergreg@aol.com> > > I agree... > > > Gregory Colyer > www.AceMakerAirshows.com > 415-531-0970 > Join us on Facebook > www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows > > On May 25, 2013, at 4:34 PM, SD737@aol.com wrote: > >> Stay seated and FLY THE PLANE.... It would be like putting ejection seats > in a Cherockee 6. >> >> I have a set of stock L-29 parachutes I'll make someone a good deal on. >> >> SD737@aol.com >> >> In a message dated 5/25/2013 12:37:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, schwartz > company@att.net writes: >> I don't know how to get the Russian/Czech chutes certified compliant with > the FAA here. >> >> >> From: Jorgen Nielsen >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:25 PM >> Subject: RE: L29-List: Parachute >> >> What altitudes do you fly at? >> >> >> >> I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my a > ircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around 10-1 > 2k feet. >> >> >> >> Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, wi > thout the oxygen. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Jorgen >> >> >> >> From: owner-l29-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server@ma > tronics.com] On Behalf Of delfin >> Sent: 25 May 2013 18:33 >> To: l29-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute >> >> >> >> >> >> thanks Greg >> >> It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot > seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I > prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The o > nly choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. > I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping t > o get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concer > n is safety of course >> >> From: Gregory <colyergreg@aol.com> >> To: "l29-list@matronics.com" <l29-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM >> Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute >> >> >> >> I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of th > ose options >> >> >> Gregory Colyer >> >> www.AceMakerAirshows.com >> >> 415-531-0970 >> >> Join us on Facebook >> >> www.facebook.com/AceMakerAirshows >> >> >> On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The R > omanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft us > ed the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me? >> >> These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to a > uto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I a > m looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these > functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA st > rong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a materi > al strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996. >> I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob >> >> >> >> ======== >> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List >> ======== >> cs.com >> ======== >> matronics.com/contribution >> ======== >> >> >> f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List">http://www.matronics.com > /et="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics > -> >> > > > > > > > >




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