---------------------------------------------------------- L29-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/13/14: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:37 AM - Tires (fougapilot) 2. 06:49 AM - Re: Tires..Contact Pete (sd737@aol.com) 3. 10:43 AM - Re: Tires (Jon Boede) 4. 12:23 PM - Fuel sender (Jorgen Nielsen) 5. 01:02 PM - Re: Fuel sender (delfin29@me.com) 6. 01:36 PM - Re: Fuel sender (Frank Deeth) 7. 04:17 PM - Re: Fuel sender (sd737@aol.com) 8. 09:43 PM - Re: Tires..Contact Pete (John Cabrera) 9. 11:30 PM - Re: Fuel sender (Jorgen Nielsen) 10. 11:48 PM - Re: Fuel sender (Jorgen Nielsen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:18 AM PST US Subject: L29-List: Tires From: "fougapilot" Fellow Delphin enthusiasts, Any one know where we can get tires? D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416850#416850 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: L29-List: Tires..Contact Pete From: sd737@aol.com I hear there is a guy named Pete who lives in Northern CA that has the corn er on L-29 spare parts, tires, canopies, actuators, start boxes, etc..., an d also the real hard to find stuff like "Engine Altitude/baromentric Compen sators" I also hear that If you're real nice to him that he will give you what you need at no charge! :-) -----Original Message----- From: fougapilot Sent: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:37 am Subject: L29-List: Tires Fellow Delphin enthusiasts, Any one know where we can get tires? D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416850#416850 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:26 AM PST US From: Jon Boede Subject: RE: L29-List: Tires The Cold War Air Museum has a huge order of tires coming soon. They fit ou r Mi-2 helicopters as well. Contact me off-list. We're still calculating our cost but it should be qui te reasonable. > Subject: L29-List: Tires > From: fougapilot@hotmail.com > Date: Mon=2C 13 Jan 2014 05:37:04 -0800 > To: l29-list@matronics.com > > > Fellow Delphin enthusiasts=2C > > Any one know where we can get tires? > > D > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416850#416850 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:11 PM PST US From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: L29-List: Fuel sender Hi All Couple months back I had my fuel sensor fail on me, really keen to get a new one. Anyone have a lead on one? While at this post, perhaps worthwhile to give other L29 drivers a heads-up... Was flying on one of those magic days, lots of puffy cumulous around, bases around 3000ft AGL, tops around 10-15000AGL. Had planned a general aerobatic sortie, but ended up playing in the clouds...dive down to base of little puffy cloud, hard pull to the vertical, fly up the face, roll, pull inverted over the cloud, look for next "target", aim, pull round the clouds, wow, tunnel ahead, fly through tunnel, aim for next, dead end, penetrate, etc etc. Absolutely awesome flight. Anyway, sanity prevailed with usual regular system checks, and at some point I was thinking I would have to soon call it a day due to fuel when I realised the gauge seemed more or less the same place as previous check. Still had over enough fuel on the gauge but it did not feel right so throttled right back for best range, aimed straight for homebase, called ATC early asking for priority, then still with +-350l indicated my 200l light came on, and the circuit was busy with aircraft orbiting waiting for entry clearance together with a bunch of aircraft in the circuit. ATC were great though and got me through, long story short, on shutdown at hangar I visually inspected the tank, there was a coupe centimetres of fuel at bottom. She would have flamed out I guess a couple minutes later. Not good. So, just a heads up that the gauges can fail, and that despite their reliability one should as always not only keep an eye on qty, but rate of consumption etc. So, I need a new sender unit, anyone have one for sale? Jorgen South Africa ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:02:11 PM PST US From: delfin29@me.com Subject: Re: L29-List: Fuel sender Interesting. In any case, the best fuel gauge is the clock ! Jean de Roubin Le 13 janv. 2014 =E0 20:22, Jorgen Nielsen a =E9crit : > Hi All > > Couple months back I had my fuel sensor fail on me, really keen to get a new one. Anyone have a lead on one? > > While at this post, perhaps worthwhile to give other L29 drivers a heads-up... > > Was flying on one of those magic days, lots of puffy cumulous around, bases around 3000ft AGL, tops around 10-15000AGL. Had planned a general aerobatic sortie, but ended up playing in the clouds...dive down to base of little puffy cloud, hard pull to the vertical, fly up the face, roll, pull inverted over the cloud, look for next =93target=94, aim, pull round the clouds, wow, tunnel ahead, fly through tunnel, aim for next, dead end, penetrate, etc etc. Absolutely awesome flight. > > Anyway, sanity prevailed with usual regular system checks, and at some point I was thinking I would have to soon call it a day due to fuel when I realised the gauge seemed more or less the same place as previous check. Still had over enough fuel on the gauge but it did not feel right so throttled right back for best range, aimed straight for homebase, called ATC early asking for priority, then still with +-350l indicated my 200l light came on, and the circuit was busy with aircraft orbiting waiting for entry clearance together with a bunch of aircraft in the circuit. ATC were great though and got me through, long story short, on shutdown at hangar I visually inspected the tank, there was a coupe centimetres of fuel at bottom. She would have flamed out I guess a couple minutes later. > > Not good. > > So, just a heads up that the gauges can fail, and that despite their reliability one should as always not only keep an eye on qty, but rate of consumption etc. > > So, I need a new sender unit, anyone have one for sale? > > Jorgen > South Africa > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:58 PM PST US From: Frank Deeth Subject: Re: L29-List: Fuel sender Sounds like a lot of fun Jorgen! Cloud busting! The sport of Kings for sure! Frank Oz Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Jan 2014, at 7:22 am, "Jorgen Nielsen" w rote: > > Hi All > > Couple months back I had my fuel sensor fail on me, really keen to get a n ew one. Anyone have a lead on one? > > While at this post, perhaps worthwhile to give other L29 drivers a heads-u p... > > Was flying on one of those magic days, lots of puffy cumulous around, base s around 3000ft AGL, tops around 10-15000AGL. Had planned a general aerobat ic sortie, but ended up playing in the clouds...dive down to base of little p uffy cloud, hard pull to the vertical, fly up the face, roll, pull inverted o ver the cloud, look for next =9Ctarget=9D, aim, pull round the c louds, wow, tunnel ahead, fly through tunnel, aim for next, dead end, penetr ate, etc etc. Absolutely awesome flight. > > Anyway, sanity prevailed with usual regular system checks, and at some poi nt I was thinking I would have to soon call it a day due to fuel when I real ised the gauge seemed more or less the same place as previous check. Still h ad over enough fuel on the gauge but it did not feel right so throttled righ t back for best range, aimed straight for homebase, called ATC early asking f or priority, then still with +-350l indicated my 200l light came on, and th e circuit was busy with aircraft orbiting waiting for entry clearance togeth er with a bunch of aircraft in the circuit. ATC were great though and got m e through, long story short, on shutdown at hangar I visually inspected the t ank, there was a coupe centimetres of fuel at bottom. She would have flamed out I guess a couple minutes later. > > Not good. > > So, just a heads up that the gauges can fail, and that despite their relia bility one should as always not only keep an eye on qty, but rate of consump tion etc. > > So, I need a new sender unit, anyone have one for sale? > > Jorgen > South Africa > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: L29-List: Fuel sender From: sd737@aol.com Contact Pete Taylor on the L-29 list. He has the L-29 parts market cornere d. Lost of spare parts and he's very reasonable on price. Sometimes he will send a part that is very hard to find and then never coll ect any money for the part. He's a very good guy!! And I'm not being sarcastic. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Deeth Sent: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:37 pm Subject: Re: L29-List: Fuel sender Sounds like a lot of fun Jorgen! Cloud busting! The sport of Kings for sure ! Frank Oz Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jan 2014, at 7:22 am, "Jorgen Nielsen" wr ote: Hi All Couple months back I had my fuel sensor fail on me, really keen to get a ne w one. Anyone have a lead on one? While at this post, perhaps worthwhile to give other L29 drivers a heads-up ... Was flying on one of those magic days, lots of puffy cumulous around, bases around 3000ft AGL, tops around 10-15000AGL. Had planned a general aerobat ic sortie, but ended up playing in the clouds...dive down to base of little puffy cloud, hard pull to the vertical, fly up the face, roll, pull invert ed over the cloud, look for next =9Ctarget=9D, aim, pull round the clouds, wow, tunnel ahead, fly through tunnel, aim for next, dead end, penetrate, etc etc. Absolutely awesome flight. Anyway, sanity prevailed with usual regular system checks, and at some poin t I was thinking I would have to soon call it a day due to fuel when I real ised the gauge seemed more or less the same place as previous check. Still had over enough fuel on the gauge but it did not feel right so throttled r ight back for best range, aimed straight for homebase, called ATC early ask ing for priority, then still with +-350l indicated my 200l light came on, and the circuit was busy with aircraft orbiting waiting for entry clearance together with a bunch of aircraft in the circuit. ATC were great though a nd got me through, long story short, on shutdown at hangar I visually inspe cted the tank, there was a coupe centimetres of fuel at bottom. She would have flamed out I guess a couple minutes later. Not good. So, just a heads up that the gauges can fail, and that despite their relia bility one should as always not only keep an eye on qty, but rate of consum ption etc. So, I need a new sender unit, anyone have one for sale? 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They are made by Stomil, a Polish company, and I bought a set for my airplane 2 years ago. They have worked out very well and seem to be wearing very well. Desser list them online for $395 new. John Cabrera BTW - Does anyone out there have a spare air mix valve. This is the valve that mixes the hot and cold air and controls the cabin temp. Mine is stuck on hot. I would like a spare one on hand before try taking the one I have apart. Thanks. On Jan 13, 2014, at 6:49 AM, sd737@aol.com wrote: > I hear there is a guy named Pete who lives in Northern CA that has the corner on L-29 spare parts, tires, canopies, actuators, start boxes, etc..., and also the real hard to find stuff like "Engine Altitude/baromentric Compensators" > I also hear that If you're real nice to him that he will give you what you need at no charge! :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fougapilot > To: l29-list > Sent: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:37 am > Subject: L29-List: Tires > > > Fellow Delphin enthusiasts, > > Any one know where we can get tires? > > D > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416850#416850 > > > > > > > > et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:25 PM PST US From: Jorgen Nielsen Subject: Re: L29-List: Fuel sender Yes Jean agree. I guess I became too trusting on my L29 over the years. Ev ery time I fill up, I note the quantity indicated in the cockpit before fill ing up, then check how many litres it takes to fill the tank and the gauge i s always very accurate. And of course when flying you see the gauge moving! I never heard of it getting stuck before. Out of interest , we removed the sender unit and plugged it back in. The se nder works mechanically but sends the wrong electrical signal. Fully extend ed it shows the tank is full, as you move it the level indicated on the gaug e moves down correctly but only to a certain point, at around 350 litres the gauge stops moving. Further movement does result in the 200litre light on t he annunciator coming on. Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jan 2014, at 23:01, delfin29@me.com wrote: > > Interesting. > In any case, the best fuel gauge is the clock ! > Jean de Roubin >> Le 13 janv. 2014 =C3- 20:22, Jorgen Nielsen a =C3=A9crit : >> >> Hi All >> >> Couple months back I had my fuel sensor fail on me, really keen to get a n ew one. Anyone have a lead on one? >> >> While at this post, perhaps worthwhile to give other L29 drivers a heads- up... >> >> Was flying on one of those magic days, lots of puffy cumulous around, bas es around 3000ft AGL, tops around 10-15000AGL. Had planned a general aeroba tic sortie, but ended up playing in the clouds...dive down to base of little puffy cloud, hard pull to the vertical, fly up the face, roll, pull inverte d over the cloud, look for next =9Ctarget=9D, aim, pull round th e clouds, wow, tunnel ahead, fly through tunnel, aim for next, dead end, pen etrate, etc etc. Absolutely awesome flight. >> >> Anyway, sanity prevailed with usual regular system checks, and at some po int I was thinking I would have to soon call it a day due to fuel when I rea lised the gauge seemed more or less the same place as previous check. Still had over enough fuel on the gauge but it did not feel right so throttled ri ght back for best range, aimed straight for homebase, called ATC early askin g for priority, then still with +-350l indicated my 200l light came on, and the circuit was busy with aircraft orbiting waiting for entry clearance tog ether with a bunch of aircraft in the circuit. ATC were great though and go t me through, long story short, on shutdown at hangar I visually inspected t he tank, there was a coupe centimetres of fuel at bottom. She would have fl amed out I guess a couple minutes later. >> >> Not good. >> >> So, just a heads up that the gauges can fail, and that despite their reli ability one should as always not only keep an eye on qty, but rate of consum ption etc. >> >> So, I need a new sender unit, anyone have one for sale? >> >> Jorgen >> South Africa >> >> >> style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?L29-List >> purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://forums.matronics.com >> style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://www.matronics .com/contribution >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:48:48 PM PST US From: Jorgen Nielsen Subject: Re: L29-List: Fuel sender Yes! It never gets old, I just love it. Also very cool when you inverted o ver a cloud and see the round rainbow on the cloud from your shadow above / b elow you. I tried it in other aerobatic prop planes but its not the same, have to do i t in a jet. You need the speed and vertical penetration. I can only think h ow great it must be with more performance. Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jan 2014, at 23:36, Frank Deeth wrote: > > Sounds like a lot of fun Jorgen! Cloud busting! The sport of Kings for sur e! > > Frank > Oz > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Jan 2014, at 7:22 am, "Jorgen Nielsen" w rote: >> >> Hi All >> >> Couple months back I had my fuel sensor fail on me, really keen to get a n ew one. Anyone have a lead on one? >> >> While at this post, perhaps worthwhile to give other L29 drivers a heads- up... >> >> Was flying on one of those magic days, lots of puffy cumulous around, bas es around 3000ft AGL, tops around 10-15000AGL. Had planned a general aeroba tic sortie, but ended up playing in the clouds...dive down to base of little puffy cloud, hard pull to the vertical, fly up the face, roll, pull inverte d over the cloud, look for next =9Ctarget=9D, aim, pull round th e clouds, wow, tunnel ahead, fly through tunnel, aim for next, dead end, pen etrate, etc etc. Absolutely awesome flight. >> >> Anyway, sanity prevailed with usual regular system checks, and at some po int I was thinking I would have to soon call it a day due to fuel when I rea lised the gauge seemed more or less the same place as previous check. Still had over enough fuel on the gauge but it did not feel right so throttled ri ght back for best range, aimed straight for homebase, called ATC early askin g for priority, then still with +-350l indicated my 200l light came on, and the circuit was busy with aircraft orbiting waiting for entry clearance tog ether with a bunch of aircraft in the circuit. ATC were great though and go t me through, long story short, on shutdown at hangar I visually inspected t he tank, there was a coupe centimetres of fuel at bottom. 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