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1. 05:20 PM - Re: Video Delfin (Bill Geipel)
2. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: Center of Gravity - CG (Bill Geipel)
3. 05:37 PM - Re: Re: Center of Gravity - CG (Jon S)
4. 05:39 PM - Re: Video Delfin (delfin29@me.com)
5. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: Center of Gravity - CG (Bill Geipel)
6. 05:57 PM - Re: Video Delfin (Bill Geipel)
7. 06:58 PM - Re: Video Delfin (Frank Deeth)
8. 09:34 PM - Re: Video Delfin (delfin29@me.com)
9. 09:44 PM - Re: Video Delfin (delfin29@me.com)
10. 11:56 PM - Re: Video Delfin (Frank Deeth)
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| Subject: | Re: Video Delfin |
10 seconds? Of course the L 29 would be out of airspeed by then anyway. So t
he next 10 would have been screaming uncontrollably as you plummet towards t
he earth pulling out at the last minute thus saving the day and then telling
everybody that you planned it that way. Works for me.
Have fun
On Jan 16, 2014, at 22:42, delfin29@me.com wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_lWUAb3Qvs&feature=youtu.be
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| Subject: | Re: Center of Gravity - CG |
It does. Before I put the viper in, I removed 453 pounds and put in the 105 of
weight in the nose.
The viper weights the same but sits about 15" aft of the 501. But since I've gained
weight in my old age it still flys nice.
Bill
On Jan 17, 2014, at 0:23, Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> wrote:
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> Hi Bill
>
> Does yours not have the viper motor?
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 17 Jan 2014, at 3:28, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> 17 pounds in the tail. Steel plates.
>> Actually haven't even seen my jet since July and then only in passing.
>> Hang in there.
>> Bill
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>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 17:07, Frank Deeth <tr.9@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
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>>> There are some weights in the tail too isn't there Bill?
>>>
>>> BTW, have you had your tail section off lately?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so
I added 103 pounds in the nose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:07, delfin29@me.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you means weight in the nose, typically nothing. Maybe, if the IFF in
out, same weight as the IFF.
>>>>> I have a air compressor at place of IFF on my L29, so it have the same weight,
plus or minus.
>>>>> Jean de Roubin
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 16 janv. 2014 21:54, ershire <jonairway@gmail.com> a crit :
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> What is the typical ballast required if any in the nose?
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417032#417032
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| Subject: | Re: Center of Gravity - CG |
My jet is not slow, just overweight.
On Jan 17, 2014 8:24 PM, "Bill Geipel" <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
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> It does. Before I put the viper in, I removed 453 pounds and put in the
> 105 of weight in the nose.
> The viper weights the same but sits about 15" aft of the 501. But since
> I've gained weight in my old age it still flys nice.
>
> Bill
>
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> On Jan 17, 2014, at 0:23, Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> wrote:
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> jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> >
> > Hi Bill
> >
> > Does yours not have the viper motor?
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 17 Jan 2014, at 3:28, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> 17 pounds in the tail. Steel plates.
> >> Actually haven't even seen my jet since July and then only in passing.
> >> Hang in there.
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 17:07, Frank Deeth <tr.9@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There are some weights in the tail too isn't there Bill?
> >>>
> >>> BTW, have you had your tail section off lately?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of
> junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:07, delfin29@me.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you means weight in the nose, typically nothing. Maybe, if the
> IFF in out, same weight as the IFF.
> >>>>> I have a air compressor at place of IFF on my L29, so it have the
> same weight, plus or minus.
> >>>>> Jean de Roubin
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Le 16 janv. 2014 =E0 21:54, ershire <jonairway@gmail.com> a =E9cri
t :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the typical ballast required if any in the nose?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Read this topic online here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417032#417032
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| Subject: | Re: Video Delfin |
Out of speed ? Not at all.
Film was during an air show. Without external tanks. 1 pilot. 400 liters fue
l at start. 13 minutes flight. Speed at beginning of film is 700 km/h. 6.5 g
. Speed at end of film is 180 / 200 km/ h.
If you look at the background of the film, you will ses the plane is never o
ut of control.
Jean
> Le 17 janv. 2014 =C3- 20:22, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit
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> 10 seconds? Of course the L 29 would be out of airspeed by then anyway. So
the next 10 would have been screaming uncontrollably as you plummet towards
the earth pulling out at the last minute thus saving the day and then telli
ng everybody that you planned it that way. Works for me.
>
> Have fun
>
>
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>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 22:42, delfin29@me.com wrote:
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_lWUAb3Qvs&feature=youtu.be
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| Subject: | Re: Center of Gravity - CG |
But still fun.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 19:36, Jon S <jonairway@gmail.com> wrote:
> My jet is not slow, just overweight.
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> On Jan 17, 2014 8:24 PM, "Bill Geipel" <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It does. Before I put the viper in, I removed 453 pounds and put in the 10
5 of weight in the nose.
> The viper weights the same but sits about 15" aft of the 501. But since I'
ve gained weight in my old age it still flys nice.
>
> Bill
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> On Jan 17, 2014, at 0:23, Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> wrote
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> >
> > Hi Bill
> >
> > Does yours not have the viper motor?
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 17 Jan 2014, at 3:28, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> 17 pounds in the tail. Steel plates.
> >> Actually haven't even seen my jet since July and then only in passing.
> >> Hang in there.
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 17:07, Frank Deeth <tr.9@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There are some weights in the tail too isn't there Bill?
> >>>
> >>> BTW, have you had your tail section off lately?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of jun
k so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:07, delfin29@me.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you means weight in the nose, typically nothing. Maybe, if the IFF
in out, same weight as the IFF.
> >>>>> I have a air compressor at place of IFF on my L29, so it have the sa
me weight, plus or minus.
> >>>>> Jean de Roubin
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Le 16 janv. 2014 =C3- 21:54, ershire <jonairway@gmail.com> a =C3=A9
crit :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the typical ballast required if any in the nose?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Read this topic online here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417032#417032
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| Subject: | Re: Video Delfin |
Just having fun. However, 6.5g is not fun. At my age it hurts.
Be safe
On Jan 17, 2014, at 19:39, delfin29@me.com wrote:
> Out of speed ? Not at all.
> Film was during an air show. Without external tanks. 1 pilot. 400 liters f
uel at start. 13 minutes flight. Speed at beginning of film is 700 km/h. 6.5
g. Speed at end of film is 180 / 200 km/ h.
> If you look at the background of the film, you will ses the plane is never
out of control.
> Jean
>
> Le 17 janv. 2014 =C3- 20:22, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit
:
>
>> 10 seconds? Of course the L 29 would be out of airspeed by then anyway. S
o the next 10 would have been screaming uncontrollably as you plummet toward
s the earth pulling out at the last minute thus saving the day and then tell
ing everybody that you planned it that way. Works for me.
>>
>> Have fun
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 22:42, delfin29@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_lWUAb3Qvs&feature=youtu.be
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| Subject: | Re: Video Delfin |
Is that you Jean in the video?
Frank
Sent from my iPhone
> On 18 Jan 2014, at 12:39 pm, delfin29@me.com wrote:
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> Out of speed ? Not at all.
> Film was during an air show. Without external tanks. 1 pilot. 400 liters f
uel at start. 13 minutes flight. Speed at beginning of film is 700 km/h. 6.5
g. Speed at end of film is 180 / 200 km/ h.
> If you look at the background of the film, you will ses the plane is never
out of control.
> Jean
>
>> Le 17 janv. 2014 =C3- 20:22, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> a =C3=A9cri
t :
>>
>> 10 seconds? Of course the L 29 would be out of airspeed by then anyway. S
o the next 10 would have been screaming uncontrollably as you plummet toward
s the earth pulling out at the last minute thus saving the day and then tell
ing everybody that you planned it that way. Works for me.
>>
>> Have fun
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 22:42, delfin29@me.com wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_lWUAb3Qvs&feature=youtu.be
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Video Delfin |
Yes, it is, some years ago !
> Le 17 janv. 2014 =C3- 21:58, Frank Deeth <tr.9@westnet.com.au> a =C3=A9c
rit :
>
> Is that you Jean in the video?
>
> Frank
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 18 Jan 2014, at 12:39 pm, delfin29@me.com wrote:
>>
>> Out of speed ? Not at all.
>> Film was during an air show. Without external tanks. 1 pilot. 400 liters f
uel at start. 13 minutes flight. Speed at beginning of film is 700 km/h. 6.5
g. Speed at end of film is 180 / 200 km/ h.
>> If you look at the background of the film, you will ses the plane is neve
r out of control.
>> Jean
>>
>>> Le 17 janv. 2014 =C3- 20:22, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> a =C3=A9cr
it :
>>>
>>> 10 seconds? Of course the L 29 would be out of airspeed by then anyway. S
o the next 10 would have been screaming uncontrollably as you plummet toward
s the earth pulling out at the last minute thus saving the day and then tell
ing everybody that you planned it that way. Works for me.
>>>
>>> Have fun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 22:42, delfin29@me.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_lWUAb3Qvs&feature=youtu.be
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Video Delfin |
Of course with an anti-G. That means 5 for you. As the L29 has a high gilde r
atio, I am pretty sure that it will be the same with less G. You can try It,
Bill. Be sure to have 700 km/h before beginning 80 degrees up and check you
r speed after the roll. If It is not enough, just make again a half roll mor
e. The most difficult is to stop the roll at 360 degrees. If you look at the
video, you will see the roll is not perfect. 15 degrees are missing.
But in Air Shows, you need as small volume as possible. This explains G.
Of course, all this is for original engine, not Viper.
Does Viper support G as Wellington as M701 ?
Jean
> Le 17 janv. 2014 =C3- 21:00, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit
:
>
> Just having fun. However, 6.5g is not fun. At my age it hurts.
> Be safe
>
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>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 19:39, delfin29@me.com wrote:
>>
>> Out of speed ? Not at all.
>> Film was during an air show. Without external tanks. 1 pilot. 400 liters f
uel at start. 13 minutes flight. Speed at beginning of film is 700 km/h. 6.5
g. Speed at end of film is 180 / 200 km/ h.
>> If you look at the background of the film, you will ses the plane is neve
r out of control.
>> Jean
>>
>>> Le 17 janv. 2014 =C3- 20:22, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> a =C3=A9cr
it :
>>>
>>> 10 seconds? Of course the L 29 would be out of airspeed by then anyway. S
o the next 10 would have been screaming uncontrollably as you plummet toward
s the earth pulling out at the last minute thus saving the day and then tell
ing everybody that you planned it that way. Works for me.
>>>
>>> Have fun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 22:42, delfin29@me.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_lWUAb3Qvs&feature=youtu.be
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| Subject: | Re: Video Delfin |
Nice! I like to see more of these...keeps me enthusiastic about my aircraft!
Frank
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 18, 2014, at 4:32 PM, delfin29@me.com wrote:
> Yes, it is, some years ago !
>
> Le 17 janv. 2014 =C3- 21:58, Frank Deeth <tr.9@westnet.com.au> a =C3=A9c
rit :
>
>> Is that you Jean in the video?
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 18 Jan 2014, at 12:39 pm, delfin29@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Out of speed ? Not at all.
>>> Film was during an air show. Without external tanks. 1 pilot. 400 liters
fuel at start. 13 minutes flight. Speed at beginning of film is 700 km/h. 6
.5 g. Speed at end of film is 180 / 200 km/ h.
>>> If you look at the background of the film, you will ses the plane is nev
er out of control.
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> Le 17 janv. 2014 =C3- 20:22, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> a =C3=A9cr
it :
>>>
>>>> 10 seconds? Of course the L 29 would be out of airspeed by then anyway.
So the next 10 would have been screaming uncontrollably as you plummet towa
rds the earth pulling out at the last minute thus saving the day and then te
lling everybody that you planned it that way. Works for me.
>>>>
>>>> Have fun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 22:42, delfin29@me.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_lWUAb3Qvs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>
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