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1. 07:16 AM - gear leg staying up. (skidmk)
2. 07:30 AM - Re: gear leg staying up. (William Geipel)
3. 07:37 AM - Re: gear leg staying up. (Jorgen Nielsen)
4. 07:37 AM - Re: gear leg staying up. (skidmk)
5. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: gear leg staying up. (William Geipel)
6. 11:47 AM - Attitude indicator (fougapilot)
7. 12:06 PM - Re: Attitude indicator (Delfindriver)
8. 12:17 PM - Re: Attitude indicator (fougapilot)
9. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Attitude indicator (William Geipel)
10. 02:18 PM - Re: Attitude indicator (Delfindriver)
11. 02:25 PM - Re: Attitude indicator (fougapilot)
12. 02:29 PM - Re: Re: Attitude indicator (Robert Schwartz)
13. 02:52 PM - Re: Re: Attitude indicator (delfin29@me.com)
14. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: Attitude indicator (Robert Schwartz)
15. 04:44 PM - Re: Re: Attitude indicator (William Geipel)
16. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: Attitude indicator (William Geipel)
17. 06:16 PM - Re: Attitude indicator (fougapilot)
18. 06:31 PM - Re: Re: Attitude indicator (L129bs)
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| Subject: | gear leg staying up. |
heres the issue, maybe someone has seen it.
select gear down, left gear leg will stay in the well. select emergency gear dow,
and it stays in the well, until I make a 2 g positive maneuver, then it comes
down and locks.
: lots of fluid in the system (at the full mark),
: lots of nitrogen in the accumulators (90 showing)
I am thinking perhaps the gear control valve is sticking or faulty? but then again,
I think the emergency system bypasses the valve, and if so, then the gear
should immediately come down.
thoughts? comments? dirty jokes?
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Ottawa, Ontario
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| Subject: | Re: gear leg staying up. |
What color are the gear lights when you select down? Does it stay red?
> On Jun 20, 2016, at 08:16, skidmk <skidmk@gmail.com> wrote:
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> select gear down, left gear leg will stay in the well. select emergency gear
dow, and it stays in the well, until I make a 2 g positive maneuver, then it
comes down and locks.
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> : lots of nitrogen in the accumulators (90 showing)
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> I am thinking perhaps the gear control valve is sticking or faulty? but then
again, I think the emergency system bypasses the valve, and if so, then the gear
should immediately come down.
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| Subject: | Re: gear leg staying up. |
Ok i'll try.
I told my blond girlfriend she coloured her eyebrows too high. She looked surprised.
>From memory the emergency down bypasses all the control systems and supplies hydraulic
fluid under pressure directly to the actuating mechanism. So, on the
basis that neither systems down the left undercarriage, the fault must lie at
the actuator, not in the control system.
The 2G's downing the undercarriage...probably when selecting gear down any locks
are opened, and the 2G's are enough to allow it down. I had to do that in a
seneca some years back, the backup system simply releases hydraulic pressure,
and gravity is supposed to get it down and locked.
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> On 20 Jun 2016, at 16:16, skidmk <skidmk@gmail.com> wrote:
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> heres the issue, maybe someone has seen it.
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> select gear down, left gear leg will stay in the well. select emergency gear
dow, and it stays in the well, until I make a 2 g positive maneuver, then it
comes down and locks.
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> : lots of fluid in the system (at the full mark),
> : lots of nitrogen in the accumulators (90 showing)
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> I am thinking perhaps the gear control valve is sticking or faulty? but then
again, I think the emergency system bypasses the valve, and if so, then the gear
should immediately come down.
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| Subject: | Re: gear leg staying up. |
the gear lights on the gear that drop right away go to green, the left gear leg
does not stay red, it just goes dark. At best, it might look like a really dim
green, but that might be my old eyes... lol
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| Subject: | Re: gear leg staying up. |
In order for the light to go out, a micro switch must be activated. In the wheel
well check the big uplock hook. See if you can turn it by hand. Some times it
comes loose and may be binding thus the 2 g pull.
The green light is controlled by the micro sw on the landing gear actuator. It
must be moving just enough to allow the light to go out. The red lights are controlled
by the micro sw on the leading edge in the wheel well. The light going
out indicates that the inboard gear door is opening.
bill
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does not stay red, it just goes dark. At best, it might look like a really
dim green, but that might be my old eyes... lol
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| Subject: | Attitude indicator |
Guys,
Two fold question here;
How accurate is your attitude indicator whilst doing aerobatic?
It seems mine doesn't like it anymore. When I start the bird it works just fine
(both cockpit) and after a few loops, it looses it and never recovers. I think
it is simply getting towards the end of it's life.
Anyone know where the gyro is located on an R model? The manual clearly specifies
where it is on the C model, but the R has a tendency to move things a bit here
and there... plus I don't remember anything underneath the rear seat.
Cheers.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
Center floor back cockpit
On June 20, 2016 9:52:43 PM "fougapilot" <fougapilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Guys,
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> Two fold question here;
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> How accurate is your attitude indicator whilst doing aerobatic?
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> It seems mine doesn't like it anymore. When I start the bird it works just
> fine (both cockpit) and after a few loops, it looses it and never recovers.
> I think it is simply getting towards the end of it's life.
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> Anyone know where the gyro is located on an R model? The manual clearly
> specifies where it is on the C model, but the R has a tendency to move
> things a bit here and there... plus I don't remember anything underneath
> the rear seat.
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
L29delfin(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Center floor back cockpit
Even on the R model?
There was a big camera there and a hole in the floor in a previous life.
That is why the Hyd accumulators were moved to the nose section and I do not remember
ever seeing the Gyro there when the floor was open.
Thank for the help.
D
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
The original location for the attitude gyro is above the rear floor in a
dome. If rear controls have been added it's most likely moved to rear side
On June 20, 2016 10:03:28 PM Delfindriver <L29delfin@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Center floor back cockpit
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> On June 20, 2016 9:52:43 PM "fougapilot" <fougapilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> How accurate is your attitude indicator whilst doing aerobatic?
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>> It seems mine doesn't like it anymore. When I start the bird it works just
>> fine (both cockpit) and after a few loops, it looses it and never recovers.
>> I think it is simply getting towards the end of it's life.
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>> Anyone know where the gyro is located on an R model? The manual clearly
>> specifies where it is on the C model, but the R has a tendency to move
>> things a bit here and there... plus I don't remember anything underneath
>> the rear seat.
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>> Cheers.
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
Interesting!
We do have dual controls, so it has been moved...
I guess I will simply follow the cables and see where the rabbit hole leads...
Cheers,
D
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
Most likely rear cockpit under side panels. Its =C2-a round grey gyro cas
e. And it's bigBob
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 0:24, fougapilot<fougapilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
Interesting!
We do have dual controls, so it has been moved...
I guess I will simply follow the cables and see where the rabbit hole leads
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Cheers,
D
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
Grey or black. I think there are two (one for attitude, other for angle)
Jean
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> Most likely rear cockpit under side panels. Its a round grey gyro
case. And it's big
> Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
Turn and bank is between front and back seat on right side under panel. =C2
-The big attitude gyro could be anywhere. It's not a sanctioned relocatio
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rey or black. I think there are two (one for attitude, other for angle)Jean
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Interesting!
We do have dual controls, so it has been moved...
I guess I will simply follow the cables and see where the rabbit hole leads
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
It has to be on the sidewall. probably the right side in the rear cockpit.
(WAG)
> On Jun 20, 2016, at 15:24, fougapilot <fougapilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
one. gray.
> On Jun 20, 2016, at 15:52, delfin29@me.com wrote:
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angle)
> Jean
>> Le 20 juin 2016 =C3- 21:28, Robert Schwartz
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case. And it's big
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| Subject: | Re: Attitude indicator |
There is a gray vertical cylinder on the RH side between both cockpit, I would
think that this is the gyro for the DG.
I will Open the back cockpit next time I am at the airport and look for the Attitude
gyro.
D
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