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1. 05:34 AM - Re: Re: Engine won't turn no power (William Geipel)
2. 05:36 AM - Re: Need to locate an instructor (William Geipel)
3. 08:52 AM - Re: Need to locate an instructor (N777ZE)
4. 02:46 PM - Re: Re: Need to locate an instructor (William Geipel)
5. 03:12 PM - Re: Re: Need to locate an instructor (William Geipel)
6. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Need to locate an instructor (Dennis Von Ruden)
7. 03:31 PM - Re: Re: Need to locate an instructor (William Geipel)
8. 03:40 PM - Re: Need to locate an instructor (N777ZE)
9. 03:46 PM - Re: Engine won't turn no power (N777ZE)
10. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: Engine won't turn no power (William Geipel)
11. 03:56 PM - Re: Re: Engine won't turn no power (William Geipel)
12. 08:49 PM - Re: Engine won't turn no power (N777ZE)
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| Subject: | Re: Engine won't turn no power |
very political.
So if you did this, would the rest of the start sequence proceed as normal including
starter cut-out?
And IF this was done, is the box bad or?
Did it work?
I may or may not be interested. And impressed.
> On Jul 20, 2016, at 20:56, N777ZE <Piper72pilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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be a video on my google drive of it... Take the cover off the starter box,
get some car jumper cables, put one on each of the 2 very large lugs that attach
to the relay... have someone sit up front, turn on all normal switches (batt,
master, eng) take the other end of the cables and get out from under the plane,
touch the 2 jumper cable ends together to complete the circuit and when
the engine spins up, press the air start switch, remove cables... if you dont
blow yourself up... the engine by this point might have started
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| Subject: | Re: Need to locate an instructor |
Why the midwest?
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| Subject: | Re: Need to locate an instructor |
My plane is currently in Detroit and I'm in Madison. It went there for its inspection
and my 3 options for an instructor in a 29 have all fallen through. More
or less I'd rather learn in my plane than in say a viper or other aircraft.
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| Subject: | Re: Need to locate an instructor |
Who did your inspection? I am looking for a tail dolly to use that is in the midwest.
May I ask where you got your airplane?
I might be able to help with your instructor need.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Need to locate an instructor |
Found a picture. Zach Mcniel. Thought I recognized it.
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| Subject: | Re: Need to locate an instructor |
I have a tail dolly and am located in Owatonna, Minnesota.
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Who did your inspection? I am looking for a tail dolly to use that is in th
e midwest.
May I ask where you got your airplane?
I might be able to help with your instructor need.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Need to locate an instructor |
Cool! Why do you have a tail dolly?
I would need to use it for about a week.
Is that possible?
Bill
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> Who did your inspection? I am looking for a tail dolly to use that is
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> > On Jul 21, 2016, at 09:51, N777ZE <Piper72pilot@hotmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Need to locate an instructor |
Yes i bought from Z about 2 years ago, code one did the initial inspection and
martys crew over at WHAM did a much thorough inspection this year, pulling the
tail. i was scheduled to fly with Tom Schnell last month but had a sudden death
here and had to postpone and then he got snatched up for a govt contract.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine won't turn no power |
It started because i more or less bypassed the start relay and got the engine to
spool up. The rest of the 29 is pretty much all mechanical so when the engine
was spinning by powering up the starter and then the air start was hit, it
manually activated the igniters and started the engine. But to answer your question,
no it didnt fix the situation and a new start box didnt either. This
was a plane that rick prindle was selling, its since become a parts plane.
Id check all your breakers, cycle them, all the switches in the L29 are breaker
switches. Its possible ones tripped or weak.
If your engine doesnt turn over and your igniters dont come on, check your start
box, theres a disc that turns around and activates different functions and then
returns to a home position. Its easy to remove with a large flatw blade and
safety wire cutter.
If your igniters come on but no spin, its probably your starter.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine won't turn no power |
So when you touched the jumper cables together you get an instant 400amps? As opposed
to the normal start sequence
of 200amps then 400? Hard on ye old starter shaft I would think.
Start button working?
Plug in external power and try it. just something else to try.
Rick Prindle, ah ha!
So is it the parts airplane that you are trying to start? Why?
> On Jul 21, 2016, at 16:46, N777ZE <Piper72pilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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to spool up. The rest of the 29 is pretty much all mechanical so when the engine
was spinning by powering up the starter and then the air start was hit, it
manually activated the igniters and started the engine. But to answer your
question, no it didnt fix the situation and a new start box didnt either. This
was a plane that rick prindle was selling, its since become a parts plane.
Id check all your breakers, cycle them, all the switches in the L29 are breaker
switches. Its possible ones tripped or weak.
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box, theres a disc that turns around and activates different functions and
then returns to a home position. Its easy to remove with a large flatw blade
and safety wire cutter.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine won't turn no power |
Is it 777ze that you want to fly?
> On Jul 21, 2016, at 16:46, N777ZE <Piper72pilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> It started because i more or less bypassed the start relay and got the engine
to spool up. The rest of the 29 is pretty much all mechanical so when the engine
was spinning by powering up the starter and then the air start was hit, it
manually activated the igniters and started the engine. But to answer your
question, no it didnt fix the situation and a new start box didnt either. This
was a plane that rick prindle was selling, its since become a parts plane.
Id check all your breakers, cycle them, all the switches in the L29 are breaker
switches. Its possible ones tripped or weak.
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box, theres a disc that turns around and activates different functions and
then returns to a home position. Its easy to remove with a large flatw blade
and safety wire cutter.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine won't turn no power |
This was about 2-1/2 years ago when i was on the hunt for a 29. It was the dark
blue one on the ramp in lancaster. Lets just say the photos were taken from
really far away. After it started he cycled the flaps and hydraulic fluid was
spraying out the turtleback. But it did the same exact thing the OP mentioned,
click clicked and nothing else. Zach bought the plane as a project, he may
have figured it out, not sure. I know we tried a spare start box from cwam and
no change.
And yea 777ZE is mine, just need to get my rating done
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