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1. 03:46 PM - Nose Gear (Anthony Royal)
2. 04:26 PM - Re: Nose Gear (William Geipel)
3. 05:08 PM - Re: Nose Gear (Anthony Royal)
4. 05:15 PM - Re: Nose Gear (Bill Culberson)
5. 05:18 PM - Re: Nose Gear (William Geipel)
6. 05:33 PM - Re: Nose Gear (Anthony Royal)
7. 06:02 PM - Re: Nose Gear (Anthony Royal)
8. 06:38 PM - Re: Nose Gear (Bill Culberson)
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Ok guys....need some help here. In process of doing the condition inspectio
n on the L29.=C2- I'm servicing the nose gear strut with fluid and nitrog
en.=C2- Maintenance manual says to depressurize the strut and add 3.38 oz
s. of fluid and let set for 1-2 hours. then compress several times until th
e upper H-H edge of the piston rod nut is level with the K-K plane of the c
ylinder closing nut ( see Fig. 3.11). Excess fluid escapes thru the filler
valve opening. After this operation, the quantity of AMG-10 (Aeroshell Flui
d 4) will be correct. Fill with nitrogen to correct pressure.
Does anyone have a copy of Fig 3.11 they could email me?=C2- I have not b
een able to find this figure in any of my books.=C2- I have 4.25" of exte
nded strut. With the 3.38 oz of added fluid, the strut will hydraulic lock
upon compression at about 3" of exposed and I'm pretty sure that is not rig
ht.=C2-=C2-Any help is appreciate.skyking76t@verizon.net
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Try this, Collapse the strut completely, (on jacks of course), add fluid
until it is overflowing, let the strut extend, top off with nitrogen and
a nice cocktail.
Just a thought.
How much nitrogen pressure do you have in the strut? 19 + 1 is correct.
(ATM)
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 16:46, Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.net>
wrote:
>
> Ok guys....need some help here. In process of doing the condition
inspection on the L29. I'm servicing the nose gear strut with fluid and
nitrogen. Maintenance manual says to depressurize the strut and add
3.38 ozs. of fluid and let set for 1-2 hours. then compress several
times until the upper H-H edge of the piston rod nut is level with the
K-K plane of the cylinder closing nut ( see Fig. 3.11). Excess fluid
escapes thru the filler valve opening. After this operation, the
quantity of AMG-10 (Aeroshell Fluid 4) will be correct. Fill with
nitrogen to correct pressure.
>
> Does anyone have a copy of Fig 3.11 they could email me? I have not
been able to find this figure in any of my books. I have 4.25" of
extended strut. With the 3.38 oz of added fluid, the strut will
hydraulic lock upon compression at about 3" of exposed and I'm pretty
sure that is not right.
>
> Any help is appreciate.
> skyking76t@verizon.net
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Worth a try. In my civil aircraft, we added just enough fluid so the strut
would stop 0.5" from full collapse, to keep from bottoming out metal to met
al if you lost pressure. That worked good for those.
I've never been able to get that much in mine. It completely extends the st
rut. Last time I added 18 atm, I let out enough so that when I pushed down
on the nose, the strut went down and bounced back to full extend, then sett
led back down about an inch. That worked good. This summer the strut seemed
to increase pressure and go back to just barely short of full extend on it
s own. Became worried might fully extend on the ground at the wrong time an
d lock in straight position and lose steering. Thus, trying to set as much
per book with regards to fluid as possible and then work with pressure.=C2
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On Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:27 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com>
wrote:
Try this, Collapse the strut completely, (on jacks of course), add fluid u
ntil it is overflowing, let the strut extend, top off with nitrogen and a n
ice cocktail.Just a thought.=C2-
How much nitrogen pressure do you have in the strut? 19=C2-+=C2-1 is co
rrect. (ATM)
On Jan 14, 2018, at 16:46, Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.net> wrote:
Ok guys....need some help here. In process of doing the condition inspectio
n on the L29.=C2- I'm servicing the nose gear strut with fluid and nitrog
en.=C2- Maintenance manual says to depressurize the strut and add 3.38 oz
s. of fluid and let set for 1-2 hours. then compress several times until th
e upper H-H edge of the piston rod nut is level with the K-K plane of the c
ylinder closing nut ( see Fig. 3.11). Excess fluid escapes thru the filler
valve opening. After this operation, the quantity of AMG-10 (Aeroshell Flui
d 4) will be correct. Fill with nitrogen to correct pressure.
Does anyone have a copy of Fig 3.11 they could email me?=C2- I have not b
een able to find this figure in any of my books.=C2- I have 4.25" of exte
nded strut. With the 3.38 oz of added fluid, the strut will hydraulic lock
upon compression at about 3" of exposed and I'm pretty sure that is not rig
ht.=C2-=C2-Any help is appreciate.skyking76t@verizon.net
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I use the same approach as Bill, works well.
But not the same cocktail
Bill Culberson
N39DE (till tomorrow)
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 6:26 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Try this, Collapse the strut completely, (on jacks of course), add fluid u
ntil it is overflowing, let the strut extend, top off with nitrogen and a ni
ce cocktail.
> Just a thought.
>
> How much nitrogen pressure do you have in the strut? 19 + 1 is correct. (A
TM)
>
>
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 16:46, Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ok guys....need some help here. In process of doing the condition inspect
ion on the L29. I'm servicing the nose gear strut with fluid and nitrogen.
Maintenance manual says to depressurize the strut and add 3.38 ozs. of flui
d and let set for 1-2 hours. then compress several times until the upper H-H
edge of the piston rod nut is level with the K-K plane of the cylinder clos
ing nut ( see Fig. 3.11). Excess fluid escapes thru the filler valve opening
. After this operation, the quantity of AMG-10 (Aeroshell Fluid 4) will be c
orrect. Fill with nitrogen to correct pressure.
>>
>> Does anyone have a copy of Fig 3.11 they could email me? I have not been
able to find this figure in any of my books. I have 4.25" of extended stru
t. With the 3.38 oz of added fluid, the strut will hydraulic lock upon compr
ession at about 3" of exposed and I'm pretty sure that is not right.
>>
>> Any help is appreciate.
>> skyking76t@verizon.net
>
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Till tomorrow?
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 18:15, Bill Culberson <migfighter42@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I use the same approach as Bill, works well.
>
> But not the same cocktail
>
> Bill Culberson
> N39DE (till tomorrow)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 6:26 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com
<mailto:l129bs@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Try this, Collapse the strut completely, (on jacks of course), add
fluid until it is overflowing, let the strut extend, top off with
nitrogen and a nice cocktail.
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> How much nitrogen pressure do you have in the strut? 19 + 1 is
correct. (ATM)
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 16:46, Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.net
<mailto:skyking76t@verizon.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok guys....need some help here. In process of doing the condition
inspection on the L29. I'm servicing the nose gear strut with fluid and
nitrogen. Maintenance manual says to depressurize the strut and add
3.38 ozs. of fluid and let set for 1-2 hours. then compress several
times until the upper H-H edge of the piston rod nut is level with the
K-K plane of the cylinder closing nut ( see Fig. 3.11). Excess fluid
escapes thru the filler valve opening. After this operation, the
quantity of AMG-10 (Aeroshell Fluid 4) will be correct. Fill with
nitrogen to correct pressure.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a copy of Fig 3.11 they could email me? I have not
been able to find this figure in any of my books. I have 4.25" of
extended strut. With the 3.38 oz of added fluid, the strut will
hydraulic lock upon compression at about 3" of exposed and I'm pretty
sure that is not right.
>>>
>>> Any help is appreciate.
>>> skyking76t@verizon.net <mailto:skyking76t@verizon.net>
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If that works for both of you, I will give it a try. Thanks for both your i
nputs.
On Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:19 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com>
wrote:
Till tomorrow?
On Jan 14, 2018, at 18:15, Bill Culberson <migfighter42@gmail.com> wrote:
I use the same approach as Bill, works well.=C2-
But not the same cocktail
Bill CulbersonN39DE (till tomorrow)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2018, at 6:26 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
Try this, Collapse the strut completely, (on jacks of course), add fluid un
til it is overflowing, let the strut extend, top off with nitrogen and a ni
ce cocktail.Just a thought.=C2-
How much nitrogen pressure do you have in the strut? 19=C2-+=C2-1 is co
rrect. (ATM)
On Jan 14, 2018, at 16:46, Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.net> wrote:
Ok guys....need some help here. In process of doing the condition inspectio
n on the L29.=C2- I'm servicing the nose gear strut with fluid and nitrog
en.=C2- Maintenance manual says to depressurize the strut and add 3.38 oz
s. of fluid and let set for 1-2 hours. then compress several times until th
e upper H-H edge of the piston rod nut is level with the K-K plane of the c
ylinder closing nut ( see Fig. 3.11). Excess fluid escapes thru the filler
valve opening. After this operation, the quantity of AMG-10 (Aeroshell Flui
d 4) will be correct. Fill with nitrogen to correct pressure.
Does anyone have a copy of Fig 3.11 they could email me?=C2- I have not b
een able to find this figure in any of my books.=C2- I have 4.25" of exte
nded strut. With the 3.38 oz of added fluid, the strut will hydraulic lock
upon compression at about 3" of exposed and I'm pretty sure that is not rig
ht.=C2-=C2-Any help is appreciate.skyking76t@verizon.net
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After 2 days searching, I just found the diagram that shows the H-H and K-K
planes and it wasn't a Fig 3.11.=C2- It was a Fig. 45 .....and you both
were correct to collapse the strut all the way.=C2- =C2-Thanks for the
guidance!!!
On Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:34 PM, Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.
net> wrote:
If that works for both of you, I will give it a try. Thanks for both your
inputs.
On Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:19 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com>
wrote:
Till tomorrow?
On Jan 14, 2018, at 18:15, Bill Culberson <migfighter42@gmail.com> wrote:
I use the same approach as Bill, works well.=C2-
But not the same cocktail
Bill CulbersonN39DE (till tomorrow)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2018, at 6:26 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
Try this, Collapse the strut completely, (on jacks of course), add fluid un
til it is overflowing, let the strut extend, top off with nitrogen and a ni
ce cocktail.Just a thought.=C2-
How much nitrogen pressure do you have in the strut? 19=C2-+=C2-1 is co
rrect. (ATM)
On Jan 14, 2018, at 16:46, Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.net> wrote:
Ok guys....need some help here. In process of doing the condition inspectio
n on the L29.=C2- I'm servicing the nose gear strut with fluid and nitrog
en.=C2- Maintenance manual says to depressurize the strut and add 3.38 oz
s. of fluid and let set for 1-2 hours. then compress several times until th
e upper H-H edge of the piston rod nut is level with the K-K plane of the c
ylinder closing nut ( see Fig. 3.11). Excess fluid escapes thru the filler
valve opening. After this operation, the quantity of AMG-10 (Aeroshell Flui
d 4) will be correct. Fill with nitrogen to correct pressure.
Does anyone have a copy of Fig 3.11 they could email me?=C2- I have not b
een able to find this figure in any of my books.=C2- I have 4.25" of exte
nded strut. With the 3.38 oz of added fluid, the strut will hydraulic lock
upon compression at about 3" of exposed and I'm pretty sure that is not rig
ht.=C2-=C2-Any help is appreciate.skyking76t@verizon.net
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Tomorrow I will be selling my L-29 to a friend of mine from Tennessee.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> If that works for both of you, I will give it a try. Thanks for both your i
nputs.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:19 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wro
te:
>
>
> Till tomorrow?
>
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 18:15, Bill Culberson <migfighter42@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>
> I use the same approach as Bill, works well.
>
> But not the same cocktail
>
> Bill Culberson
> N39DE (till tomorrow)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 6:26 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>
> Try this, Collapse the strut completely, (on jacks of course), add fluid u
ntil it is overflowing, let the strut extend, top off with nitrogen and a ni
ce cocktail.
> Just a thought.
>
> How much nitrogen pressure do you have in the strut? 19 + 1 is correct. (A
TM)
>
>
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 16:46, Anthony Royal <skyking76t@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ok guys....need some help here. In process of doing the condition inspect
ion on the L29. I'm servicing the nose gear strut with fluid and nitrogen.
Maintenance manual says to depressurize the strut and add 3.38 ozs. of flui
d and let set for 1-2 hours. then compress several times until the upper H-H
edge of the piston rod nut is level with the K-K plane of the cylinder clos
ing nut ( see Fig. 3.11). Excess fluid escapes thru the filler valve opening
. After this operation, the quantity of AMG-10 (Aeroshell Fluid 4) will be c
orrect. Fill with nitrogen to correct pressure.
>>
>> Does anyone have a copy of Fig 3.11 they could email me? I have not been
able to find this figure in any of my books. I have 4.25" of extended stru
t. With the 3.38 oz of added fluid, the strut will hydraulic lock upon compr
ession at about 3" of exposed and I'm pretty sure that is not right.
>>
>> Any help is appreciate.
>> skyking76t@verizon.net
>
>
>
>
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