---------------------------------------------------------- Lancair-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/31/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:02 AM - Lancair ES (GARY PENNINGTON) 2. 06:59 AM - Re: Lancair ES (tom.on.the.road@juno.com) 3. 09:03 AM - Re: Lancair ES (Brian Alley) 4. 01:21 PM - Re: Lancair ES (GARY PENNINGTON) 5. 04:33 PM - Re: Lancair ES (Bill Bradburry) 6. 04:43 PM - Re: Lancair ES (GARY PENNINGTON) 7. 04:56 PM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_Lancair-List=3A_Lancair_ES? (Nicholas Paczkowski) 8. 09:24 PM - Re: Lancair ES (Rick Titsworth) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:38 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:35 AM PST US From: "tom.on.the.road@juno.com" Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I have a kit (mostly completed) for sale. The ES was originally designed for the Cont. 360 (210 HP).. Many were b uilt. and fly well. Some folks have put Lycomings in (6 cyl.) and they d o well too. With the IO-550, you can run lean of peak on less than 12 gph at 180-185 knots. Call, if you're interested in my kit. Tom 970-420-1798 ____________________________________________________________ Go Back to School Grant Funding May Be Available to Those Who Qualify http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ccd756e4326c7d5f0st01vuc ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:31 AM PST US From: Brian Alley Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" wrote: > Hello everyone > > I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a p artially built kit that is for sale. > > I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used a nd what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. > > Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES th at is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? > > Can anyone advise me? > > Thank you. > Gary Pennington > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:59 PM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley To: lancair-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" > wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. 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The best build plans have a way of life getting in the way of them. If you can get a good deal, I recommend that you find a kit partially completed and look at it very carefully to see if it is done with quality so you want have to redo anything. Good Luck! Bill B _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington 3D=========================3 D=================== title='about:3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"'>http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List 3D=========================3 D=================== href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D=========================3 D=================== title='about:3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution 3D=========================3 D=================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:44 PM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Bill Your comments are very helpful. Thank you very much. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bradburry To: lancair-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, Building a plane is not just exactly like selling one and buying another.you will probably be without a plane to fly for several years if you sell then build. The best build plans have a way of life getting in the way of them. If you can get a good deal, I recommend that you find a kit partially completed and look at it very carefully to see if it is done with quality so you want have to redo anything. Good Luck! Bill B ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:16 PM To: lancair-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley To: lancair-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" > wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. 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X-mailer: iolo System Shield 4.0.3.161 I endorse what Bill is saying. I am on my 10th year of building a L-IV. Life has a way.... In any event, late in the game you will require an engine and a panel. That's a good time to sell the plane that you are flying for the final expensive touches that you need to get airborne in the ES From: owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: October-31-10 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Bill Your comments are very helpful. Thank you very much. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bradburry Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, Building a plane is not just exactly like selling one and buying another.you will probably be without a plane to fly for several years if you sell then build. The best build plans have a way of life getting in the way of them. If you can get a good deal, I recommend that you find a kit partially completed and look at it very carefully to see if it is done with quality so you want have to redo anything. Good Luck! Bill B _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. 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In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. 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