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1. 12:14 AM - Re: Lancair ES (Rick Titsworth)
2. 04:45 AM - Re: Lancair ES (GARY PENNINGTON)
3. 06:30 AM - Re: Lancair ES (Rick Titsworth)
4. 05:25 PM - Re: Lancair ES (GARY PENNINGTON)
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Gary,
FYI,
I noticed your post was from the Yahoo Lancair site. Good site, but..
Frankly, that site is not the most followed/active.
For ES info, there is a Lancair ES group here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lancair_ES/
15,000 past emails, pictures, etc - all from ES builders/flyers/etc
The nerve center of the ES group ;-)
Rick
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From: owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
Hello Karolina/Rick
It sounds like getting used to the side stick is no big thing. I have flown
three airplanes with center sticks and I prefer the center stick over the
yoke I now fly in my Archer III.
Thanks guys
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Titsworth <mailto:rtitsworth2@mindspring.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
<rtitsworth2@mindspring.com>
Cirrus is really a side yoke (not a side stick). Although it only has one
"ear/handle", it still slides in/out, versus pivoting.
Furthermore, Cirrus Elevator/pitch and Aileron/roll controls are all cable
driven (hence the springy/sloppy feel).
Side stick (Lancair/Columbia) was comfortable for me in about 10 min. I
wouldn't have it any other way.
Think about it this way: you're often flying with one hand anyway - Right
hand on the throttle during take-off, most of approach, and doing everything
else (radios, flaps, etc).
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karoliina
Salminen
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
<karoliina.t.salminen@gmail.com>
Hello,
I am just a lurker as I fly Diamond, not Lancair at the moment (even
if the Evolution still remains my dream plane from all the kits out
there), so short comment from the usual silence:
> How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks?
We have traditional stick in Diamond and then I have also flown with
side stick Cirrus SR20 and SR22.
The Cirrus side stick has pretty springy feel (which may not be the
case with Lancair, Cirrus control feel is kind
of unique as far as I know) which makes it not so ideal, but anyhow
getting used to the
side stick part took maybe the first 15 minutes of the first
familiarization flight. Not very big deal.
For the feel and accuracy of the control I prefer the Diamond-style
stick but for the cockpit space and freedom,
the side stick is very good. On our N. Atlantic crossing trip with the
immersion suits on it would have been
a bit more comfortable with a side stick controlled plane than it was
with the Diamond. I think yoke is not to be discussed as who
wants to drive with a yoke anyway.
Best Regards,
Karoliina
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Hello Rick
I accessed the site. Thanks for the info.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Titsworth<mailto:rtitsworth2@mindspring.com>
To: lancair-list@matronics.com<mailto:lancair-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:55 PM
Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
Gary,
FYI,
I noticed your post was from the Yahoo Lancair site. Good site, but..
Frankly, that site is not the most followed/active.
For ES info, there is a Lancair ES group here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lancair_ES/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/L
ancair_ES/>
15,000 past emails, pictures, etc - all from ES builders/flyers/etc
The nerve center of the ES group ;-)
Rick
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From: owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:37 PM
To: lancair-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
Hello Karolina/Rick
It sounds like getting used to the side stick is no big thing. I have
flown three airplanes with center sticks and I prefer the center stick
over the yoke I now fly in my Archer III.
Thanks guys
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Titsworth<mailto:rtitsworth2@mindspring.com>
To: lancair-list@matronics.com<mailto:lancair-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
<rtitsworth2@mindspring.com<mailto:rtitsworth2@mindspring.com>>
Cirrus is really a side yoke (not a side stick). Although it only
has one
"ear/handle", it still slides in/out, versus pivoting.
Furthermore, Cirrus Elevator/pitch and Aileron/roll controls are all
cable
driven (hence the springy/sloppy feel).
Side stick (Lancair/Columbia) was comfortable for me in about 10
min. I
wouldn't have it any other way.
Think about it this way: you're often flying with one hand anyway -
Right
hand on the throttle during take-off, most of approach, and doing
everything
else (radios, flaps, etc).
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@
matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Karoliina
Salminen
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:10 PM
To: lancair-list@matronics.com<mailto:lancair-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
<karoliina.t.salminen@gmail.com<mailto:karoliina.t.salminen@gmail.com>>
Hello,
I am just a lurker as I fly Diamond, not Lancair at the moment (even
if the Evolution still remains my dream plane from all the kits out
there), so short comment from the usual silence:
> How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks?
We have traditional stick in Diamond and then I have also flown with
side stick Cirrus SR20 and SR22.
The Cirrus side stick has pretty springy feel (which may not be the
case with Lancair, Cirrus control feel is kind
of unique as far as I know) which makes it not so ideal, but anyhow
getting used to the
side stick part took maybe the first 15 minutes of the first
familiarization flight. Not very big deal.
For the feel and accuracy of the control I prefer the Diamond-style
stick but for the cockpit space and freedom,
the side stick is very good. On our N. Atlantic crossing trip with
the
immersion suits on it would have been
a bit more comfortable with a side stick controlled plane than it
was
with the Diamond. I think yoke is not to be discussed as who
wants to drive with a yoke anyway.
Best Regards,
Karoliina
http://n756ds.blogspot.com<http://n756ds.blogspot.com/>
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Do you get to SNF or OSH?
We typically have an informal ES builder/flyer dinner there (in addition to
anything Lancair does).
Pretty good group, and the experienced builder/flyers have been very
gracious with their learning's.
There's lots of help/insight available.
Rick
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[mailto:owner-lancair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
Hello Rick
I accessed the site. Thanks for the info.
Gary Pennington
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Hello Rick
Yes, I have been to Sun-n-Fun and Oshkosh but haven't been to the
Lancair events.
Have a great day.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Titsworth<mailto:rtitsworth2@mindspring.com>
To: lancair-list@matronics.com<mailto:lancair-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:27 AM
Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
Do you get to SNF or OSH?
We typically have an informal ES builder/flyer dinner there (in
addition to anything Lancair does).
Pretty good group, and the experienced builder/flyers have been very
gracious with their learning's.
There's lots of help/insight available.
Rick
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Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:43 AM
To: lancair-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES
Hello Rick
I accessed the site. Thanks for the info.
Gary Pennington
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