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1. 03:53 AM - Phantom (Brian Whittingham)
2. 04:46 AM - Re: Lightning Cargo Capacity Questions (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
3. 06:12 AM - IFR and x-c stability? (deuskid)
4. 10:54 AM - Re: Lightning Cargo Capacity Questions (Brian Whittingham)
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--> Lightning-List message posted by: "Brian Whittingham" <dashvii@hotmail.com>
Dan,
I think there are just two that are regular "airshow" planes. There are
still a lot of QF-4's which are target drones. Google the Colling's
Foundation, I know they have one. One of the flyers is a plane that was
converted to a drone and now back to fighter colors, a gray paint scheme.
The other is a camo scheme. I know of none flying in Navy schemes which is
pretty sad considering this plane served with the Air Force, Navy, and
Marine Corp as top dog for a while. I know the Colling's is a D model I
believe. Hope this helps, Brian W.
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Cargo Capacity Questions |
In a message dated 8/23/2006 2:02:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
djvdb63@yahoo.com writes:
there was an F-4 at Gary, IN (GYY) this past weekend
Dan,
Brain called it right. We still have QF-4's (target drones for air to
air missile testing) flying out of Tyndall AFB in Florida and they have at
least one that they keep show ready and take to various airshows, so that is
probably what you saw. They had one at Oshkosh again this year. Kind of sad
to
have them used that way - even though the missiles are programmed to miss by
a certain small distance, occasionally they do get hit.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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| Subject: | IFR and x-c stability? |
--> Lightning-List message posted by: "deuskid" <empire.john@gmail.com>
there was a thread that I read yesterday that I can't find today that was asking
about 'stability' for x-c by an ex F-4 driver.. I know the RV folks say the
7 and the 9 are pretty good IFR platforms because of their wing area. I know
it isn't as simple as sq-ft but it is one significant variable and so I researched
each's ft^2:
Lightning: 91
RV-6: 110
RV-7: 121
RV-9: 124
is there some quantifiable way to come up with a 'stability' quotent?
I am ignorant [but trainable]. Ignorant because I'm not yet a pilot but I may
have a long long-term commute in my future and if it comes to be I'm researching
options.
thanks,
John
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56623#56623
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Cargo Capacity Questions |
--> Lightning-List message posted by: "Brian Whittingham" <dashvii@hotmail.com>
Out west there were several signs for military aircraft around NM, and AZ.
One of them was the QF-4's. Another were Mig 23's which I'm not sure what
that was about. Anyhow there are still many of the F-4's mothballed at
Davis Motham in Tucson. I understand that they are converting most if not
all of the servicable airframes to QF-4's. I think we flew them in the
Guard up until like early 90's or so. Israel still flies some too I
believe. Brian W.
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