Lightning-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/06/07


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 04:47 AM - Fw: A trip to "Lightning Operations" (Dave)
     2. 05:35 AM - Lightnings in cross winds (EAFerguson@AOL.COM)
     3. 11:33 AM - Re: A trip to "Lightning Operations" (Ron Wullaert)
     4. 12:55 PM - Re: A trip to "Lightning Operations" (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
     5. 01:05 PM - Re: A trip to "Lightning Operations" (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
     6. 01:07 PM - Back in Virginia (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
     7. 01:38 PM - Re: Back in Virginia (Brian Whittingham)
     8. 06:04 PM - fiberglass parts (Tex Mantell)
     9. 06:09 PM - Re: Back in Virginia (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:47:13 AM PST US
    From: "Dave" <corky@hbci.com>
    Subject: A trip to "Lightning Operations"
    ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: A trip to "Lightning Operations" Pete I concur, my question related to paragraph 6.3, sub notes. I am sure I was reading into it about any engine below serial 856 having a lower flywheel bolt torque of 24 ft lbs. Thanks again, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: A trip to "Lightning Operations" Dave, From the service bulletin itself: 4.7 2200 Engines S/No. 2058 and Above. 3300 Engines S/No. 837 and Above. a) Maintain the engine as detailed in Modified Maintenance Schedule B in Section 6.2 below. As you can see engines serial number 33A837 and above only need to comply with the revised maintenance schedule. Pete Krotje Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:56 AM To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: A trip to "Lightning Operations" Buz I believe the flywheel bolt applies to all engines under serial 856. If I read it right your flywheel bolts would not have the new torque of 24 lbs. I will be replacing mine on serial 751 with 219 hrs. Please let me know if I am incorrect. More stuff-- don't know if you were lucky enough to install a Becker com, if not and have a Micro 760, I had to send mine in because of a factory circuit board problem and internal ground strapping problems. I had to call Australia to figure this one out. You can receive, but sends garbled. Auto pilot is almost done, excited to give it a try. Dave McC ----- Original Message ----- From: N1BZRich@aol.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Lightning-List: A trip to "Lightning Operations" Hello to all Lightning pilots, builders, and fans, Hopefully this "rather long" trip report will generate some more message traffic about the Lightning. I hope so. Feel free to inject your thoughts, ideas, suggestions, or questions. Someone on the list will probably have the answers. Here goes: I just spent another ten days with the Lightning guys in Tennessee and thought I would post a few thoughts and observations. The purpose of my trip from Virginia to Shelbyville was twofold. First, my Jabiru 3300 powered Esqual LS (Lightning Stuff) now has 250 hours on it (in the last 14 months) and I needed to do some time phased preventative engine maintenance. More on that later. The second reason for the trip was to help Joe and Linda Mathias (good friends from Virginia) with the initial test flights on their Lightning and also help them with some of the detail things like gear leg fairings and wheel pants. The trip out here Friday a week ago was one of the roughest rides I have had in a light airplane. I bumped all the way across Virginia and the eastern half of Tennessee and at times saw winds as high as 80 mph (about 30 degrees off the nose) and an effective head wind of almost 50 mph. Luckily, the winds changed to mostly cross winds as I got further into Tennessee, so I was able make up some time and get my average speed up some. As I usually do, I made the trip non stop, but it took 4.2 hours due to the head winds. I still managed to average 130 mph block to block, but I normally can make the trip in 3.3 hours with a block to block speed close to 170. Fuel burn for this trip was about 6 gph - slightly higher that I normally burn, but I kept trying different altitudes with hopes of finding less head winds and smoother air. No luck. Saturday morning (24 Feb) the Lightning and Jabiru aircraft guys attended an EAA fly-in here at Shelbyville. Yes, we took off from here and then "flew-in". Nick in the prototype Lightning, Pete in a new Special Light Sport Jabiru, and me in 31BZ, flew some formation before landing for another great EAA breakfast. The ramp was full and the food was great, so it was a good fly-in. Saturday afternoon Pete helped me do yet another head torque and valve adjustment (not a requirement for those of you that have the new hydraulic lifter engines). We also replaced the distributor caps and rotors, put on new plug wires, and set the gap between the flywheel magnets and ignition coils. Note: the distributor caps and rotors are time replacement items which I should have done at 200 hours. One other thing we did was to check my engine serial number against the Jabiru Service Bulletin having to do with the flywheel bolts. Luckily my engine serial number (843) did not require the procedures called out in the SB. Sunday was spent doing a few other maintenance and clean up items on 31BZ while Pete flew some more time off another SLA Jabiru. Believe it or not, Pete and Ben (with family members) went to a Circus here in Shelbyville Sunday afternoon. You would think they would have had their fill of dealing with us "Clowns" on a daily basis. Monday was a big event as Nick made a first flight in Rick Bowen's Lightning which flew beautifully with no airframe corrections required. I happened to be airborne flying some demo flights at the time and was able to get a close up view of Rick's "jet" in flight. Unfortunately, I did not have a camera with me, but it is another beautiful Lightning. Tuesday's big event was Linda and Joe's airworthiness inspection by the local FAA DAR. The inspection went well - as do all of the inspections in Shelbyville because the Lightning and Jabiru guys know their stuff and have a great reputation with the FAA. I am always impressed as to how "on top of things" the Tennessee gang is. If you have any kind of "tool skills" and will listen to their guidance, you will end up with a fantastic airplane. Wednesday was probably a first for the Arion Aircraft group as two Lightnings made their first flights on the same day. Linda and Joe trusted me enough to give me the honor of making the first flight in their "Lightning Bug" (N59JL) and it flew beautifully. Linda will take over the test flying duties soon. Shortly after that flight Nick made the first flight in Joe Cooper's Lightning and Joe was on hand to witness the event. I had flown earlier that day with Joe in the left seat of 31BZ and he is anxious to climb in his own cockpit to see how much better the Lightning really is. Another neat thing about Wednesday was that two Lightnings that had previously "flown the coop" returned to "home plate". Earl Ferguson and John Davis both flew back to SYI for a visit. Earl flew some demo flights in his soon to be "record setter" (ask Earl what that means). And John's "red, white, and blue patriotic Lightning" is absolutely beautiful, but I have to ask John where he got that short "dorky looking" prop; in a box of Cracker Jacks maybe? Saturday (3 March) was another EAA fly-in breakfast, this time at Winchester, Tennessee. Three aircraft made the hop to BGF from SYI. Pete flew the Jabiru 170 with Joe Mathias flying as co-pilot, Ben was in the Jab 250 with Linda Mathias, and I took Joe and Linda's (N59JL) on it's first cross country. The winds were forecast to be high all day in this part of Tennessee, and the weather guessers were right. When we got back to SYI we had a direct cross wind of 17 knots with gusts close to 30. I must admit I was concerned, being in a new airplane, but the Lightning handled the cross wind with no problem. The afternoon was spent fitting gear leg fairings and wheel pants to N59JL since the winds prevented effective test flying. Sunday morning I put another 1.2 hours on Linda and Joe's Lightning in order to reach a total of 5 hours so that we could do the initial head torque. After that Linda and I flew one last flight in my Esqual with her in the left seat and doing all the flying. She handled the cross wind well and felt ready to fly her Lightning so she did just that, flying for an hour. While Linda was airborne, Mark and I took 31BZ up for more transition training for him. Mark flew some loose formation with Linda for a while in order to check her airspeed indications. Overall a full, fun day. Linda's landing was superb, so congratulations are in order for her initial solo in an airplane she built. And it is a beautiful example of the Lightning. A few other observations: -The new Lightning Demonstrator is back from the paint shop and it is going to be a super aircraft. It will have a great panel layout with an impressive dual screen Grand Rapids EFIS set up. It should fly in a few weeks. Look for this new Demonstrator Lightning at Sun-N-Fun where it will be doing triple duty - in the display booth, in the fly-by pattern, and flying demo rides for potential customers. Speaking of SNF, so far it looks like at least five Lightnings will be there (plus 31BZ). I am sure we will have some sort of get together while there, so make your plans now to attend. Lets make it a real "Lightning Storm". -The Prototype Lightning will be testing a new prop to try in the near future. Nick has been running it with a ground adjustable carbon fiber Sensenich set to a pitch of 56 inches and the engine will still turn up at least 3400 RPM. Nick mounted a new Sensenich wooden 64ZK58 on Saturday and will be trying it out this Monday if winds and weather allow. Stand by for a "sonic boom" as Nick starts testing the Lightning with this prop. Nick will provide actual test results when available. -The Jabiru hangar (next to Lightning) is full of Jabiru aircraft in various stages of completion. If you want a "turn key" Special Light Sport Aircraft that will run circles around a Cessna 172, a Piper Cherokee, or certainly any LSA, take a look at the Jabiru 250. I am lucky enough to have flown the Jabiru 170, 250 and 400, and all are impressive. Talk to Ben about a test flight in one of these unique airplanes, but do it soon - they build one a week and they are sold out until sometime in June. -Final thoughts: It never ceases to amaze me at the overall value and capability that the Lightning represents. If you want a truly beautiful kit built aircraft that is relatively inexpensive (compared to other aircraft with similar performance), quick to build, and has amazing performance while being extremely economical to operate, you absolutely have to seriously consider the Lightning. You will not be disappointed. And remember, it can also be built to meet the Light Sport requirements. Also, if you are in a real hurry to get in the air, sign up for their builder's assist program. With their expert help and guidance, you will soon be flying an aircraft of your own creation. That is certainly a rewarding experience. Another observation is that the quality of the finished product when using the builders assist program, is absolutely superb. All of the Lightnings built here that I have seen (and I think I have seen them all) could easily be called "show quality". They will get lots of attention at any EAA fly-in. If you don't win a trophy it may be because the Judges asked you "How long did it take you to build your airplane?" They may not believe you. -Heck, I want a Lightning. Anyone want to buy a fast Esqual? Blue Skies, Buz Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out mo615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com" l?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom" target="_blank">AOL.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">h ttp://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 05:35:42 AM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM
    Subject: Lightnings in cross winds
    Buz brought up cross wind landings in the last set of messages. Very timely. March came in with a bang last week. I went flying Saturday with Barry Grant who is interested in a Lightning, and we picked the worst wind conditions I've had with this new airplane. Bumpy air up to 7500', Landing conditions at 17 to 18K with gusts to 25 and wind directions variable. Four landings and TOs at 3 airports. Every time I picked a runway based on the current wind direction, it changed to a 90 deg cross wind by the time I lifted off. The bottom line: In none of the takeoffs or landings did I run out of aileron or rudder. It is safe to say that I have a demonstrated cross wind capability of 18+K at or near max gross. Performance at lower weights was about the same. I do have a recommendation for takeoffs in gusty wind conditions. Hold on the runway until you have about 5K+/- over normal lift-off. Then use the extra airspeed to climb quickly to 20-30 feet above the runway to avoid being set back down by a gust. Note that these are observations for my airplane, in LSA configuration with vortex generators. Your airplane will be different, and you should do your own testing. All disclaimers apply. Earl Ferguson N17EF Atlanta <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 11:33:43 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Wullaert" <ron.wullaert@telenet.be>
    Subject: A trip to "Lightning Operations"
    Buz I'm a huge Lightning fan living in Belgium. I've been following the Lighting list for almost a year now and I must say, It's because of reports like yours that I get more and more attracted to this great flying machine. I will be traveling to the US for a business trip in April. I've made some changes to my plans to be a few days earlier in the US so that I can visit you guys at Sun-N-Fun. Looking forward to it already! Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich@aol.com Sent: maandag 5 maart 2007 4:29 Subject: Lightning-List: A trip to "Lightning Operations" Hello to all Lightning pilots, builders, and fans, Hopefully this "rather long" trip report will generate some more message traffic about the Lightning. I hope so. Feel free to inject your thoughts, ideas, suggestions, or questions. Someone on the list will probably have the answers. Here goes: I just spent another ten days with the Lightning guys in Tennessee and thought I would post a few thoughts and observations. The purpose of my trip from Virginia to Shelbyville was twofold. First, my Jabiru 3300 powered Esqual LS (Lightning Stuff) now has 250 hours on it (in the last 14 months) and I needed to do some time phased preventative engine maintenance. More on that later. The second reason for the trip was to help Joe and Linda Mathias (good friends from Virginia) with the initial test flights on their Lightning and also help them with some of the detail things like gear leg fairings and wheel pants. The trip out here Friday a week ago was one of the roughest rides I have had in a light airplane. I bumped all the way across Virginia and the eastern half of Tennessee and at times saw winds as high as 80 mph (about 30 degrees off the nose) and an effective head wind of almost 50 mph. Luckily, the winds changed to mostly cross winds as I got further into Tennessee, so I was able make up some time and get my average speed up some. As I usually do, I made the trip non stop, but it took 4.2 hours due to the head winds. I still managed to average 130 mph block to block, but I normally can make the trip in 3.3 hours with a block to block speed close to 170. Fuel burn for this trip was about 6 gph - slightly higher that I normally burn, but I kept trying different altitudes with hopes of finding less head winds and smoother air. No luck. Saturday morning (24 Feb) the Lightning and Jabiru aircraft guys attended an EAA fly-in here at Shelbyville. Yes, we took off from here and then "flew-in". Nick in the prototype Lightning, Pete in a new Special Light Sport Jabiru, and me in 31BZ, flew some formation before landing for another great EAA breakfast. The ramp was full and the food was great, so it was a good fly-in. Saturday afternoon Pete helped me do yet another head torque and valve adjustment (not a requirement for those of you that have the new hydraulic lifter engines). We also replaced the distributor caps and rotors, put on new plug wires, and set the gap between the flywheel magnets and ignition coils. Note: the distributor caps and rotors are time replacement items which I should have done at 200 hours. One other thing we did was to check my engine serial number against the Jabiru Service Bulletin having to do with the flywheel bolts. Luckily my engine serial number (843) did not require the procedures called out in the SB. Sunday was spent doing a few other maintenance and clean up items on 31BZ while Pete flew some more time off another SLA Jabiru. Believe it or not, Pete and Ben (with family members) went to a Circus here in Shelbyville Sunday afternoon. You would think they would have had their fill of dealing with us "Clowns" on a daily basis. Monday was a big event as Nick made a first flight in Rick Bowen's Lightning which flew beautifully with no airframe corrections required. I happened to be airborne flying some demo flights at the time and was able to get a close up view of Rick's "jet" in flight. Unfortunately, I did not have a camera with me, but it is another beautiful Lightning. Tuesday's big event was Linda and Joe's airworthiness inspection by the local FAA DAR. The inspection went well - as do all of the inspections in Shelbyville because the Lightning and Jabiru guys know their stuff and have a great reputation with the FAA. I am always impressed as to how "on top of things" the Tennessee gang is. If you have any kind of "tool skills" and will listen to their guidance, you will end up with a fantastic airplane. Wednesday was probably a first for the Arion Aircraft group as two Lightnings made their first flights on the same day. Linda and Joe trusted me enough to give me the honor of making the first flight in their "Lightning Bug" (N59JL) and it flew beautifully. Linda will take over the test flying duties soon. Shortly after that flight Nick made the first flight in Joe Cooper's Lightning and Joe was on hand to witness the event. I had flown earlier that day with Joe in the left seat of 31BZ and he is anxious to climb in his own cockpit to see how much better the Lightning really is. Another neat thing about Wednesday was that two Lightnings that had previously "flown the coop" returned to "home plate". Earl Ferguson and John Davis both flew back to SYI for a visit. Earl flew some demo flights in his soon to be "record setter" (ask Earl what that means). And John's "red, white, and blue patriotic Lightning" is absolutely beautiful, but I have to ask John where he got that short "dorky looking" prop; in a box of Cracker Jacks maybe? Saturday (3 March) was another EAA fly-in breakfast, this time at Winchester, Tennessee. Three aircraft made the hop to BGF from SYI. Pete flew the Jabiru 170 with Joe Mathias flying as co-pilot, Ben was in the Jab 250 with Linda Mathias, and I took Joe and Linda's (N59JL) on it's first cross country. The winds were forecast to be high all day in this part of Tennessee, and the weather guessers were right. When we got back to SYI we had a direct cross wind of 17 knots with gusts close to 30. I must admit I was concerned, being in a new airplane, but the Lightning handled the cross wind with no problem. The afternoon was spent fitting gear leg fairings and wheel pants to N59JL since the winds prevented effective test flying. Sunday morning I put another 1.2 hours on Linda and Joe's Lightning in order to reach a total of 5 hours so that we could do the initial head torque. After that Linda and I flew one last flight in my Esqual with her in the left seat and doing all the flying. She handled the cross wind well and felt ready to fly her Lightning so she did just that, flying for an hour. While Linda was airborne, Mark and I took 31BZ up for more transition training for him. Mark flew some loose formation with Linda for a while in order to check her airspeed indications. Overall a full, fun day. Linda's landing was superb, so congratulations are in order for her initial solo in an airplane she built. And it is a beautiful example of the Lightning. A few other observations: -The new Lightning Demonstrator is back from the paint shop and it is going to be a super aircraft. It will have a great panel layout with an impressive dual screen Grand Rapids EFIS set up. It should fly in a few weeks. Look for this new Demonstrator Lightning at Sun-N-Fun where it will be doing triple duty - in the display booth, in the fly-by pattern, and flying demo rides for potential customers. Speaking of SNF, so far it looks like at least five Lightnings will be there (plus 31BZ). I am sure we will have some sort of get together while there, so make your plans now to attend. Lets make it a real "Lightning Storm". -The Prototype Lightning will be testing a new prop to try in the near future. Nick has been running it with a ground adjustable carbon fiber Sensenich set to a pitch of 56 inches and the engine will still turn up at least 3400 RPM. Nick mounted a new Sensenich wooden 64ZK58 on Saturday and will be trying it out this Monday if winds and weather allow. Stand by for a "sonic boom" as Nick starts testing the Lightning with this prop. Nick will provide actual test results when available. -The Jabiru hangar (next to Lightning) is full of Jabiru aircraft in various stages of completion. If you want a "turn key" Special Light Sport Aircraft that will run circles around a Cessna 172, a Piper Cherokee, or certainly any LSA, take a look at the Jabiru 250. I am lucky enough to have flown the Jabiru 170, 250 and 400, and all are impressive. Talk to Ben about a test flight in one of these unique airplanes, but do it soon - they build one a week and they are sold out until sometime in June. -Final thoughts: It never ceases to amaze me at the overall value and capability that the Lightning represents. If you want a truly beautiful kit built aircraft that is relatively inexpensive (compared to other aircraft with similar performance), quick to build, and has amazing performance while being extremely economical to operate, you absolutely have to seriously consider the Lightning. You will not be disappointed. And remember, it can also be built to meet the Light Sport requirements. Also, if you are in a real hurry to get in the air, sign up for their builder's assist program. With their expert help and guidance, you will soon be flying an aircraft of your own creation. That is certainly a rewarding experience. Another observation is that the quality of the finished product when using the builders assist program, is absolutely superb. All of the Lightnings built here that I have seen (and I think I have seen them all) could easily be called "show quality". They will get lots of attention at any EAA fly-in. If you don't win a trophy it may be because the Judges asked you "How long did it take you to build your airplane?" They may not believe you. -Heck, I want a Lightning. Anyone want to buy a fast Esqual? Blue Skies, Buz Rich _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out mo615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com" l?red ir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom" target="_blank">AOL.com.


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    Time: 12:55:15 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: A trip to "Lightning Operations"
    <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 01:05:21 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: A trip to "Lightning Operations"
    Hi Ron, Great to hear that you will be at Sun-N-Fun. I look forward to meeting you there. I will probably fly down a day or so early and be there for most, if not all, of the show. You are right about the Lightning being a great flying machine. The Guys in Tennessee have come up with a great combination of airplane and engine. The Lightning and Jabiru 3300 together have the kind of a synergistic effect where the sum of the parts is more than the individual parts when taken separately. From the Lightnings beautiful lines, to it's fantastic performance on such a low fuel burn, it is hard to not love it. Add to that the economical kit cost and the quick build time and you have an unbeatable combination. Ask anyone that has flown one and you will probably get a big smile, then they will probably have a hard time coming up with the words to describe how much they enjoy the airplane. "Wow" seems to fit. Blue Skies, Buz Rich <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 01:07:56 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Back in Virginia
    Just to follow up on my recent trip report, I delayed my return trip to Virginia yesterday due to forecast direct cross winds of 20+ gusting to 30+ at my home airport. It gave me more time to fly some additional demo rides at SYI. I made the trip today even though the winds were about the same except that they were more aligned with the runway - only about 30 degrees off. I was expecting some great tailwinds since I had such high head winds going to Tennessee. Well, it didn't happen. I tried 5,500, 7,500, 9,500, and finally 11,500 and even though I saw winds as high at 94 it was all a direct cross at altitude. The only tail wind component I ever say was 4 on the tail and that was intermittent. I somehow must have angered the person in charge of winds at altitude. Well, at least it wasn't a head wind. Block to block speed was 168 mph burning 5.5 gph. You have got to like that 3300 Jabiru on a "slick" airframe. Great economy. I will also pass on the latest on Linda and Joe's Lightning since they are still in Tennessee without their computer. When I left this morning they had 10 hours on their airplane and everything is working as intended on the engine and airframe. They are having some problems with the Chelton EFIS, but that is apparently due to a bad "air data computer" which will soon be replaced. Linda is now doing all the test flying and she and Joe have done two head torques on their engine. When it is not in the air, they are busy fitting gear leg fairings and wheel pants. Both of these projects are very time consuming but well worth the effort in terms of increased airspeed, and lower drag profile. The Lightning guys have the latest design pressure relief "coke bottle" style wheel pants and those, combined with gear leg fairings, added about 20 mph to my airplane, so the Lightning should see the same or more. Maybe this is the time to inject a few more thoughts on building an airplane and using a builders assist program. None of the below are based on specific situations I saw at SYI, just the potential for homebuilders to possibly get in over their head: -Thought # 1 - It is going to be your "baby" so make it like you want it. Add any and all "whiz bang" equipment you want so it makes you happy. However, talk it over with someone who has tried the equipment and see if they are happy with it. Also talk it over with the SYI guys. Will it be compatible with the airplane you are building? Do you really want to put floats on a lunar lander? If you don't have the expertise to do it yourself, will they be able to do it for you? At what additional cost? Etc., etc. -Thought # 2 - The KISS principle is just as important today as it has ever been. In the long run, keeping things simple will result in less problems building and probably less maintenance headaches in the future. -Thought # 3 - If you are using a builders assist program that program was designed to get you safely into an airplane that meets the Experimental Homebuilt rules - where you must be involved in 51% of the processes required to build the airplane. The assist program is also designed towards a basic airplane. If you start adding those "whiz bang" parts I mentioned above, you are adding to the time it takes to complete the airplane and possibly causing scheduling problems for the "assistors". As I said, these are just some thoughts that came to mind while "heading east" at 11,500 today. Maybe I was oxygen starved, but maybe there is a "pearl" in there somewhere. Just my $.02. Your mileage may vary. Blue Skies, Buz <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 01:38:50 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Whittingham" <dashvii@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Back in Virginia
    Buz, GLad that you made it back safe and sound. Winds were really kicking on Wednesday when I was there. Did Nick manage to get the old spinner to work on Rick's plane or did he just replace it all together. Looking forward to flying the plane more when I get back in a few days. It is beautiful here in Houston. Been watching a pair of F-16's patrolling the city and several T-38's training. Also saw some Navy trainers and Coast Guard choppers. Brian W. From: N1BZRich@aol.com Subject: Lightning-List: Back in Virginia Just to follow up on my recent trip report, I delayed my return trip to Virginia yesterday due to forecast direct cross winds of 20+ gusting to 30+ at my home airport. It gave me more time to fly some additional demo rides at SYI. I made the trip today even though the winds were about the same except that they were more aligned with the runway - only about 30 degrees off. I was expecting some great tailwinds since I had such high head winds going to Tennessee. Well, it didn't happen. I tried 5,500, 7,500, 9,500, and finally 11,500 and even though I saw winds as high at 94 it was all a direct cross at altitude. The only tail wind component I ever say was 4 on the tail and that was intermittent. I somehow must have angered the person in charge of winds at altitude. Well, at least it wasn't a head wind. Block to block speed was 168 mph burning 5.5 gph. You have got to like that 3300 Jabiru on a "slick" airframe. Great economy. I will also pass on the latest on Linda and Joe's Lightning since they are still in Tennessee without their computer. When I left this morning they had 10 hours on their airplane and everything is working as intended on the engine and airframe. They are having some problems with the Chelton EFIS, but that is apparently due to a bad "air data computer" which will soon be replaced. Linda is now doing all the test flying and she and Joe have done two head torques on their engine. When it is not in the air, they are busy fitting gear leg fairings and wheel pants. Both of these projects are very time consuming but well worth the effort in terms of increased airspeed, and lower drag profile. The Lightning guys have the latest design pressure relief "coke bottle" style wheel pants and those, combined with gear leg fairings, added about 20 mph to my airplane, so the Lightning should see the same or more. Maybe this is the time to inject a few more thoughts on building an airplane and using a builders assist program. None of the below are based on specific situations I saw at SYI, just the potential for homebuilders to possibly get in over their head: -Thought # 1 - It is going to be your "baby" so make it like you want it. Add any and all "whiz bang" equipment you want so it makes you happy. However, talk it over with someone who has tried the equipment and see if they are happy with it. Also talk it over with the SYI guys. Will it be compatible with the airplane you are building? Do you really want to put floats on a lunar lander? If you don't have the expertise to do it yourself, will they be able to do it for you? At what additional cost? Etc., etc. -Thought # 2 - The KISS principle is just as important today as it has ever been. In the long run, keeping things simple will result in less problems building and probably less maintenance headaches in the future. -Thought # 3 - If you are using a builders assist program that program was designed to get you safely into an airplane that meets the Experimental Homebuilt rules - where you must be involved in 51% of the processes required to build the airplane. The assist program is also designed towards a basic airplane. If you start adding those "whiz bang" parts I mentioned above, you are adding to the time it takes to complete the airplane and possibly causing scheduling problems for the "assistors". As I said, these are just some thoughts that came to mind while "heading east" at 11,500 today. Maybe I was oxygen starved, but maybe there is a "pearl" in there somewhere. Just my $.02. Your mileage may vary. Blue Skies, Buz <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Win a Zunemake MSN your homepage for your chance to win! http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline


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    Time: 06:04:08 PM PST US
    From: "Tex Mantell" <wb2ssj@earthlink.net>
    Subject: fiberglass parts
    Nick, just received the parts,thanks for the quick response. The quality of the fiberglass is really first class. Panel and pans dropped right in and require very little trim. Thanks again TEX


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    Time: 06:09:01 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Back in Virginia
    Hi Brian, I think the plan is to put a new spinner on Rick's airplane. When I left at mid morning today, I am pretty sure the old spinner was already removed and a new one being fit. Buz <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.




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