---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/13/07: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:00 AM - Re: No show (Colleen Keen) 2. 02:37 AM - Lightning-List (Ian Miller) 3. 04:06 AM - Re: Blank emails (Dennis Borchardt) 4. 04:23 AM - Re: Incredible Day at Green Landings (Kayberg@AOL.COM) 5. 07:46 AM - New seat pans... (nick otterback) 6. 01:17 PM - Re: Re: Blank emails (Laurie Hoffman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:00:06 AM PST US From: "Colleen Keen" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: No show Blank here to, but it does give a sense of mystery ! BK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fry" Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: Lightning-List: No show > > Dennis, I am not getting anything either. Your last post was 38KB in > size, but the page was blank. > > Bill > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:48 AM PST US From: Ian Miller Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning-List Dennis Your e-mails direct to me arrived fine - it's the ones through the Lightning-list that have been blank, if that helps. Ian ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:44 AM PST US From: "Dennis Borchardt" Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Blank emails ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:06 AM PST US From: Kayberg@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Incredible Day at Green Landings Jim, There is more seat and headroom to be had than in our demonstrator. It is the old style seat pans that were modified by me, but there is more room there. I havent talked to Ryan yet, but if you were in the passenger seat there was less yet. It is still the old style console and not the dished seat pa ns. We have done little to the demo plane beyond getting it flying because of the backed up build projects of both SkyRangers and Lightnings. After the two current ones are finished, we may be able to do some modifyin g and give you another run at it. Doug Koenigsberg In a message dated 3/12/2007 11:09:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pequeajim@gmail.com writes: Boy Buzz It would have to be at least three or so inches wider for me to be comfortable. I wish there was one close where I could try it. I=99m ready to pull the trigger on an aircraft. ____________________________________ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich@aol .com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Incredible Day at Green Landings Jim, Don't give up just yet. The latest kits give more head room and more hip room. Nick designed a new molded seat pan to give more head room and narro wed the center console for the extra hip width. I am 6'2" and 215 to 225 depending on the time of the year. (I seem to gain weight in the winter ev en though I really don't hibernate.) And if you haven't met John Davis, he is a big boy, and seems to have no problems. So bottom line is: You really need to sit in one of the new Lightnings. The soon to be completed demonstrator wi ll have the new seat set up. See it at Sun-N-Fun. For those of you with the older seat set up, you can order an upgrade "seat kit" from the SYI guys. Buz


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:20 AM PST US From: nick otterback Subject: Lightning-List: New seat pans... I would incourage anyone who has flown the lightning with the "first Go at it" seat pans to try on for size the new ones, we worked hard to make the console much narrower and the pans deeper. All who have have had much good to say about them, So please come check them out at Sun n Fun if you dont get to before than... Nick Otterback m Langley wrote: Charles: Glad to hear that you like the aircraft so much. Ryan was just coming back from giving me a demo. What a nice flying airplane! Unlike you though, I was depressed after my flight. It was because I like the airplane so much but just do not quite fit like I would like. I'm 6'1" with a torso of a 6'4" guy and shoulders like a linebacker, so I had to tilt my head slightly to keep from resting it against the canopy glass. I will say that the Lightning is very easy to fly but responsive too. Nice aircraft. The 3300 got us off the runway in short order with me sitting in there at 265 lbs, no problem. Guys, you have a very nice aircraft. I just wish it was about 3-4" wider up top. Best of luck to you Charles, you're gonna love it! Jim! -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Dewey Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Incredible Day at Green Landings Hi everybody, Update on my big day: Although I bought a Lightning kit and have been in the build process for quite a while now, I never had seen the Lightning fly and have never flown one. I based my purchase on blind trust, something rare these days. I had a really good feeling about the plane's capabilities and was also heavily sold on the BRS parachute capability, cruise speed and fuel economy. The prototype couldn't carry passengers when I was airplane shopping last year, and I missed hte fly-by at Sun n Fun last year. While waiting for Ryan Gross (owner of Green Landings) to return to the grass strip at Green Landings (he had gone to another airport to give a demo ride), I heard a plane in the distance. By the looks of the tail, it appeared to be a Cessna. As it got closer, it got much faster and I realized it was Ryan in the Green Landings Lightning. From the ground, I was blown away by the aerial maneuvers, speed and handling of the plane. 90 degress banks looked split second and rolls looked like they only took a second. Ryan then did a high-speed fly by at an incredible clip. I kept thinking the whole time "Is this plane really doing all this on only 125 Horsepower?!". The plane far exceeds my expectations of what I expected. Not only am I getting a safe plane with a parachute, I am getting a fast and fuel efficient plane. One new adjective to describe what I am getting is aerobatic. This word was never in my vocabulary when shopping for a plane. It adds tremendous value to the plane. I kept thinking that the Lightning looked like an Extra 300 by the way it was flying. I knew it would have some aerobatic capabilities but I never expected to be comparing it to an Extra. The workmanship on my plane currently in construction is absolutely top notch. I recommend Green Landings to any future Lightning owners. Just so you know- THIS IS AN UNSOLICITED ENDORSEMNT- I was not asked by Green Landings to make this posting and I am not on anybody's payroll relevant to the Lightning aircraft. By the way, I did fly with Ryan after he landed, and we did some of the smae maneuvers. I did only one roll in my life and that was in a Glasair III. The Lightning rolls much faster. I haven't done any flying since August so I really couldn't stomach the G forces, so we had to come down. ALl in all, a great day. Oh, by the way, I was amazed at how well the Lightning does on grass WITH the wheel fairings- something I thought wouldn't work well at all. Can't wait to be flying my Own Lightning and spread the fun around. Charles --- nick otterback wrote: > Brian should be ready... working out a spinnenr > balance issue wll let you know before i leave. > > Nick > > Brian Whittingham wrote: > Whittingham" > > Nick, or other guys in the know, > I'm back in town now and ready to work on flying the > time off of Rick's > plane. I can be down there tomorrow if the plane is > ready, got the bugs > worked out, etc. I don't want to drive an hour and a > half though if you > guys are doing a head torque or something. Let me > know. Brian Whittingham > > > From: "Rick Bowen" > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning desktop model... > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:01:00 +0000 > > Well, > I am not going to tell you that you may find a > cheaper source for the > desktop models, but here is a pic of a Titan that > Bill did.....looks pretty > good to me. > > If anyone is still interested, I need ONE more > person to commit to ordering > a Lightning...Bill is located in Noth Carolina, is a > fellow pilot, and I > think would make us some nice Lightning models. > > Up to you guys, I do not want to start a "we can get > a desktop here, or > here,"etc....Just did a bit of looking and thought I > would pass it on. > Again, I have never done any business with him, but > I will get a model too > if we can get the needed 5. > > Thanks all, > Rick > > _________________________________________________________________ > The average US Credit Score is 675. 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Games. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:19 PM PST US From: Laurie Hoffman Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: Blank emails Sorry Dennis, I know you must be frustrated with your email problem, but I had to laugh when I opened your last email entitled 'Blank Emails' very hopefully (as I'm sure everyone else did) only to find a blank email! Laurie --- Dennis Borchardt wrote: > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! 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