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1. 11:39 AM - Re: Grass Landing Strip- Distance Required? (Charles Dewey)
2. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: Grass Landing Strip- Distance Required? (Hugh Sontag)
3. 12:13 PM - Re:Grass Landing Strip - How do you make and maintain? (Charles Dewey)
4. 12:35 PM - Re: Re: Grass Landing Strip- Distance Required? (Pete)
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| Subject: | RE: Grass Landing Strip- Distance Required? |
Hi all,
Do you any pros out there know how many feet are
required for a grass landing strip for a Lightning
(not LSA)? I have a friend who has a 600' strip that
has almost no obstruction on one side, and am trying
to figure out if safe landings and take-offs can be
made there. Charles
--- Daniel DW <ddw55@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <ddw55@hotmail.com>
>
> Pete,
>
> you are right, not in Europe ...
> I thought that a certificate was required in the USA
> under "14 CFR Part 36
> Appendix G"???
> If this is not required in the USA it is unlikely
> that I will find a similar
> configuration somewhere else.
>
> Thanks for your reply and have a great weekend.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> >From: "Pete" <pete@flylightning.net>
> >To: <lightning-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Noise certificate
> >Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:02:44 -0500
> >
> <pete@flylightning.net>
> >
> >Daniel,
> >
> >I don't know of another Esqual with that prop
> flying in Europe. There are
> >a
> >few in the USA but no certificate is required.
> >
> >Pete
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Daniel DW
> >Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 3:42 PM
> >To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Lightning-List: Noise certificate
> >
> <ddw55@hotmail.com>
> >
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >I'm looking for a copy of a noise certificate,
> issued for an Esqual with a
> >Jabiru 3300 engine and a Sensenich W64ZK-51 prop.
> >This copy would simplify things a lot for me here
> in Europe.
> >
> >
> >Thanks and best regards
> >
> >Daniel
> >PH-DWD, ready to fly but missing a noise
> certificate ....
> >
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Grass Landing Strip- Distance Required? |
I have a Titan Tornado II which stalls clean at 40 mph. With flaps
the stall speed is about 35 mph.
I wouldn't consider attempting to land on an arbitrary grass runway
shorter than 1000 feet, except for very special circumstances.
The Lightning stalls faster and has less drag.
The Lightning folks have said that although they would bring a
Lightning into the sun and fun grass strip (which is about 1400'
long), they would only do it with no passenger and lightly loaded.
I'll bet they'll tell you that anything shorter than 1500' is
probably not safe.
Hugh Sontag
>
>Hi all,
> Do you any pros out there know how many feet are
>required for a grass landing strip for a Lightning
>(not LSA)? I have a friend who has a 600' strip that
>has almost no obstruction on one side, and am trying
>to figure out if safe landings and take-offs can be
>made there. Charles
>
>--- Daniel DW <ddw55@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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| Subject: | Re:Grass Landing Strip - How do you make and maintain? |
Does anyone out there know how to create a grass
landing strip out of what is currently just a wild
grass field? Charles
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> 1. 07:36 AM - How 'ya doing Brian? (Rick
> Bowen)
> 2. 08:16 AM - Re: How 'ya doing Brian? (Brian
> Whittingham)
> 3. 01:42 PM - Noise certificate (Daniel DW)
> 4. 02:03 PM - Re: Noise certificate (Pete)
> 5. 02:23 PM - Re: Noise certificate (Daniel
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> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 07:36:20 AM PST US
> From: "Rick Bowen" <rollnloop@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Lightning-List: How 'ya doing Brian?
>
>
> Just checking to see if you are still in Houston, or
> if you got back yet?
> Any news at all?
> I miss reports....... 8-)
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> Talk to 'ya,
> Rick
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> Time: 08:16:04 AM PST US
> From: "Brian Whittingham" <dashvii@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: How 'ya doing Brian?
>
>
> Rick,
> I'm still in Houston at the moment, will get back
> on Sunday. Will
> probably try to fly on Monday and/or Tuesday,
> weather premitting. The rest
> of your interior was supposed to go in on Monday or
> Tuesday of this week.
> Anxious to see how that looks and now that your seat
> warmers are supposed to
> be installed, how those work. Nick was going to
> order some new carb jets
> and install those if they got there so that the fuel
> burn would get better
> and the top end would run smoothly. I got the plane
> back to about 46-47
> knots before it stalled in the clean configuration,
> but would like to do
> that again to get an exact number. It broke very
> lightly, straight ahead,
> and once the nose dropped to level it was at flying
> speed again. Nothing
> really new to report yet. The plane has about 7.5
> hours on it so far. The
> weather is looking like it could be bad some next
> week, but as soon as I get
> some clear days I'm planning on putting 5 hours on
> the plane per day. 15
> hours is the next head torque, and at that time Nick
> will probably trim the
> baffles a little more. I'm going to get him the
> CHT's in writing and which
> cylinders so that he can try to even it all out. So
> far things are going
> pretty well though. Will write more when I get back
> and have some new info.
> Brian W.
>
>
> From: "Rick Bowen" <rollnloop@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Lightning-List: How 'ya doing Brian?
>
>
> Just checking to see if you are still in Houston, or
> if you got back yet?
> Any news at all?
> I miss reports....... 8-)
>
> Talk to 'ya,
> Rick
>
>
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> Its tax season, make sure to follow these few simple
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>
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>
>
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> ________________________________ Message 3
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> Time: 01:42:06 PM PST US
> From: "Daniel DW" <ddw55@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Lightning-List: Noise certificate
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm looking for a copy of a noise certificate,
> issued for an Esqual with a
> Jabiru 3300 engine and a Sensenich W64ZK-51 prop.
> This copy would simplify things a lot for me here in
> Europe.
>
>
> Thanks and best regards
>
> Daniel
> PH-DWD, ready to fly but missing a noise certificate
> ....
>
>
_________________________________________________________________
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> wel in de vriendenlijst
> van je vrienden !
>
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>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:03:02 PM PST US
> From: "Pete" <pete@flylightning.net>
> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Noise certificate
>
>
> Daniel,
>
> I don't know of another Esqual with that prop flying
> in Europe. There are a
> few in the USA but no certificate is required.
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
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| Subject: | RE: Grass Landing Strip- Distance Required? |
I used to fly my Titan II / Jabiru 2200 into and out of a friend's 800 ft
strip all the time. No problems. The Titan will stall a bit slower than
the Lightning but does not land any slower because if you try to slow the
Titan to land close to stall speed it is in a nose high attitude where the
tail wheel will hit the ground when the mains are still a foot or more in
the air causing the aircraft to slam down on the mains as soon as the tail
hits. Touchdown speeds are actually about the same between the two
aircraft.
I would not advocate flying into a 600 ft strip, though, although it
probably could be done. Piloting skills would have to be top notch and any
little misjudgment would result in running off the end of the runway.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sontag
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: RE: Grass Landing Strip- Distance Required?
I have a Titan Tornado II which stalls clean at 40 mph. With flaps
the stall speed is about 35 mph.
I wouldn't consider attempting to land on an arbitrary grass runway
shorter than 1000 feet, except for very special circumstances.
The Lightning stalls faster and has less drag.
The Lightning folks have said that although they would bring a
Lightning into the sun and fun grass strip (which is about 1400'
long), they would only do it with no passenger and lightly loaded.
I'll bet they'll tell you that anything shorter than 1500' is
probably not safe.
Hugh Sontag
>
>Hi all,
> Do you any pros out there know how many feet are
>required for a grass landing strip for a Lightning
>(not LSA)? I have a friend who has a 600' strip that
>has almost no obstruction on one side, and am trying
>to figure out if safe landings and take-offs can be
>made there. Charles
>
>--- Daniel DW <ddw55@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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