---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/05/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:35 PM - Winglets or modified winglets? (pequeajim) 2. 05:48 PM - Re: Winglets or modified winglets? (Rick Bowen) 3. 06:42 PM - Re: Arion Lightning makes the news. (Johnny Thompson) 4. 07:20 PM - Re: Arion Lightning makes the news. (Jim Langley) 5. 07:37 PM - Re: Arion Lightning makes the news. (N1BZRich@AOL.COM) 6. 07:53 PM - Re: Winglets or modified winglets? (N1BZRich@AOL.COM) 7. 09:00 PM - Re: Winglets or modified winglets? (Jim Langley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:44 PM PST US Subject: Lightning-List: Winglets or modified winglets? From: "pequeajim" Has Arion considered using modified winglets on the Lightning? Would there be any advantages to doing this? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111068#111068 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:21 PM PST US From: "Rick Bowen" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Winglets or modified winglets? Lets just say it has been "discussed"... 8-) Rick N727RB >From: "pequeajim" >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Subject: Lightning-List: Winglets or modified winglets? >Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 17:35:27 -0700 > > >Has Arion considered using modified winglets on the Lightning? Would there >be any advantages to doing this? > _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:55 PM PST US From: "Johnny Thompson" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Arion Lightning makes the news. Lightning 8WN, Serial number 26. I have started my upholstery. I added a lot of weight between building seatbacks and all the avionics but what the heck, this is what I want. I have started changing the system to latch the canopy down, built 1-1/8" control sticks to fit my old Cobra grips. It will be full IFR, auto pilot GRT dual, and get this, sport pilot. I am at the point of no more medicals. Ready to install the canopy but I will modify the canopy frame first to fit the glass better. Any suggestions where to put the refrigerator? Johnny ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:39 PM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Arion Lightning makes the news. Pretty nice! _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Johnny Thompson Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Arion Lightning makes the news. Lightning 8WN, Serial number 26. I have started my upholstery. I added a lot of weight between building seatbacks and all the avionics but what the heck, this is what I want. I have started changing the system to latch the canopy down, built 1-1/8" control sticks to fit my old Cobra grips. It will be full IFR, auto pilot GRT dual, and get this, sport pilot. I am at the point of no more medicals. Ready to install the canopy but I will modify the canopy frame first to fit the glass better. Any suggestions where to put the refrigerator? Johnny ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:05 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Arion Lightning makes the news. Hey Johnny, I like the look of the high back seats. And yes, build it like you want it. Blue Skies, Buz Rich ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:08 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Winglets or modified winglets? Jim, Interesting you should ask about winglets. Pete, Nick, and I spent some time discussing wing tip extensions (as well as other changes) while at SNF. Their fiber glass expert from Wisconsin (Rick Disher ?) was there as well and he, Pete, and I actually walked around looking at various examples of tip extensions - some with winglets. Rick took some photos of the Lancair and Toxo tips. He has a great eye and it will be interesting to see what he comes up with. The idea for tip extensions will be to lower the stall speed (without using VGs) for those wishing to fly with a sport pilot license. If the new tip can add about 5 square feet of wing area per side it should be no problem for Lightnings built to 1320 gross weight to easily make the 45 knot stall requirement. Blue Skies, Buz ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:32 PM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Winglets or modified winglets? Thanks for the info Buz. What do the winglets do for the top end? _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:53 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Winglets or modified winglets? Jim, Interesting you should ask about winglets. Pete, Nick, and I spent some time discussing wing tip extensions (as well as other changes) while at SNF. Their fiber glass expert from Wisconsin (Rick Disher ?) was there as well and he, Pete, and I actually walked around looking at various examples of tip extensions - some with winglets. Rick took some photos of the Lancair and Toxo tips. He has a great eye and it will be interesting to see what he comes up with. The idea for tip extensions will be to lower the stall speed (without using VGs) for those wishing to fly with a sport pilot license. If the new tip can add about 5 square feet of wing area per side it should be no problem for Lightnings built to 1320 gross weight to easily make the 45 knot stall requirement. 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