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1. 12:18 AM - Enigma (Jon Boon Durr)
2. 12:32 AM - Re: sunglasses with LCD (Lightning Aircraft Australia)
3. 12:40 AM - Re: sunglasses with LCD (steve)
4. 07:31 AM - Re: Aluminum Spinners For Lightning. (Ernie Pritchard)
5. 07:42 AM - Re: Aluminum Spinners For Lightning. (nick otterback)
6. 07:57 AM - Re: Aluminum Spinners For Lightning. (John Davis)
7. 10:59 AM - Re: Enigma (Jim Langley)
8. 04:50 PM - LSA compliant vs. not ()
9. 05:12 PM - Fw: LSA compliant vs. not ()
10. 05:40 PM - Re: Fw: LSA compliant vs. not (Hugh Sontag)
11. 06:46 PM - Re: Fw: LSA compliant vs. not (Bob Haas)
12. 07:41 PM - Re: EFIS (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
13. 08:05 PM - Re: Fw: LSA compliant vs. not (Hugh Sontag)
14. 08:18 PM - Re: LSA compliant vs. not (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
15. 08:59 PM - Re: EFIS (Peter and Jan Disher)
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Jim,
You may also want to at least have a look at / consider the Stratomaster
Engima EFIS / EMS / NAVIGATOR.
You can find information at these pages:
http://www.stratomaster.com/Enigma/
http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Enigmapage.html
http://www.sportflyingshop.com/Instr/Stratomaster/Enigma/enigma.html
Packs quite a punch for the price!
(from their web main page:)
a.. Low Weight: Under 3 lbs
a.. Low Current Draw: Less than 1 Amp @ 12 Volts
a.. Low Cost: Typical packages complete with attitude and heading sensors
less than $3,600
a.. High Screen brightness (800-1000 nits)
a.. High Reliability
a.. Higy Flexibility (any screen layout you want!)
a.. High Feature count (more instrument options available than most EFISs)
Boon
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| Subject: | Re: sunglasses with LCD |
Steve the person you are talking about is a Lightning owner.
Regards, Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: steve
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:15 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: sunglasses with LCD
Hi guys,
Just a note regarding Polarised sunglasses and LCD screens.
Quite often if you tilt your head from side to side whilst wearing
polarized sunglasses it will make the LCD screen come into view either
better or worse (try it on an LCD clock/radio display etc.)
Having said that, I did do a few hours last year behind a G1000 glass
cockpit and don't remember having any issues with not being able to see
them whilst wearing pol. sunglasses.
Oh, Charles.. not quite the same but there was an incident in
Australia a few years ago where a 'similar styled' canopy came off an
aircraft in flight (150kts) and I believe the turbulent airflow hitting
the blocked off baggage area put the aircraft into a spin. Thankfully,
the pilot recovered and made a forced landing. Not sure anyone would
want to try flying it without a canopy.
Regards,
Steve
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| Subject: | sunglasses with LCD |
Hi Dennis,
Yes, I know :-)
I just didn't want a) people to think it was a Lightning in any way and b)
identify him given that I don't know all the exact details of what actually
happened .
Ps. Any update on your builders-assist ?
Regards,
Steve
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lightning
Aircraft Australia
Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2007 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: sunglasses with LCD
Steve the person you are talking about is a Lightning owner.
Regards, Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: steve <mailto:steve997@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:15 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: sunglasses with LCD
Hi guys,
Just a note regarding Polarised sunglasses and LCD screens.
Quite often if you tilt your head from side to side whilst wearing polarized
sunglasses it will make the LCD screen come into view either better or worse
(try it on an LCD clock/radio display etc.)
Having said that, I did do a few hours last year behind a G1000 glass
cockpit and don't remember having any issues with not being able to see them
whilst wearing pol. sunglasses.
Oh, Charles.. not quite the same but there was an incident in Australia a
few years ago where a 'similar styled' canopy came off an aircraft in flight
(150kts) and I believe the turbulent airflow hitting the blocked off baggage
area put the aircraft into a spin. Thankfully, the pilot recovered and made
a forced landing. Not sure anyone would want to try flying it without a
canopy.
Regards,
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Spinners For Lightning. |
Hello Nick,
Could you e-mail me some close up pictures of your TrueTrak pitch
and roll servo installation.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: nick otterback
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Aluminum Spinners For Lightning.
To Group:
Some may have gotten this e-mail already , but to let everybody know;
The Aluminum spinners from Cummins are about 2 weeks away from being
ready.
They include spinner cone, back-plate, all hardware and are balanced.
They will be for sale for $425.00 from us or your dealer.
Just would like to get a general idea if any one else is interested, i
know of a few that are but let me know if you would like one fron your
lightning, or (esqual LS!) and what balde you are using, wood or
carbon...
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Spinners For Lightning. |
Sure can i will send today......thru info@flylightning i can send bigger photots
with that..
nick
Ernie Pritchard <ernie@epritchards.com> wrote:
Hello Nick,
Could you e-mail me some close up pictures of your TrueTrak pitch and roll
servo installation.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: nick otterback
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Aluminum Spinners For Lightning.
To Group:
Some may have gotten this e-mail already , but to let everybody know;
The Aluminum spinners from Cummins are about 2 weeks away from being ready.
They include spinner cone, back-plate, all hardware and are balanced.
They will be for sale for $425.00 from us or your dealer.
Just would like to get a general idea if any one else is interested, i know of
a few that are but let me know if you would like one fron your lightning, or
(esqual LS!) and what balde you are using, wood or carbon...
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft LLC
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| Subject: | Aluminum Spinners For Lightning. |
Nick I could use a set also.
John
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nick
otterback
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Aluminum Spinners For Lightning.
Sure can i will send today......thru info@flylightning i can send bigger
photots with that..
nick
Ernie Pritchard <ernie@epritchards.com> wrote:
Hello Nick,
Could you e-mail me some close up pictures of your TrueTrak pitch and
roll servo installation.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: nick otterback <mailto:vettin74@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Aluminum Spinners For Lightning.
To Group:
Some may have gotten this e-mail already , but to let everybody know;
The Aluminum spinners from Cummins are about 2 weeks away from being ready.
They include spinner cone, back-plate, all hardware and are balanced.
They will be for sale for $425.00
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Thanks for the tip!
I did take a look at their web site and the product has quite a lot to
offer, plus they are coming out with the 10" version in Spetember. They
expect to have a working prototype at Oshkosh.
I would be curious what the refresh rate is like when doing banks and rolls?
Jim!
On 5/29/07, Jon Boon Durr <boon@8x8.biz> wrote:
>
>
> Jim,
>
> You may also want to at least have a look at / consider the Stratomaster
> Engima EFIS / EMS / NAVIGATOR.
>
> You can find information at these pages:
>
> http://www.stratomaster.com/Enigma/
>
> http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Enigmapage.html
>
> http://www.sportflyingshop.com/Instr/Stratomaster/Enigma/enigma.html
>
> Packs quite a punch for the price!
>
>
> (from their web main page:)
> a.. Low Weight: Under 3 lbs
> a.. Low Current Draw: Less than 1 Amp @ 12 Volts
> a.. Low Cost: Typical packages complete with attitude and heading sensors
> less than $3,600
>
>
> a.. High Screen brightness (800-1000 nits)
> a.. High Reliability
> a.. Higy Flexibility (any screen layout you want!)
> a.. High Feature count (more instrument options available than most EFISs)
>
>
> Boon
>
>
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| Subject: | LSA compliant vs. not |
How late in the construction is it practical to make the decision on whether your
Ligtning will be LSA compliant or not?
I would think it would be just before you chose your propellor and needed to decide
to fit VGs rather than gear leg fairings and wheelpants. In other words,
right at the end.
Am I missing something?
Colin K.
OK
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| Subject: | LSA compliant vs. not |
Here's another one ......
If the original approval is based upon flight testing that shows the airplane to
exceed LSA limitations in speed, if it were later modified (prop, VGs etc.)
to be within LSA limitations, would it be legal for a Sport Pilot to fly it?
I am a private pilot with a medical, but I am trying to understand what my options
might be if one day I decide not to renew my medical and find myself with
an EAB aircraft that does not comply with LSA rules, but could.
Colin K.
OK
> From: <cjk129@cox.net>
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Lightning-List: LSA compliant vs. not
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:49:28 -0500
>
>
> How late in the construction is it practical to make the decision on whether
your Ligtning will be LSA compliant or not?
>
> I would think it would be just before you chose your propellor and needed to
decide to fit VGs rather than gear leg fairings and wheelpants. In other words,
right at the end.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Colin K.
> OK
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: LSA compliant vs. not |
The rule states:
'Light-sport aircraft' means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or
powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to
meet the... [stated requirements].
Put another way, any aircraft that, since its original certification,
did not meet the light-sport definition is not a light-sport aircraft.
Hugh Sontag
>
>Here's another one ......
>
>If the original approval is based upon flight testing that shows the
>airplane to exceed LSA limitations in speed, if it were later
>modified (prop, VGs etc.) to be within LSA limitations, would it be
>legal for a Sport Pilot to fly it?
>
>I am a private pilot with a medical, but I am trying to understand
>what my options might be if one day I decide not to renew my medical
>and find myself with an EAB aircraft that does not comply with LSA
>rules, but could.
>
>Colin K.
>OK
>
>> From: <cjk129@cox.net>
>> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Lightning-List: LSA compliant vs. not
>> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:49:28 -0500
>>
>>
>> How late in the construction is it practical to make the decision
>>on whether your Ligtning will be LSA compliant or not?
>>
>> I would think it would be just before you chose your propellor and
>>needed to decide to fit VGs rather than gear leg fairings and
>>wheelpants. In other words, right at the end.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> Colin K.
>> OK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | LSA compliant vs. not |
As I understand the current rules allow any Certified
Experimental Amateur Built Aircraft meeting the current speeds and weight
etc. for light sport Can be flown as a Light Sport Aircraft with a Pilots
Certificate, Biannual, and check ride. Bob Haas N 380HB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sontag
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Lightning-List: LSA compliant vs. not
The rule states:
'Light-sport aircraft' means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or
powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to
meet the... [stated requirements].
Put another way, any aircraft that, since its original certification,
did not meet the light-sport definition is not a light-sport aircraft.
Hugh Sontag
>
>Here's another one ......
>
>If the original approval is based upon flight testing that shows the
>airplane to exceed LSA limitations in speed, if it were later
>modified (prop, VGs etc.) to be within LSA limitations, would it be
>legal for a Sport Pilot to fly it?
>
>I am a private pilot with a medical, but I am trying to understand
>what my options might be if one day I decide not to renew my medical
>and find myself with an EAB aircraft that does not comply with LSA
>rules, but could.
>
>Colin K.
>OK
>
>> From: <cjk129@cox.net>
>> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Lightning-List: LSA compliant vs. not
>> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:49:28 -0500
>>
>>
>> How late in the construction is it practical to make the decision
>>on whether your Ligtning will be LSA compliant or not?
>>
>> I would think it would be just before you chose your propellor and
>>needed to decide to fit VGs rather than gear leg fairings and
>>wheelpants. In other words, right at the end.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> Colin K.
>> OK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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In a message dated 5/29/2007 1:38:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pjdisher@bigpond.com writes:
I would just like to say Buz, how much I've appreciated and enjoyed all
yours and Brian W. comments and evaluations on the Lightning
Hi Peter,
Darn, you mean someone actually reads all that stuff I have written?
Anyway, glad to be of help. I was fortunate enough to meet the Lightning guys
just over two years ago and I have thoroughly enjoyed that friendship since
then. They are all dedicated EAA members, aircraft builders, and of course
helping others to achieve their dreams to build and fly an airplane. Good
people, and because of them I have been able to fly several of the Lightnings
and all the Jabiru airplanes that they also build and sell.
Being from Australia maybe you can answer one of my questions. Since
you are in the "land down under" do you need an inverted airfoil to get your
airplanes to fly? Inquiring minds want to know.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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| Subject: | LSA compliant vs. not |
Don't forget that the Experimental Amateur Built Aircraft must have
met the definition of a Light-Sport Aircraft *since its original
certification*.
This means that if it *ever* had a variable-pitch prop or didn't meet
some other part of the definition, it is technically *never* eligible
to be flown as an LSA by a Sport Pilot.
You can read the rule here:
http://www.sportpilot.org/learn/index.html
Hugh Sontag
>
> As I understand the current rules allow any Certified
>Experimental Amateur Built Aircraft meeting the current speeds and weight
>etc. for light sport Can be flown as a Light Sport Aircraft with a Pilots
>Certificate, Biannual, and check ride. Bob Haas N 380HB
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sontag
>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:40 PM
>To: lightning-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Lightning-List: LSA compliant vs. not
>
>
>The rule states:
>
>'Light-sport aircraft' means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or
>powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to
>meet the... [stated requirements].
>
>Put another way, any aircraft that, since its original certification,
>did not meet the light-sport definition is not a light-sport aircraft.
>
>Hugh Sontag
>
>
>>
>>Here's another one ......
>>
>>If the original approval is based upon flight testing that shows the
>>airplane to exceed LSA limitations in speed, if it were later
>>modified (prop, VGs etc.) to be within LSA limitations, would it be
>>legal for a Sport Pilot to fly it?
>>
>>I am a private pilot with a medical, but I am trying to understand
>>what my options might be if one day I decide not to renew my medical
>>and find myself with an EAB aircraft that does not comply with LSA
>>rules, but could.
>>
>>Colin K.
>>OK
>>
>>> From: <cjk129@cox.net>
>>> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Lightning-List: LSA compliant vs. not
>>> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:49:28 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>> How late in the construction is it practical to make the decision
>>>on whether your Ligtning will be LSA compliant or not?
>>>
>>> I would think it would be just before you chose your propellor and
>>>needed to decide to fit VGs rather than gear leg fairings and
>>>wheelpants. In other words, right at the end.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something?
>>>
>>> Colin K.
>>> OK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: LSA compliant vs. not |
In a message dated 5/29/2007 7:51:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cjk129@cox.net writes:
Am I missing something?
Colin,
Don't forget the 1320 max gross weight requirement that should be on the
data plate and of course in the log book. The log book entry after your 40
hours are complete is where you document the stall speed and max continuous
rpm speed. Others have already mentioned no later change to meeting light
sport if you document something other than light sport compliant at first.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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Hi Buz,
Yes mate, What we do down here is simply swap the wings over
when we put them together.
Buz, for 25 years I had been looking for an a/c kit to buy and
out of the blue came "Lightning". so, sight unseen I just had to have
one, Is half built now and it's just looking better all the time.
No doubt about it, you guys contiued corespondence just
confirms I have made the right decision. I'm looking forward to the day
when when i'm rolling on 04 Taree.
Regards,
Peter Disher
----- Original Message -----
From: N1BZRich@aol.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: EFIS
In a message dated 5/29/2007 1:38:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pjdisher@bigpond.com writes:
I would just like to say Buz, how much I've appreciated and enjoyed
all yours and Brian W. comments and evaluations on the Lightning
Hi Peter,
Darn, you mean someone actually reads all that stuff I have
written? Anyway, glad to be of help. I was fortunate enough to meet
the Lightning guys just over two years ago and I have thoroughly enjoyed
that friendship since then. They are all dedicated EAA members,
aircraft builders, and of course helping others to achieve their dreams
to build and fly an airplane. Good people, and because of them I have
been able to fly several of the Lightnings and all the Jabiru airplanes
that they also build and sell.
Being from Australia maybe you can answer one of my questions.
Since you are in the "land down under" do you need an inverted airfoil
to get your airplanes to fly? Inquiring minds want to know.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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