Lightning-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/13/07


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 05:21 AM - Re: Flying to Mexico in the Lightning (EAFerguson@aol.com)
     2. 05:55 AM - Re: Re: Lightning World Record (EAFerguson@aol.com)
     3. 09:33 AM - Re: Taildraggers forever....... (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
     4. 09:58 AM - Re: Taildraggers forever....... (Jim Langley)
     5. 01:22 PM - Re: Playing (ryan gross)
     6. 03:36 PM - Re: To Earl (Charles Dewey)
     7. 03:56 PM - Re: Nick's Turbo edition (Charles Dewey)
     8. 04:15 PM - Re: Playing (Jim Langley)
     9. 04:19 PM - Re: Playing (Jim Langley)
    10. 04:57 PM - Re: Aviating in Virginia (rickss)
    11. 05:39 PM - Re: Taildraggers forever....... (Kayberg@aol.com)
    12. 06:14 PM - Re: Taildraggers forever....... (N1BZRich@aol.com)
    13. 06:18 PM - Re: Re: Aviating in Virginia (Jim Langley)
    14. 07:36 PM - Re: Taildraggers forever....... (Kayberg@aol.com)
    15. 07:49 PM - Re: Lightning World Record (Scotty)
    16. 08:06 PM - Re: Nick's Turbo edition (N1BZRich@aol.com)
    17. 08:06 PM - Re:Cancun trip (EAFerguson@aol.com)
    18. 08:20 PM - Tail draggers  (EAFerguson@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:21:33 AM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Flying to Mexico in the Lightning
    Yes, depending on the winds, but take a life raft. I'd look for a refuel point on one of the islands (not Cuba) to cut down the long overwater leg. I've done 400 nm legs in N17EF. Earl Ferguson http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 05:55:13 AM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Lightning World Record
    Scotty, Thanks. What is VSH aviating? http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 09:33:53 AM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Taildraggers forever.......
    Here is my input on the tail-dragger controversy (is it a controversy?) and some reasons why I think it would be a good move for a future Lightning design. Also, many potential customers have asked about a tail dragger Lightning. People prefer to fly tail-draggers for different reasons. Probably the largest group of tail-dragger fans would say that an airplane looks better without the nose wheel. Another group prefers them because of the slight performance improvement in cruise, top speed, lower empty weight, and grass runway or rough field operations. Still another group might want to fly them for nostalgic reasons (most vintage airplanes are T/W) or perhaps that it "shows" that they are better pilots because they can handle a tail-dragger. For example, have you ever heard someone say, "See that guy (or gal), they fly tail-draggers." Whereas, you will probably never hear someone impressively say, "That guy flys a Cherokee." Oh well, I probably belong to all the above groups. The last statement about being a tail-dragger pilot somehow making you a better pilot will probably get some peoples hackles up. That was not my intent, as I am sure that some folks that have never flown tail-draggers are great pilots. They just, up to this point, have not had or taken the opportunity to get current in conventional aircraft. And that is getting harder and harder to do in today's environment. It really is hard to find an instructor that can check you out. But once checked out and current in conventional gear airplanes, you will fly like a better pilot. How is that possible? Actually, I can usually tell if a person is tail-wheel qualified while they are taxing out, or for sure during the takeoff roll. On takeoff roll, by necessity, a tail-wheel pilot notices the need to make small heading corrections much sooner than a person who has not flown tail-wheels. Their eyes are accustomed to seeing the small deviations sooner - rather than later. A nose wheel airplane actually corrects itself to some degree on takeoff and landing roll out, where as a tail wheel airplane, needing a correction, will continue to need more and more of a correction. So the current tail wheel pilot sees that need sooner and makes the correction. I have seen nose wheel pilots let the nose swing as much as ten degrees before making a correction. Probably disaster in a tail wheel airplane. And that is why nose wheel airplanes were invented. They are easier to takeoff and land. They were designed for the weakest link. Yes, I threw that in for effect and to perhaps help you decide to go get a tail wheel endorsement. You will improve your piloting skill. And guess what, those skills will make you a better pilot in the air as well. If you are seeing smaller heading changes and making corrections quicker on the ground, you will also be doing the same in the air. Even your instrument flying will improve. Of course the down side, as Doug has mentioned (and Pete has in the past), is that tail dragger airplanes will probably cost more to insure - certainly until you log quite a bit of T/W time. But I think your overall enjoyment and increased piloting skills will be a big benefactor. And besides, it opens up a large number of vintage airplanes for you to have the chance to fly. As I said, this is just my $.02 worth, your mileage may vary. Blue Skies, Buz http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 09:58:44 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Taildraggers forever.......
    As always, well said Buz On 8/13/07, N1BZRich@aol.com <N1BZRich@aol.com> wrote: > > Here is my input on the tail-dragger controversy (is it a controversy?) > and some reasons why I think it would be a good move for a future Lightning > design. Also, many potential customers have asked about a tail dragger > Lightning. > > People prefer to fly tail-draggers for different reasons. Probably the > largest group of tail-dragger fans would say that an airplane looks better > without the nose wheel. Another group prefers them because of the slight > performance improvement in cruise, top speed, lower empty weight, and grass > runway or rough field operations. Still another group might want to fly > them for nostalgic reasons (most vintage airplanes are T/W) or perhaps that > it "shows" that they are better pilots because they can handle a > tail-dragger. For example, have you ever heard someone say, "See that guy > (or gal), they fly tail-draggers." Whereas, you will probably never hear > someone impressively say, "That guy flys a Cherokee." Oh well, I probably > belong to all the above groups. > > The last statement about being a tail-dragger pilot somehow making you a > better pilot will probably get some peoples hackles up. That was not my > intent, as I am sure that some folks that have never flown tail-draggers are > great pilots. They just, up to this point, have not had or taken the > opportunity to get current in conventional aircraft. And that is getting > harder and harder to do in today's environment. It really is hard to find > an instructor that can check you out. But once checked out and current in > conventional gear airplanes, you will fly like a better pilot. How is that > possible? Actually, I can usually tell if a person is tail-wheel qualified > while they are taxing out, or for sure during the takeoff roll. On takeoff > roll, by necessity, a tail-wheel pilot notices the need to make small > heading corrections much sooner than a person who has not flown > tail-wheels. Their eyes are accustomed to seeing the small deviations > sooner - rather than later. A nose wheel airplane actually corrects itself > to some degree on takeoff and landing roll out, where as a tail wheel > airplane, needing a correction, will continue to need more and more of a > correction. So the current tail wheel pilot sees that need sooner and makes > the correction. I have seen nose wheel pilots let the nose swing as much as > ten degrees before making a correction. Probably disaster in a tail wheel > airplane. And that is why nose wheel airplanes were invented. They are > easier to takeoff and land. They were designed for the weakest link. Yes, > I threw that in for effect and to perhaps help you decide to go get a tail > wheel endorsement. You will improve your piloting skill. And guess what, > those skills will make you a better pilot in the air as well. If you are > seeing smaller heading changes and making corrections quicker on the ground, > you will also be doing the same in the air. Even your instrument flying > will improve. > > Of course the down side, as Doug has mentioned (and Pete has in the past), > is that tail dragger airplanes will probably cost more to insure - certainly > until you log quite a bit of T/W time. But I think your overall enjoyment > and increased piloting skills will be a big benefactor. And besides, it > opens up a large number of vintage airplanes for you to have the chance to > fly. As I said, this is just my $.02 worth, your mileage may vary. > Blue Skies, > Buz > > > ------------------------------ > . > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 01:22:42 PM PST US
    From: "ryan gross" <ryan@greenlandings.com>
    Subject: Re: Playing
    Jim, I was thinking if its alright with you? I would put your youtube clip on the front page of my website. If you don't want me to let me know. Thanks!! Ryan Gross Green Landings Flight Center, Inc SkyRanger Aircraft Arion Lightning 304-754-6010 -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com> Subject: Lightning-List: Playing Just playing around with a crappy video editor, (I gotta load Premier on my PC again...). Anyway, my favorite airplane and one of my favorite songs. I will clean it up and finish it later. Just getting ideas.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BfI-YzPbU Jim!


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    Time: 03:36:56 PM PST US
    From: Charles Dewey <cdewey6969@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: To Earl
    Earl- Thanks for the candid response on the possibility of flying to Mexico over the gulf. It's good to know the Lightning has great range even with a headwind. There are no islands b/w Key West and Cancun so if you don't make it you just don't make it. Congrats on your record-breaking trip- Charles --- Jim Langley <pequeajim@gmail.com> wrote: > As always, well said Buz > > > > > > On 8/13/07, N1BZRich@aol.com <N1BZRich@aol.com> > wrote: > > > > Here is my input on the tail-dragger controversy > (is it a controversy?) > > and some reasons why I think it would be a good > move for a future Lightning > > design. Also, many potential customers have asked > about a tail dragger > > Lightning. > > > > People prefer to fly tail-draggers for different > reasons. Probably the > > largest group of tail-dragger fans would say that > an airplane looks better > > without the nose wheel. Another group prefers > them because of the slight > > performance improvement in cruise, top speed, > lower empty weight, and grass > > runway or rough field operations. Still another > group might want to fly > > them for nostalgic reasons (most vintage airplanes > are T/W) or perhaps that > > it "shows" that they are better pilots because > they can handle a > > tail-dragger. For example, have you ever heard > someone say, "See that guy > > (or gal), they fly tail-draggers." Whereas, you > will probably never hear > > someone impressively say, "That guy flys a > Cherokee." Oh well, I probably > > belong to all the above groups. > > > > The last statement about being a tail-dragger > pilot somehow making you a > > better pilot will probably get some peoples > hackles up. That was not my > > intent, as I am sure that some folks that have > never flown tail-draggers are > > great pilots. They just, up to this point, have > not had or taken the > > opportunity to get current in conventional > aircraft. And that is getting > > harder and harder to do in today's environment. > It really is hard to find > > an instructor that can check you out. But once > checked out and current in > > conventional gear airplanes, you will fly like a > better pilot. How is that > > possible? Actually, I can usually tell if a > person is tail-wheel qualified > > while they are taxing out, or for sure during the > takeoff roll. On takeoff > > roll, by necessity, a tail-wheel pilot notices the > need to make small > > heading corrections much sooner than a person who > has not flown > > tail-wheels. Their eyes are accustomed to seeing > the small deviations > > sooner - rather than later. A nose wheel airplane > actually corrects itself > > to some degree on takeoff and landing roll out, > where as a tail wheel > > airplane, needing a correction, will continue to > need more and more of a > > correction. So the current tail wheel pilot sees > that need sooner and makes > > the correction. I have seen nose wheel pilots let > the nose swing as much as > > ten degrees before making a correction. Probably > disaster in a tail wheel > > airplane. And that is why nose wheel airplanes > were invented. They are > > easier to takeoff and land. They were designed > for the weakest link. Yes, > > I threw that in for effect and to perhaps help you > decide to go get a tail > > wheel endorsement. You will improve your piloting > skill. And guess what, > > those skills will make you a better pilot in the > air as well. If you are > > seeing smaller heading changes and making > corrections quicker on the ground, > > you will also be doing the same in the air. Even > your instrument flying > > will improve. > > > > Of course the down side, as Doug has mentioned > (and Pete has in the past), > > is that tail dragger airplanes will probably cost > more to insure - certainly > > until you log quite a bit of T/W time. But I > think your overall enjoyment > > and increased piloting skills will be a big > benefactor. And besides, it > > opens up a large number of vintage airplanes for > you to have the chance to > > fly. As I said, this is just my $.02 worth, your > mileage may vary. > > Blue Skies, > > Buz > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > . > > > > * > > > > * > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 03:56:57 PM PST US
    From: Charles Dewey <cdewey6969@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Nick's Turbo edition
    Hey Nick, When is the new turbo Lightning model due to come out? Is it a whole new model or will a current Lightning be able to be upgraded? Charles --- N1BZRich@AOL.COM wrote: > Here is my input on the tail-dragger controversy (is > it a controversy?) and > some reasons why I think it would be a good move for > a future Lightning > design. Also, many potential customers have asked > about a tail dragger Lightning. > > > People prefer to fly tail-draggers for different > reasons. Probably the > largest group of tail-dragger fans would say that an > airplane looks better > without the nose wheel. Another group prefers them > because of the slight > performance improvement in cruise, top speed, lower > empty weight, and grass runway or > rough field operations. Still another group might > want to fly them for > nostalgic reasons (most vintage airplanes are T/W) > or perhaps that it "shows" that > they are better pilots because they can handle a > tail-dragger. For example, > have you ever heard someone say, "See that guy (or > gal), they fly > tail-draggers." Whereas, you will probably never > hear someone impressively say, > "That guy flys a Cherokee." Oh well, I probably > belong to all the above groups. > > The last statement about being a tail-dragger pilot > somehow making you a > better pilot will probably get some peoples hackles > up. That was not my intent, > as I am sure that some folks that have never flown > tail-draggers are great > pilots. They just, up to this point, have not had > or taken the opportunity to > get current in conventional aircraft. And that is > getting harder and harder > to do in today's environment. It really is hard to > find an instructor that > can check you out. But once checked out and current > in conventional gear > airplanes, you will fly like a better pilot. How is > that possible? Actually, I > can usually tell if a person is tail-wheel qualified > while they are taxing > out, or for sure during the takeoff roll. On > takeoff roll, by necessity, a > tail-wheel pilot notices the need to make small > heading corrections much sooner > than a person who has not flown tail-wheels. Their > eyes are accustomed to > seeing the small deviations sooner - rather than > later. A nose wheel airplane > actually corrects itself to some degree on takeoff > and landing roll out, > where as a tail wheel airplane, needing a > correction, will continue to need more > and more of a correction. So the current tail > wheel pilot sees that need > sooner and makes the correction. I have seen nose > wheel pilots let the nose > swing as much as ten degrees before making a > correction. Probably disaster in > a tail wheel airplane. And that is why nose wheel > airplanes were invented. > They are easier to takeoff and land. They were > designed for the weakest > link. Yes, I threw that in for effect and to > perhaps help you decide to go get a > tail wheel endorsement. You will improve your > piloting skill. And guess > what, those skills will make you a better pilot in > the air as well. If you are > seeing smaller heading changes and making > corrections quicker on the ground, > you will also be doing the same in the air. Even > your instrument flying > will improve. > > Of course the down side, as Doug has mentioned (and > Pete has in the past), > is that tail dragger airplanes will probably cost > more to insure - certainly > until you log quite a bit of T/W time. But I think > your overall enjoyment and > increased piloting skills will be a big benefactor. > And besides, it opens > up a large number of vintage airplanes for you to > have the chance to fly. As > I said, this is just my $.02 worth, your mileage may > vary. > Blue Skies, > Buz > > > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 04:15:35 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Playing
    You can if you like, but I will be creating a better version some time this week. I guess you can change it later. Jim! _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ryan gross Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Playing Jim, I was thinking if its alright with you? I would put your youtube clip on the front page of my website. If you don't want me to let me know. Thanks!! Ryan Gross Green Landings Flight Center, Inc SkyRanger Aircraft Arion Lightning 304-754-6010 -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com> Subject: Lightning-List: Playing Just playing around with a crappy video editor, (I gotta load Premier on my PC again...). Anyway, my favorite airplane and one of my favorite songs. I will clean it up and finish it later. Just getting ideas.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BfI-YzPbU Jim!


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    Time: 04:19:32 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Playing
    Ryan: The guy at the field who owns the green Rans. Do you have his name and number? I have a friend that is looking for one and want's to talk to an owner. Jim! _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ryan gross Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Playing Jim, I was thinking if its alright with you? I would put your youtube clip on the front page of my website. If you don't want me to let me know. Thanks!! Ryan Gross Green Landings Flight Center, Inc SkyRanger Aircraft Arion Lightning 304-754-6010 -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com> Subject: Lightning-List: Playing Just playing around with a crappy video editor, (I gotta load Premier on my PC again...). Anyway, my favorite airplane and one of my favorite songs. I will clean it up and finish it later. Just getting ideas.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BfI-YzPbU Jim!


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    Time: 04:57:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aviating in Virginia
    From: "rickss" <rickss@verizon.net>
    Hey Jim, Sorry I did not make it. I was on a short leash. The weather was kind of iffy in the morning at Culpeper. So by the time I got up in the air I didn't have enought time to get up there and back before I got a tug on my leash. I think what I need to do is drive up there and take a look. Next Saturday is shot, too because I am attending the FAA meeting on the new ADIZ configuration. Don't worry, I get up there real soon. Rick pequeajim wrote: > Hey Rick: > > Sorry we missed you today? The weather was great. Ryan was flying one of > two Lightnings off and on all day. > > I finished up what I needed to work on today, so I came home tonight instead > of staying another day. > > Sorry I missed you. > > Jim! > > -- -------- Cherokee driver, but feeling the need for speed! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129066#129066


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    Time: 05:39:23 PM PST US
    From: Kayberg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Taildraggers forever.......
    In a message dated 8/13/2007 12:35:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, N1BZRich@aol.com writes: Of course the down side, as Doug has mentioned (and Pete has in the past), is that tail dragger airplanes will probably cost more to insure - certainly until you log quite a bit of T/W time. But I think your overall enjoyment and increased piloting skills will be a big benefactor. And besides, it opens up a large number of vintage airplanes for you to have the chance to fly. As I said, this is just my $.02 worth, your mileage may vary. Could it be they cost more to insure because people wreck em more? But I do agree with Buz that a tailwheel will impove your landing abilities (or get that all-important first crash out of the way!) And I agree with the other benifits. I do have a taildragger rating and own a hot little taildragger that is undergoing a rebuild (no I didnt crash it yet). But I like the advantages of trigear. I always come back to "mission profile". What do you want your plane to do for you? If you travel a lot, then having to work at making that last landing of a long cross country day can be a bit dangerous if you have a taildragger. If you are a sport pilot, particularly if you are working your way up the ratings game, then it makes more sense. doug http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 06:14:25 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Taildraggers forever.......
    In a message dated 8/13/2007 8:40:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Kayberg@aol.com writes: Could it be they cost more to insure because people wreck em more? If you travel a lot, then having to work at making that last landing of a long cross country day can be a bit dangerous if you have a taildragger. If you are a sport pilot, particularly if you are working your way up the ratings game, then it makes more sense. Doug, Well written, well thought out, and I agree with most of what you said - the rest of it is pure BS. :-) Just kidding of course. First, yes, insurance on T/W aircraft is more because people do wreck them more. Why, probably many reasons, including yours that says they are harder to land. But I suspect a bigger reason is people just don't fly enough to stay proficient and thus don't have the "golden hands" and the best judgement. I am very proud of the fact that I flew my Pitts for 29 years with no accidents or incidents. But, it is a very honest airplane and I flew it a lot. Proficiency and currency is important in what ever you fly, but nose wheel airplanes are definitely more forgiving. Second, your comment about tail wheels being more "dangerous" after a long day of flying - no, I can buy that. The key word I don't buy is "dangerous". Again, if you are current and proficient, they are no more dangerous than any other kind of landing gear. Remember, part of being a good pilot is judgement. If you are too tired after a long day - don't make that last flight. You should always make your personal physical condition part of your "go-no go" decision. Also, a tailwheel pilot probably thinks more about the winds, runways available, divert airfields, and other such judgement things during the flight planning process because he is flying a tail wheel airplane. In my book, he is a better pilot because he is always thinking about such things and making those items part of the planning process. Any way, as I said, your mileage may vary. Blue Skies, Buz http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 06:18:03 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Aviating in Virginia
    Sorry we missed you. Ryan flew several times during the day and took some people up for demo rides. If it were iffy for me, I agree, I would drive it. That's what I did the first time I went to GL. The weather was questionable and I just hopped in my car and drove two and a half hours to visit the place. It was well worth the trip. Fortunately, you live a bit closer than I do. Best of luck in your evaluation. The Lightning group is made up of a lot of passionate people who promote and help each other. It's a good bunch, and we're looking forward to you joining the fold! Jim! -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rickss Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Aviating in Virginia Hey Jim, Sorry I did not make it. I was on a short leash. The weather was kind of iffy in the morning at Culpeper. So by the time I got up in the air I didn't have enought time to get up there and back before I got a tug on my leash. I think what I need to do is drive up there and take a look. Next Saturday is shot, too because I am attending the FAA meeting on the new ADIZ configuration. Don't worry, I get up there real soon. Rick pequeajim wrote: > Hey Rick: > > Sorry we missed you today? The weather was great. Ryan was flying one of > two Lightnings off and on all day. > > I finished up what I needed to work on today, so I came home tonight instead > of staying another day. > > Sorry I missed you. > > Jim! > > -- -------- Cherokee driver, but feeling the need for speed! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129066#129066


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    Time: 07:36:39 PM PST US
    From: Kayberg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Taildraggers forever.......
    In a message dated 8/13/2007 9:15:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, N1BZRich@aol.com writes: Second, your comment about tail wheels being more "dangerous" after a long day of flying - no, I can buy that. The key word I don't buy is "dangerous". Again, if you are current and proficient, they are no more dangerous than any other kind of landing gear. Remember, part of being a good pilot is judgement. If you are too tired after a long day - don't make that last flight. You should always make your personal physical condition part of your "go-no go" decision. Also, a tailwheel pilot probably thinks more about the winds, runways available, divert airfields, and other such judgement things during the flight planning process because he is flying a tail wheel airplane. In my book, he is a better pilot because he is always thinking about such things and making those items part of the planning process. Demanding is the better word than dangerous. And demanding airplanes should inspire better planning, more proficency and some decent judgement calls, I agree. I am suggesting that a taildragger Lightning will require more of it's pilot than a tri-gear and that price will have to be paid. It will require more pilot skill and be less forgiving. Somehow looks, lighter weight, slightly better performance can seem less important when you have lost control of your bird and are awaiting an impact with a non-runway environment. doug http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 07:49:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lightning World Record
    From: "Scotty" <mr.scotty@comcast.net>
    Earl, VSHFP Very S&*# Hot Fighter Pilot, circa Viet Nam carrier guys. Seriously, Congratulations on a job well done. Respy, Scotty Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129099#129099


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    Time: 08:06:10 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Nick's Turbo edition
    In a message dated 8/13/2007 6:58:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cdewey6969@yahoo.com writes: Hey Nick, When is the new turbo Lightning model due to come out? Is it a whole new model or will a current Lightning be able to be upgraded? Hi Charles, I think Nick is away from SYI for a week or so and thus may not be doing e-mails on a regular basis. So let me comment on your question about the s o called =9Cturbo Lightning=9D. Actually, I am sorry to say, it w as a =9Ctongue in cheek=9D comment, meaning, I made it up. Actually, Nick and I had dis cussed something similar to this at a past =9Crefueling=9D meeting of A rion Skunk Works (meaning we were refueling with 12 ounce cans of brew=9D. So, sorry, no turbo Lightning, but Nick will be coming up with a tail wheel Lightning as soon a s he can find the time. And that is the problem. All of the Lightning team is just too busy producing Lightning kits and doing builder assist with custom ers. Nick will get it done, but other things have higher priorities at this time . Blue Skies, Buz t http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 08:06:53 PM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@aol.com
    Subject: Re:Cancun trip
    You are correct about no friendly islands on the route, but you can probably get permission to overfly Cuba on the way and it would be acceptable for an emergency landing. Also, I didn't check your 350 NM distance estimate, but I've flown some 400 NM legs recently with no help from the wind gods. However, please understand that I didn't suggest flying that trip with a headwind. Over water wind predictions are iffy, and you will want at least a zero headwind forecast, then hope for something close. I once had a Spanish forecaster give me the wind 180 deg out on a long over water leg. It was probably a language problem, but we did pucker when we figured it out. I still have the napkin he wrote that forecast on. But that's another story. Earl http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 08:20:06 PM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@aol.com
    Subject: Tail draggers
    I can't resist. My tail dragger experience is one landing about 1964 in a Cessna 120. I was going to check out in it, but we fouled a plug and so I never made the second landing. However, a partial answer to the visibility on landing problem is to fly an aircraft carrier approach, steady turn to final. Roll out over the numbers. If you have ever had the opportunity to sit in the cockpit of a WWI fighter you can understand why it's done that way. The F4U Corsair is the best (or rather worst) example. Earl Ferguson One tailwheel landing, but 200+ on carriers http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour




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