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1. 07:14 AM - gas struts (Tex Mantell)
2. 07:17 AM - build manual & flight manual (Tex Mantell)
3. 08:14 AM - Re: build manual & flight manual (Brian Whittingham)
4. 08:19 AM - Re: gas struts (nick otterback)
5. 12:05 PM - Re: build manual & flight manual (Bill)
6. 12:11 PM - Re: build manual & flight manual (Tex Mantell)
7. 12:21 PM - Re: build manual & flight manual (Brian Whittingham)
8. 05:43 PM - get together (Tex Mantell)
9. 07:59 PM - 3 pictures for you-canopy hindge (Peter and Jan Disher)
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Nick & Mark, I tried the lower pressure gas struts and the problem is
the same. I guess that I will try another means of supporting the
canopy for I dont want to give up the nice fit I have now. Will be open
to any suggestions. Tex
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| Subject: | build manual & flight manual |
Mark, still have not received the disk, how did you send it? Tex
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| Subject: | build manual & flight manual |
Tex,
You can always do like the Esquals, and like some of the Lightnings when
they first begin flying and just not put in any struts. You'll just have to
hold your own canopy up. Buz has a mod for his Esqual that holds up the
canopy a few inches to help with airflow on the ground. You could put
something like a nylon or leather strap mounted to the inside rear of the
canopy, then when you close it pull it through the opening between the
canopy and turtledeck so that it's easy to lift up the canopy. I mean, even
with the struts you have to be careful so that the wind doesn't catch it and
slam it back down or stress it and pull it off the other way. I flew a
couple of Lightnings like this and all the Esquals that I flew were like
this and it's not that big of a deal. The struts were just something that
the Lightning folks were trying to make as a convienince in ther design.
Brian W.
From: "Tex Mantell" <wb2ssj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Lightning-List: build manual & flight manual
Mark, still have not received the disk, how did you send it? Tex
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Tex....
Thinking of a soulution...
nick
Tex Mantell <wb2ssj@earthlink.net> wrote:
Nick & Mark, I tried the lower pressure gas struts and the problem is
the same. I guess that I will try another means of supporting the canopy for
I dont want to give up the nice fit I have now. Will be open to any suggestions.
Tex
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| Subject: | Re: build manual & flight manual |
Hi All,
Another way to hold the canopy open partially is to drill new holes
about 3 to 4 inches above the fuselage holes located for the existing
canopy lock pins. Then raise the canopy and slide these pins out and
into the fuselage frame and the canopy is locked into position and air
can flow through the cockpit without restriction. This is a simple mod
that does not add weight and is easy to do at any time during or after
the build phase. I've seen this mod done on a lightning here in Tucson.
Bill
Brian Whittingham wrote:
> <dashvii@hotmail.com>
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> Tex,
> You can always do like the Esquals, and like some of the Lightnings
> when they first begin flying and just not put in any struts. You'll
> just have to hold your own canopy up. Buz has a mod for his Esqual
> that holds up the canopy a few inches to help with airflow on the
> ground. You could put something like a nylon or leather strap mounted
> to the inside rear of the canopy, then when you close it pull it
> through the opening between the canopy and turtledeck so that it's
> easy to lift up the canopy. I mean, even with the struts you have to
> be careful so that the wind doesn't catch it and slam it back down or
> stress it and pull it off the other way. I flew a couple of
> Lightnings like this and all the Esquals that I flew were like this
> and it's not that big of a deal. The struts were just something that
> the Lightning folks were trying to make as a convienince in ther
> design. Brian W.
>
> From: "Tex Mantell" <wb2ssj@earthlink.net>
> To: "lightning List" <Lightning-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Lightning-List: build manual & flight manual
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:16:06 -0400
>
> Mark, still have not received the disk, how did you send it? Tex
>
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| Subject: | Re: build manual & flight manual |
Thanks for the info Brian, I'll ask Buz for a picture , it sounds like a
possibility. Tex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Whittingham" <dashvii@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: build manual & flight manual
> <dashvii@hotmail.com>
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> Tex,
> You can always do like the Esquals, and like some of the Lightnings when
> they first begin flying and just not put in any struts. You'll just have
> to hold your own canopy up. Buz has a mod for his Esqual that holds up
> the canopy a few inches to help with airflow on the ground. You could put
> something like a nylon or leather strap mounted to the inside rear of the
> canopy, then when you close it pull it through the opening between the
> canopy and turtledeck so that it's easy to lift up the canopy. I mean,
> even with the struts you have to be careful so that the wind doesn't catch
> it and slam it back down or stress it and pull it off the other way. I
> flew a couple of Lightnings like this and all the Esquals that I flew were
> like this and it's not that big of a deal. The struts were just something
> that the Lightning folks were trying to make as a convienince in ther
> design. Brian W.
>
> From: "Tex Mantell" <wb2ssj@earthlink.net>
> To: "lightning List" <Lightning-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Lightning-List: build manual & flight manual
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:16:06 -0400
>
> Mark, still have not received the disk, how did you send it? Tex
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: build manual & flight manual |
Tex,
As Bill said, there are a few people who have drilled a second canopy pin
latch hole in the railing a few inches above the original holes. That locks
the canopy in a slightly inclined position while taxiing for airflow. I
think that it comes down to an option of accessability. If you've got a
really great fit and don't mind tilting the canopy up and watching it to
make sure it doesn't fall back everytime then I'd just leave the shocks off.
Saves a little weight, less to break in the future etc. Doesn't really
change the looks any. Brian W.
From: "Tex Mantell" <wb2ssj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: build manual & flight manual
Thanks for the info Brian, I'll ask Buz for a picture , it sounds like a
possibility. Tex
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Whittingham" <dashvii@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: build manual & flight manual
><dashvii@hotmail.com>
>
>Tex,
> You can always do like the Esquals, and like some of the Lightnings when
>they first begin flying and just not put in any struts. You'll just have
>to hold your own canopy up. Buz has a mod for his Esqual that holds up the
>canopy a few inches to help with airflow on the ground. You could put
>something like a nylon or leather strap mounted to the inside rear of the
>canopy, then when you close it pull it through the opening between the
>canopy and turtledeck so that it's easy to lift up the canopy. I mean,
>even with the struts you have to be careful so that the wind doesn't catch
>it and slam it back down or stress it and pull it off the other way. I
>flew a couple of Lightnings like this and all the Esquals that I flew were
>like this and it's not that big of a deal. The struts were just something
>that the Lightning folks were trying to make as a convienince in ther
>design. Brian W.
>
>From: "Tex Mantell" <wb2ssj@earthlink.net>
>To: "lightning List" <Lightning-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Lightning-List: build manual & flight manual
>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:16:06 -0400
>
>Mark, still have not received the disk, how did you send it? Tex
>
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Are the dates firm yet for the meet in Shellbyville? Tex
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| Subject: | 3 pictures for you-canopy hindge |
Hi Tex,
This is Pete Disher,
If I understand your canopy problem correctly I believe the hindge
springs open when the gas struts are on. What I did was to strengthen
them up as like the pictures attached, with 1/4 plate AL.
Hope this might help
Regards
Pete Disher
Australia
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