---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/07/07: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:59 AM - Re: (Charles Dewey) 2. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Cat-Like Reflexes (N1BZRich@aol.com) 3. 09:17 PM - Re: sept 21 23 (N1BZRich@AOL.COM) 4. 09:33 PM - Re: sept 21 23 (Mark Stauffer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:10 AM PST US From: Charles Dewey Subject: Re: Lightning-List: ddunbar- to my knowledge, there is only one guy putting an eight cylinder in the Lightning, and he is in Australia. Charles --- ddunbar wrote: > > > Hello Charles, > > Friday, September 7, 2007, 12:30:49 PM, you wrote: > > > > CD> Buzz, If after a 1000 or so hours in a > Lightning, > CD> could one white boy with a hundred or so extra > hours > CD> in a tail wheel like a Sonerai,and a very > confident > CD> and well-skilled pilot with nerves of steel and > CD> cat-like reflexes, move up to the Nemesis NXT? I > would > CD> love to see Nick and crew come up with a design > for a > CD> plane that could push the 300mph mark yet cost > half of > CD> what a finished Nemesis would cost. They have > done it > CD> with pioneering the Lightning- I would love to > see an > CD> encore, Fellow Lightningeer, Charles > CD> PS- Buzz- Being as experienced as you are, would > you > CD> feel confident flying the Nemesis over open > water for > CD> over 1000 miles (something like the Carribean > chain) > > > CD> --- N1BZRich@aol.com wrote: > > >> > >> In a message dated 9/6/2007 9:43:27 P.M. Eastern > >> Daylight Time, > >> wb2ssj@earthlink.net writes: > >> > >> Also cant wait to get a ride in that open > cockpit > >> lightning with the tail > >> wheel and the 8 cylinder engine. It must be a > hoot. > >> > >> > >> Tex, > >> Right on, it is a hoot. Be sure to bring > your > >> leather helmet and > >> goggles. > >> See you there. > >> Buz > >> > >> > >> > >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > >> > > > > > CD> Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > CD> that gives answers, not web links. > CD> > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > > > Are you building a Lightning with the 8 cylinder > jabiru? > > -- > Best regards, > ddunbar > mailto:ddunbar@echidna.id.au > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:33 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@aol.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: Cat-Like Reflexes Hi Charles, As always, you have proposed a very thought provoking and complex question - or actually, questions. Taking them one at a time: -If after a 1000 or so hours in a Lightning, could one white boy with a hundred or so extra hours in a tail wheel like a Sonerai,and a very confident and well-skilled pilot with nerves of steel and cat-like reflexes, move up to the Nemesis NXT? Personally, I don't think a really big number of hours of total flying time is all that important. I have seen 20,000+ hour pilots that I would not feel comfortable to let fly my airplane. Sure, they must be good at systems management while letting the auto pilot do the work, but their real stick and rudder skills were sorely lacking. They probably don't really enjoy general aviation or sport aircraft and thus take no pride in flying one really well. On the other hand, I have seen very low time pilots that were on top of their flying game and I would have no problem letting them fly one of my airplanes. The more important factor in my mind would be currency in the type of airplane you are going to fly. Also, when checking out in a new airplane, having a wide variety of background experience in numerous airplanes is always a benefit as well. So to check out in a Nemesis NXT, get some dual in one if that is even a possibility. If not, find a tail dragger that lands at about the same speed and has the same amount of visibility in the landing configuration. And don't forget, as Curtis Pitts once said, "There is no such thing as a squirrely airplane. Just squirrely pilots." -I would love to see Nick and crew come up with a design for a plane that could push the 300 mph mark yet cost half of what a finished Nemesis would cost. I have no idea what a Nemesis would cost (big bucks right??) but a totally new Lightning to match Nemesis performance would be big bucks as well. It takes money to go fast. You just can't hang a huge engine on the Lightning and get it anywhere near 300. Why? To start with, the current airfoil would probably hit a brick wall on the drag curve at something around 225 or so (ask Nick). And just how much power would it take to get the current Lightning to 225 in level flight? Well, an IO-550 (300 HP) might come close, but the current Lightning fuselage would need major modifications to mount and handle that much HP. And then you would need much larger fuel tanks, etc, etc. Thus the gross weight goes way up, requiring a larger wing, etc, etc. Heck, I guess we will just need to start with a clean sheet of paper to design the airplane you are looking for. That would be easier and probably cheaper. Once you get it designed and flying, then maybe others will want one as well, but then do that many people have the money, the desire, and the capability to buy, build and fly such a design. Don't know, but it is fun to think about. -would you feel confident flying the Nemesis over open water for over 1000 miles (something like the Carribean chain) Well, if I were current and proficient in the Nemesis, and if it has that kind of range plus reserve, and if it can carry the right survival gear, and if the weather was right, and if my destination has the right runway environment, then yes. It normally takes me about 10 hours (sometimes more) to feel confident in a new (to me) airplane, but by feeling confident, I don't just mean flying it straight and level and then landing on a long runway (that would probably only take an hour or less). I like to be feel confident in all flight regimes of an airplane's envelop. And of course that envelop varies greatly from airplane to airplane. In some cases that would include aerobatics, in others it might mean slow flight and maneuvering at high angles of attack, in others in might include landing on back country airports or perhaps on no runways at all. So it all depends. But to feel confident, I want to be able to fly the airplane to it's max design capabilities and then land on any runway that meets it's minimum design specifications, and in any wind condition that I am likely to encounter. The rest of your 1000 mile Nemesis question really has to do with that airplane itself and I just don't know that much about it. But one thing for sure, it is one beautiful airplane. Blue Skies, Buz ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:05 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: sept 21 23 In a message dated 9/6/2007 11:57:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mark.stauffer1@gmail.com writes: Mention Buz=99s name for a great rate! Hi Mark, I'm not too sure how to take that comment, but actually I do stay at th e Country Hearth when ever I come to SYI. Heck, I've been to SYI so often that I probably could have bought the place by now. But it is the closest to the airport. Initially the "great rate" was based on my military ID, but I think if you say you are there as part of the Arion Lightning or Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft program, you will be given a special rate. Blue skies, Buz PS: Mention Mark's name for a great date! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:33:30 PM PST US From: "Mark Stauffer" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: sept 21 23 Mention my name at Huddle House or Midway Diner for a great rate. I have no pull at the local hotels!!! Have a great day!! Mark From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: sept 21 23 In a message dated 9/6/2007 11:57:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mark.stauffer1@gmail.com writes: Mention Buz=99s name for a great rate! Hi Mark, I'm not too sure how to take that comment, but actually I do stay at the Country Hearth when ever I come to SYI. Heck, I've been to SYI so often that I probably could have bought the place by now. But it is the closest to the airport. Initially the "great rate" was based on my military ID, but I think if you say you are there as part of the Arion Lightning or Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft program, you will be given a special rate. Blue skies, Buz PS: Mention Mark's name for a great date! _____ Make AOL Your Homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message lightning-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Lightning-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/lightning-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/lightning-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.