---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/20/07: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:49 AM - Homecoming (EAFerguson@AOL.COM) 2. 06:54 AM - Re: Fuel Consumption (Malcolm Ferguson) 3. 07:04 AM - Re: Homecoming () 4. 08:04 AM - Re: Homecoming (Jim Langley) 5. 08:26 AM - Re: Fuel Consumption (Brian Whittingham) 6. 12:49 PM - Re: Lightning-List Lightning Insurance (Charles Dewey) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:34 AM PST US From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM Subject: Lightning-List: Homecoming Wx looks good for this weekend, I'll be there in time for lunch Friday. Looking forward to the gathering! Earl Ferguson N17EF ************************************** See what's new at ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:04 AM PST US From: "Malcolm Ferguson" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Fuel Consumption Brian, If the whole plane was shaking,especially the wings, you may have had rudder flutter. A trick some Rotax drivers use at altitude is to introduce an air bleed into the induction system. It goes without saying that you must have EGT on all cyls. The rotax engine has a balance pipe between the 2 manifolds. Bleed air is introduced there via a needle valve. No reason why you could not do it to a Jab. Requires the same management the Lycoming drivers do on every flight. Malcolm Ferguson ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:49 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Homecoming I will be there first thing Friday. Looking forward to seeing old aquaintances and meeting new! Colin K. OK ---- EAFerguson@aol.com wrote: > Wx looks good for this weekend, I'll be there in time for lunch Friday. > Looking forward to the gathering! > > Earl Ferguson > N17EF > > > ************************************** > See what's new at ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:35 AM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Homecoming Sorry I'll miss you Colin. I just could not arrange to make both the homecoming and engine seminar. I had to pick one or the other. sigh... You guys can send me lot of pictures so I don't feel so disconnected. On 9/20/07, cjk129@cox.net wrote: > > > I will be there first thing Friday. Looking forward to seeing old > aquaintances and meeting new! > > Colin K. > OK > ---- EAFerguson@aol.com wrote: > > Wx looks good for this weekend, I'll be there in time for lunch Friday. > > Looking forward to the gathering! > > > > Earl Ferguson > > N17EF > > > > > > ************************************** > > See what's new at > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:36 AM PST US From: "Brian Whittingham" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Fuel Consumption "If the whole plane was shaking,especially the wings, you may have had rudder flutter." This turned out not to be the case, but just a rough running engine. Waaaayyyyyy too rich at the carb for that altitude. Flutter was my initial concern, so I changed everything, speed, power, attittude, etc. You can see every control surface except for the rudder in the Lightning. Even then, you would feel some feedback from the pedals. I never experienced flutter in any of the planes that I flew there, Jabiru, Esqual, or Lightning. The last two I took out to around 200mph on each airframe. I did lots of different speed/power combinations at different altitudes. I would be much more worried about flutter if you added something to the control surfaces themselves, such as your own trim tab. As far as the engine, that was a rare occassion. If you read the manual and treat the Jabiru as it is supposed to be treated it is a very smooth running and reliable engine. I've never flown a Rotax yet, but this engine is smoother than a small Lycoming or Continental, such as the O-200. As Buz said, set the autopilot, try not to fall asleep! Brian W. From: "Malcolm Ferguson" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Fuel Consumption Brian, If the whole plane was shaking,especially the wings, you may have had rudder flutter. A trick some Rotax drivers use at altitude is to introduce an air bleed into the induction system. It goes without saying that you must have EGT on all cyls. The rotax engine has a balance pipe between the 2 manifolds. Bleed air is introduced there via a needle valve. No reason why you could not do it to a Jab. Requires the same management the Lycoming drivers do on every flight. Malcolm Ferguson _________________________________________________________________ Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe. Claim your treat today! http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline2 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:46 PM PST US From: Charles Dewey Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Lightning-List Lightning Insurance Does anyone out there have any idea who could insure a Lightning internationally? Falcon is great for inside the US. Someone said Lloyd's of London might...any others? Charles --- Jim Langley wrote: > Sorry I'll miss you Colin. I just could not arrange > to make both the > homecoming and engine seminar. I had to pick one or > the other. > > sigh... > > You guys can send me lot of pictures so I don't feel > so disconnected. > > > On 9/20/07, cjk129@cox.net wrote: > > > > > > > I will be there first thing Friday. Looking > forward to seeing old > > aquaintances and meeting new! > > > > Colin K. > > OK > > ---- EAFerguson@aol.com wrote: > > > Wx looks good for this weekend, I'll be there in > time for lunch Friday. > > > Looking forward to the gathering! > > > > > > Earl Ferguson > > > N17EF > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > See what's new at > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message lightning-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Lightning-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/lightning-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/lightning-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.