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0. 12:33 AM - November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month! (Matt Dralle)
1. 06:46 AM - Re: Lightning builders (nick otterback)
2. 06:59 AM - parts (Tex Mantell)
3. 08:23 AM - Re: Lightning builders ()
4. 12:45 PM - COM & Transponder Antennas (Mefford, Walt)
5. 01:08 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (Jim Langley)
6. 01:48 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (Mefford, Walt)
7. 02:42 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (Jim Langley)
8. 03:00 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS)
9. 03:55 PM - Re: parts (Mark Stauffer)
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| Subject: | November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month! |
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| Subject: | Lightning builders |
Colin..the cut outs are suppose to be there...i think we may have to check up with
the fiberglass shop....
nick
"Colin J. Kennedy" <cjk129@cox.net> wrote:
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Are there any plans to deliver future kits with the cut-outs for rudder and harness
cables already made in the aft-fuselage bulkhead ?
Colin K.
Ok
(Kit on order. deposit paid! :-)
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning builders
Hi All,
I'd like to get the names and Email addresses of all Lightning builders that are
not using builder assist programs. The builder's manual does not give enough
detail about how some parts are installed and or assembled. Dimensional values
and reference points are, at times, hard to comprehend as well. I believe
this special group of builders could benefit from sharing their unique experiences
with others in like situations. This would save some phone calls to Arion.
So far in my build I have had the following issues to contend with:
1. Aft fuselage bulkhead (not vertical stab) installed with elevator push-pull
tube rectangle cutout but, no holes cut for rudder and harness cables. Its going
to be a bear getting into this area to cut these holes with a hole saw and
to locate them accurately as well.
2. The mid-elevator bell crank, which is installed in a slot in the seat back,
does not give a picture of how this is assembled prior to installation so it
is up to you to determine how many washers and where they are located in this
assembly. The builder manual says that the long pivot horn should not stick up
above the break in the seat back but, the picture they provide clearly shows
that it does.
Bill in Tucson, Kit #49
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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Mark, got the parts today . That was fast. ThankYou
TEX
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| Subject: | Lightning builders |
Thanks Nick. I got the same answer from Mark and he was going to follow up.
Colin K.
OK
---- nick otterback <vettin74@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Colin..the cut outs are suppose to be there...i think we may have to check up
with the fiberglass shop....
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> nick
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> "Colin J. Kennedy" <cjk129@cox.net> wrote:
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> Are there any plans to deliver future kits with the cut-outs for rudder and
harness cables already made in the aft-fuselage bulkhead ?
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> Colin K.
> Ok
> (Kit on order. deposit paid! :-)
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> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:38 AM
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning builders
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> Hi All,
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> I'd like to get the names and Email addresses of all Lightning builders that
are not using builder assist programs. The builder's manual does not give enough
detail about how some parts are installed and or assembled. Dimensional values
and reference points are, at times, hard to comprehend as well. I believe
this special group of builders could benefit from sharing their unique experiences
with others in like situations. This would save some phone calls to Arion.
>
> So far in my build I have had the following issues to contend with:
>
> 1. Aft fuselage bulkhead (not vertical stab) installed with elevator push-pull
tube rectangle cutout but, no holes cut for rudder and harness cables. Its
going to be a bear getting into this area to cut these holes with a hole saw
and to locate them accurately as well.
>
> 2. The mid-elevator bell crank, which is installed in a slot in the seat back,
does not give a picture of how this is assembled prior to installation so it
is up to you to determine how many washers and where they are located in this
assembly. The builder manual says that the long pivot horn should not stick
up above the break in the seat back but, the picture they provide clearly shows
that it does.
>
> Bill in Tucson, Kit #49
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| Subject: | COM & Transponder Antennas |
I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some
of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
Walt Mefford
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| Subject: | Re: COM & Transponder Antennas |
Walt:
This is what I used.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
Jim!
On 11/1/07, Mefford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:
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> I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some
> of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
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> Walt Mefford
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| Subject: | COM & Transponder Antennas |
Thanks Jim:
I have been looking at them. Where did you mount them?
Walt
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Langley
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
Walt:
This is what I used.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
Jim!
On 11/1/07, Mefford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:
I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some
of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
Walt Mefford
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| Subject: | Re: COM & Transponder Antennas |
I haven't mounted it next. That will be taken care of on my next trips down
to work on the aircraft. The comm antenna get's mounted about halfway back
inside the fuse shell.in a vertical plane. It wraps around the the inside
of the fuse like a "C".
Jim!
On 11/1/07, Mefford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:
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> owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Langley
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:07 PM
> *To:* lightning-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
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> On 11/1/07, *Mefford, Walt* <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:
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> I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some
> of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
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> Walt Mefford
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| Subject: | Re: COM & Transponder Antennas |
Walt,
I used the Jim Weir copper tape and built the antennas for all but
transponder; I used the AAE transponder antenna.
Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: Mefford, Walt
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas
some of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
Walt Mefford
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Tex,
You're very welcome. I still owe you and un-painted pilot side step.
Mark
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tex Mantell
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:59 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: parts
Mark, got the parts today . That was fast. ThankYou
TEX
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