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List,
How do I properly unsubscribe from this list serve as I have tried on two occasion
to no avail...
Thanks in advance,
R.
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0. 12:33 AM - November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month! (Matt
Dralle)
1. 06:46 AM - Re: Lightning builders (nick otterback)
2. 06:59 AM - parts (Tex Mantell)
3. 08:23 AM - Re: Lightning builders ()
4. 12:45 PM - COM & Transponder Antennas (Mefford, Walt)
5. 01:08 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (Jim Langley)
6. 01:48 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (Mefford, Walt)
7. 02:42 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (Jim Langley)
8. 03:00 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA
MATHIAS)
9. 03:55 PM - Re: parts (Mark Stauffer)
________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________
Time: 12:33:43 AM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: Lightning-List: November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month!
Dear Listers,
You've probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows or spam
from any of the List and Forum services at Matronics. These include, for
example:
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about
the sport we enjoy - airplanes - and not about advertising!
But running a high performance, highly available service like this isn't free
and
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to support these costs. Advertising that you have to look at each and
every time you read an email message or browse the their web site.
Rather than subject my List community to another constant commercial
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I have chosen to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year in November to support
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the Contributions of List members that the Lists and Forums continue to be
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During the month, I will be sending out a Fund Raiser reminder message every few
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you are an Email List subscriber, once you make a Contribution using the online
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Raiser!
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to a Contribution message I've sent, you might receive that. Additionally, the
messages will always be posted to the Forums site. To a first order, however,
once you make a Contribution, you won't get my email messages about the Fund
Raiser for the rest of the month. For Contributions by check, the squelch
will take effect once the check is received.
There is a whole new line up of really great Contribution gifts this year! When
you make a qualifying Contribution, you can select one of the many free gifts
that are available during the Fund Raiser. These gifts are provided through
the generous support of a number of our industry's leading supporters including:
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Please visit these guy's respective sites, as they have some great products to
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________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 06:46:11 AM PST US
From: nick otterback <vettin74@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Lightning builders
Colin..the cut outs are suppose to be there...i think we may have to check up
with
the fiberglass shop....
nick
"Colin J. Kennedy" <cjk129@cox.net> wrote:
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personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } Mark S. or Nic,
Are there any plans to deliver future kits with the cut-outs for rudder and
harness
cables already made in the aft-fuselage bulkhead ?
Colin K.
Ok
(Kit on order. deposit paid! :-)
---------------------------------
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning builders
Hi All,
I'd like to get the names and Email addresses of all Lightning builders that are
not using builder assist programs. The builder's manual does not give enough
detail about how some parts are installed and or assembled. Dimensional values
and reference points are, at times, hard to comprehend as well. I believe
this special group of builders could benefit from sharing their unique
experiences
with others in like situations. This would save some phone calls to Arion.
So far in my build I have had the following issues to contend with:
1. Aft fuselage bulkhead (not vertical stab) installed with elevator push-pull
tube rectangle cutout but, no holes cut for rudder and harness cables. Its
going
to be a bear getting into this area to cut these holes with a hole saw and
to locate them accurately as well.
2. The mid-elevator bell crank, which is installed in a slot in the seat back,
does not give a picture of how this is assembled prior to installation so it
is up to you to determine how many washers and where they are located in this
assembly. The builder manual says that the long pivot horn should not stick up
above the break in the seat back but, the picture they provide clearly shows
that it does.
Bill in Tucson, Kit #49
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
__________________________________________________
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 06:59:25 AM PST US
From: "Tex Mantell" <wb2ssj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Lightning-List: parts
Mark, got the parts today . That was fast. ThankYou
TEX
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 08:23:00 AM PST US
From: <cjk129@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Lightning builders
Thanks Nick. I got the same answer from Mark and he was going to follow up.
Colin K.
OK
---- nick otterback <vettin74@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Colin..the cut outs are suppose to be there...i think we may have to check up
with the fiberglass shop....
>
> nick
>
> "Colin J. Kennedy" <cjk129@cox.net> wrote:
> v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR:
url(#default#VML)
} w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR:
url(#default#VML)
} st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } @font-face
{ font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in
1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in
0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal {
FONT-SIZE:
12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" }
DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black;
FONT-FAMILY:
"Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline
} SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited
{ COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{ COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } PRE { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN:
0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier
> New" } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;
mso-style-type:
personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } Mark S. or Nic,
>
> Are there any plans to deliver future kits with the cut-outs for rudder and
harness cables already made in the aft-fuselage bulkhead ?
>
> Colin K.
> Ok
> (Kit on order. deposit paid! :-)
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:38 AM
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning builders
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to get the names and Email addresses of all Lightning builders that
are not using builder assist programs. The builder's manual does not give
enough
detail about how some parts are installed and or assembled. Dimensional values
and reference points are, at times, hard to comprehend as well. I believe
this special group of builders could benefit from sharing their unique
experiences
with others in like situations. This would save some phone calls to Arion.
>
> So far in my build I have had the following issues to contend with:
>
> 1. Aft fuselage bulkhead (not vertical stab) installed with elevator
push-pull
tube rectangle cutout but, no holes cut for rudder and harness cables. Its
going to be a bear getting into this area to cut these holes with a hole saw
and to locate them accurately as well.
>
> 2. The mid-elevator bell crank, which is installed in a slot in the seat
back,
does not give a picture of how this is assembled prior to installation so it
is up to you to determine how many washers and where they are located in this
assembly. The builder manual says that the long pivot horn should not stick
up above the break in the seat back but, the picture they provide clearly shows
that it does.
>
> Bill in Tucson, Kit #49
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
>
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 12:45:25 PM PST US
Subject: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
From: "Mefford, Walt" <walt.mefford@garmin.com>
I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some
of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
Walt Mefford
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Thank you for your cooperation
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 01:08:59 PM PST US
From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
Walt:
This is what I used.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
Jim!
On 11/1/07, Mefford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:
>
> I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some
> of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
>
>
> Walt Mefford
>
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________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 01:48:55 PM PST US
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
From: "Mefford, Walt" <walt.mefford@garmin.com>
Thanks Jim:
I have been looking at them. Where did you mount them?
Walt
________________________________
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Langley
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
Walt:
This is what I used.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
Jim!
On 11/1/07, Mefford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:
I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some
of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
Walt Mefford
-------------------------
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the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended
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________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 02:42:15 PM PST US
From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
I haven't mounted it next. That will be taken care of on my next trips down
to work on the aircraft. The comm antenna get's mounted about halfway back
inside the fuse shell.in a vertical plane. It wraps around the the inside
of the fuse like a "C".
Jim!
On 11/1/07, Mefford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jim:
>
>
> I have been looking at them. Where did you mount them?
>
>
> Walt
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Langley
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:07 PM
> *To:* lightning-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
>
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> Walt:
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> This is what I used.
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> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
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> Jim!
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>
> On 11/1/07, *Mefford, Walt* <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:
>
> I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some
> of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
>
>
> Walt Mefford
>
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>
> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the
> sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient,
> please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this
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________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 03:00:03 PM PST US
From: "JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS" <lbmathias@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
Walt,
I used the Jim Weir copper tape and built the antennas for all but
transponder; I used the AAE transponder antenna.
Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: Mefford, Walt
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas
I am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas
some of you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?
Walt Mefford
-------------------------
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Thank you for your cooperation
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________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
Time: 03:55:26 PM PST US
From: "Mark Stauffer" <mark.stauffer1@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: parts
Tex,
You're very welcome. I still owe you and un-painted pilot side step.
Mark
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tex Mantell
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:59 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: parts
Mark, got the parts today . That was fast. ThankYou
TEX
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I went through the same thing when trying to leave the 601 list. I finally
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web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes =0Aand Message Navigation. T
he .txt file includes the plain ASCII version =0Aof the Lightning-List Dige
st and can be viewed with a generic text editor =0Asuch as Notepad or with
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AM - November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month! (Matt =0ADralle)
=0A 1. 06:46 AM - Re: Lightning builders (nick otterback)=0A 2. 06
:59 AM - parts (Tex Mantell)=0A 3. 08:23 AM - Re: Lightning builders
()=0A 4. 12:45 PM - COM & Transponder Antennas (Mefford, Walt)=0A
5. 01:08 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (Jim Langley)=0A 6. 01:4
8 PM - Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (Mefford, Walt)=0A 7. 02:42 PM -
Re: COM & Transponder Antennas (Jim Langley)=0A 8. 03:00 PM - Re: COM
& Transponder Antennas (JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA =0AMATHIAS)=0A 9. 03:55
PM - Re: parts (Mark Stauffer)=0A =0A =0A =0A____________________________
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43 AM PST US=0AFrom: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>=0ASubject: Lightnin
g-List: November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month!=0A=0A=0ADear Li
sters,=0A=0AYou've probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up
windows or spam=0Afrom any of the List and Forum services at Matronics. Th
ese include, for =0Aexample:=0A=0A The Email List Postings - http://www.
matronics.com/listbrowse=0A=0A The Email List Forum Site - http://forums
.matronics.com=0A=0A The List Wiki - http://wiki.matronics.com=0A=0A
The List Search Engine - http://www.matronics.com/search=0A=0AThis is becau
se I have always enjoyed a List experience that was completely =0Aabout=0At
he sport we enjoy - airplanes - and not about advertising!=0A=0ABut running
a high performance, highly available service like this isn't free =0Aand
=0Aa fair amount of money in terms of computer upgrades, business-class Int
ernet=0Aconnectivity, and electricity. Consequently, many similar sites tu
rn to =0Aadvertising=0Ato support these costs. Advertising that you have t
o look at each and=0Aevery time you read an email message or browse the the
ir web site.=0A=0ARather than subject my List community to another constant
commercial =0Abombardment,=0AI have chosen to hold a PBS-like fund raiser
each year in November to support=0Athe continued operation and upgrade of t
he List services. It's solely through=0Athe Contributions of List members
that the Lists and Forums continue to be=0Apossible!=0A=0ADuring the month,
I will be sending out a Fund Raiser reminder message every few=0Adays and
I ask for your patience and understanding during the month throughout=0Athe
se regular messages. Think of them as PBS' Pledge Breaks... :-) =0A=0ATo
minimize the impact of the Fund Raiser on the List community, I implemented
=0Aa new feature late last year specifically related to making Contribution
s. If=0Ayou are an Email List subscriber, once you make a Contribution usi
ng the online=0Aweb site, you will no longer receive the email from me rega
rding the Fund =0ARaiser!=0AThere are a couple of exceptions to this, howev
er. If someone replies=0Ato a Contribution message I've sent, you might re
ceive that. Additionally, the=0Amessages will always be posted to the Foru
ms site. To a first order, however,=0Aonce you make a Contribution, you wo
n't get my email messages about the Fund=0ARaiser for the rest of the month
. For Contributions by check, the squelch=0Awill take effect once the chec
k is received.=0A=0AThere is a whole new line up of really great Contributi
on gifts this year! When=0Ayou make a qualifying Contribution, you can sel
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ck <vettin74@yahoo.com>=0ASubject: RE: Lightning-List: Lightning builders
=0A=0AColin..the cut outs are suppose to be there...i think we may have to
check up =0Awith=0Athe fiberglass shop....=0A =0A nick=0A=0A"Colin J. Ke
nnedy" <cjk129@cox.net> wrote:=0A v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)
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le-type:=0Apersonal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } Mark
S. or Nic,=0A =0A Are there any plans to deliver future kits with the cu
t-outs for rudder and =0Aharness=0Acables already made in the aft-fuselage
bulkhead ?=0A =0A Colin K.=0A Ok=0A (Kit on order. deposit paid! :-)
=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A---------------------------------=0A=0A
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-lis
t-server@matronics.com] =0AOn Behalf Of Bill=0ASent: Friday, October 12, 20
07 11:38 AM=0ASubject: Lightning-List: Lightning builders=0A=0A =0A Hi A
ll,=0A=0AI'd like to get the names and Email addresses of all Lightning bui
lders that are=0Anot using builder assist programs. The builder's manual d
oes not give enough=0Adetail about how some parts are installed and or asse
mbled. Dimensional values=0Aand reference points are, at times, hard to co
mprehend as well. I believe=0Athis special group of builders could benefit
from sharing their unique =0Aexperiences=0Awith others in like situations.
This would save some phone calls to Arion.=0A=0ASo far in my build I have
had the following issues to contend with:=0A=0A1. Aft fuselage bulkhead (
not vertical stab) installed with elevator push-pull=0Atube rectangle cutou
t but, no holes cut for rudder and harness cables. Its =0Agoing=0Ato be a
bear getting into this area to cut these holes with a hole saw and=0Ato lo
cate them accurately as well.=0A=0A2. The mid-elevator bell crank, which i
s installed in a slot in the seat back,=0Adoes not give a picture of how th
is is assembled prior to installation so it=0Ais up to you to determine how
many washers and where they are located in this=0Aassembly. The builder m
anual says that the long pivot horn should not stick up=0Aabove the break i
n the seat back but, the picture they provide clearly shows=0Athat it does.
=0A=0ABill in Tucson, Kit #49=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Li
ghtning-List=0A=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0A=0A=0A href="http:/
/www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navig
ator?Lightning-List =0Ahref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.
matronics.com =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________
__=0A=0A________________________________ Message 2 ______________________
_______________=0A=0A=0ATime: 06:59:25 AM PST US=0AFrom: "Tex Mantell" <wb2
ssj@earthlink.net>=0ASubject: Lightning-List: parts =0A=0AMark, got the pa
rts today . That was fast. ThankYou=0A=0ATEX=0A=0A_________________________
_______ Message 3 _____________________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 08:
23:00 AM PST US=0AFrom: <cjk129@cox.net>=0ASubject: RE: Lightning-List: Lig
htning builders=0A=0A=0AThanks Nick. I got the same answer from Mark and he
was going to follow up.=0A=0AColin K.=0AOK=0A---- nick otterback <vettin74
@yahoo.com> wrote: =0A> Colin..the cut outs are suppose to be there...i thi
nk we may have to check up=0Awith the fiberglass shop....=0A> =0A> nic
k=0A> =0A> "Colin J. Kennedy" <cjk129@cox.net> wrote:=0A> v\:* { BE
HAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: =0Aurl(#default#VML)=0A}
w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: =0Aurl(#defau
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page: Section1 } Mark S. or Nic,=0A> =0A> Are there any plans
to deliver future kits with the cut-outs for rudder and=0Aharness cables a
lready made in the aft-fuselage bulkhead ?=0A> =0A> Colin K.=0A> Ok
=0A> (Kit on order. deposit paid! :-)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>
=0A> ---------------------------------=0A> =0A> From: owner-lightnin
g-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.c
om] =0AOn Behalf Of Bill=0A> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:38 AM=0A> To
: lightning-list@matronics.com=0A> Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning build
ers=0A> =0A> =0A> Hi All,=0A> =0A> I'd like to get the names and Email
addresses of all Lightning builders that=0Aare not using builder assist pr
ograms. The builder's manual does not give =0Aenough=0Adetail about how so
me parts are installed and or assembled. Dimensional values=0Aand referenc
e points are, at times, hard to comprehend as well. I believe=0Athis speci
al group of builders could benefit from sharing their unique =0Aexperiences
=0Awith others in like situations. This would save some phone calls to Ari
on.=0A> =0A> So far in my build I have had the following issues to contend
with:=0A> =0A> 1. Aft fuselage bulkhead (not vertical stab) installed with
elevator =0Apush-pull=0Atube rectangle cutout but, no holes cut for rudder
and harness cables. Its=0Agoing to be a bear getting into this area to cu
t these holes with a hole saw=0Aand to locate them accurately as well.=0A>
=0A> 2. The mid-elevator bell crank, which is installed in a slot in the
seat =0Aback,=0Adoes not give a picture of how this is assembled prior to i
nstallation so it=0Ais up to you to determine how many washers and where th
ey are located in this=0Aassembly. The builder manual says that the long p
ivot horn should not stick=0Aup above the break in the seat back but, the p
icture they provide clearly shows=0Athat it does.=0A> =0A> Bill in Tucson,
Kit #49=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A
> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning
-List=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> http://forums.matronics.co
m=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navi
gator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
=0Ahref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =0A>
=0A> =0A> =0A> __________________________________________________=0A=0A
=0A________________________________ Message 4 ___________________________
__________=0A=0A=0ATime: 12:45:25 PM PST US=0ASubject: Lightning-List: COM
& Transponder Antennas=0AFrom: "Mefford, Walt" <walt.mefford@garmin.com>=0A
=0AI am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some
=0Aof you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?=0A
=0A=0AWalt Mefford=0A=0A=0A------------------------- =0AThis e-mail and any
attachments may contain confidential material for the s=0Aole use of the i
ntended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, =0Aplease be awa
re that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e=0A-mail or a
ny attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in=0A error,
please contact the sender and delete all copies. =0AThank you for your coo
peration =0A=0A=0A________________________________ Message 5 ____________
_________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 01:08:59 PM PST US=0AFrom: "Jim Lan
gley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>=0ASubject: Re: Lightning-List: COM & Transponde
r Antennas=0A=0AWalt:=0A=0AThis is what I used.=0A=0Ahttp://www.aircraftspr
uce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php=0A=0AJim!=0A=0A=0AOn 11/1/07, Me
fford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:=0A>=0A> I am kind of curious
about some of the COM and Transponder antennas some=0A> of you have selecte
d for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?=0A>=0A>=0A> Walt Mefford
=0A>=0A> -------------------------=0A>=0A> This e-mail and any attachments
may contain confidential material for the=0A> sole use of the intended reci
pient. If you are not the intended recipient,=0A> please be aware that any
disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this=0A> e-mail or any attachme
nt is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in=0A> error, please con
tact the sender and delete all copies.=0A>=0A> Thank you for your cooperati
on=0A>=0A>=0A> *=0A>=0A> *=0A>=0A>=0A=0A________________________________ M
essage 6 _____________________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 01:48:55 PM P
ST US=0ASubject: RE: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas=0AFrom: "Me
fford, Walt" <walt.mefford@garmin.com>=0A=0AThanks Jim:=0A=0A=0AI have been
looking at them. Where did you mount them?=0A=0A=0AWalt=0A=0A=0A_________
_______________________=0A=0AFrom: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.co
m=0A[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim=0AL
angley=0ASent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Lightning
-List: COM & Transponder Antennas=0A=0A=0AWalt:=0A=0A=0AThis is what I used
.=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
=0A=0A=0AJim!=0A=0A=0AOn 11/1/07, Mefford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> w
rote: =0A=0AI am kind of curious about some of the COM and Transponder ante
nnas some=0Aof you have selected for your Lightning aircraft. Any suggesti
ons? =0A=0A=0AWalt Mefford=0A=0A------------------------- =0A=0AThis e-mail
and any attachments may contain confidential material for=0Athe sole use o
f the intended recipient. If you are not the intended=0Arecipient, please b
e aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or=0Ause of this e-mail
or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received=0Athis e-mail in erro
r, please contact the sender and delete all copies. =0A=0AThank you for you
r cooperation =0A=0A=0A________________________________ Message 7 _______
______________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 02:42:15 PM PST US=0AFrom: "Ji
m Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>=0ASubject: Re: Lightning-List: COM & Trans
ponder Antennas=0A=0AI haven't mounted it next. That will be taken care of
on my next trips down=0Ato work on the aircraft. The comm antenna get's m
ounted about halfway back=0Ainside the fuse shell.in a vertical plane. It
wraps around the the inside=0Aof the fuse like a "C".=0A=0AJim!=0A=0A=0AOn
11/1/07, Mefford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:=0A>=0A> Thanks Jim
:=0A>=0A>=0A> I have been looking at them. Where did you mount them?=0A>
=0A>=0A> Walt=0A>=0A>=0A> ------------------------------=0A>=0A> *From:* o
wner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:=0A> owner-lightning-list-
server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Langley=0A> *Sent:* Thursday, Nove
mber 01, 2007 1:07 PM=0A> *To:* lightning-list@matronics.com=0A> *Subject:*
Re: Lightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas=0A>=0A>=0A> Walt:=0A>=0A>
=0A> This is what I used.=0A>=0A>=0A> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog
/avpages/antennasystems.php=0A>=0A>=0A> Jim!=0A>=0A>=0A> On 11/1/07, *Meffo
rd, Walt* <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote:=0A>=0A> I am kind of curious abo
ut some of the COM and Transponder antennas some=0A> of you have selected f
or your Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?=0A>=0A>=0A> Walt Mefford=0A>
=0A> -------------------------=0A>=0A> This e-mail and any attachments may
contain confidential material for the=0A> sole use of the intended recipien
t. If you are not the intended recipient,=0A> please be aware that any disc
losure, copying, distribution or use of this=0A> e-mail or any attachment i
s prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in=0A> error, please contact
the sender and delete all copies.=0A>=0A> Thank you for your cooperation
=0A>=0A>=0A> * *=0A>=0A> * *=0A>=0A> * *=0A>=0A>=0A> * *=0A>=0A> * *=0A>=0A
> **=0A>=0A> **=0A>=0A> **=0A>=0A> **=0A>=0A> **=0A>=0A> **=0A>=0A> * *=0A>
=0A> *=0A>=0A> *=0A>=0A>=0A=0A________________________________ Message 8
_____________________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 03:00:03 PM PST US=0AFr
om: "JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS" <lbmathias@verizon.net>=0ASubject: Re: L
ightning-List: COM & Transponder Antennas=0A=0A Walt,=0A=0A I used th
e Jim Weir copper tape and built the antennas for all but =0Atransponder; I
used the AAE transponder antenna.=0A=0A
=0A Linda =0A ----- Original Messa
ge ----- =0A From: Mefford, Walt =0A To: lightning-list@matronics.com
=0A Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:44 PM=0A Subject: Lightning-
List: COM & Transponder Antennas=0A=0A=0A I am kind of curious about som
e of the COM and Transponder antennas =0Asome of you have selected for your
Lightning aircraft. Any suggestions?=0A=0A=0A Walt Mefford=0A=0A --
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___________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 03:55:26 PM PST US=0AFrom: "Mark
Stauffer" <mark.stauffer1@gmail.com>=0ASubject: RE: Lightning-List: parts
=0A=0ATex,=0A=0A=0AYou're very welcome. I still owe you and un-painted pilo
t side step.=0A=0A=0AMark=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-lightning-list-server@matroni
cs.com=0A[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Te
x Mantell=0ASent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:59 AM=0ASubject: Lightning-
List: parts =0A=0A=0AMark, got the parts today . That was fast. ThankYou=0A
=0A=0ATEX=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AEmail and AIM finally to
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