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1. 06:19 AM - Re: Lightning insurance (Pete)
2. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: E-LSA Insurance (EAFerguson@AOL.COM)
3. 07:09 AM - Re: Re: E-LSA Insurance (Pete)
4. 07:59 AM - Re: Lightning insurance (Wayne Lenox)
5. 08:51 AM - Re: N730AL (Jim Langley)
6. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: E-LSA Insurance (Wayne Lenox)
7. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: E-LSA Insurance (Mark Stauffer)
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| Subject: | Lightning insurance |
Wayne,
You need to contact the right agent in Falcon agency. Some of the agents
are not willing to go through the work to present your case to an
underwriter and automatically say no. I highly recommend Bob Mackey, a VP
of Falcon located in Oshkosh WI. He is the agent more familiar with
Experimentals than any other Falcon agent and knows how to show an
underwriter from AIG or Global that a Lightning would be a good plane to
insure. Bob has arranged the insurance for about 10 Lightnings so far,
including the prototype. Contact him at 920-230-3252.
Pete Krotje
Arion Aircraft
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Lenox
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning insurance
Thanks
I have tried Falcon insurance. They said no to the Lightning. Gave me a
quote for the Jabriu 250 and it was over twice what I pay for my C182. I
will try again with SLSA and see if that makes a difference.
Colin
I am not up to speed on LSA and E-LSA or experimental LSA. What is SLSA?
Thanks, Wayne
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| Subject: | Re: E-LSA Insurance |
Colin,
That would be news to me. Mine is certainly not an SLSA. It is a kit built
that meets LSA requirements, i.e. an E-LSA.
Earl
In a message dated 12/27/2007 10:32:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cjk129@cox.net writes:
I thought a company could only deliver an ELSA kit if they already produced
a SLSA.
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| Subject: | Re: E-LSA Insurance |
Earl,
I believe your aircraft is an experimental amateur built. At least that is
what the FAA has it as.
Pete Krotje
Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC
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[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
EAFerguson@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: E-LSA Insurance
Colin,
That would be news to me. Mine is certainly not an SLSA. It is a kit built
that meets LSA requirements, i.e. an E-LSA.
Earl
In a message dated 12/27/2007 10:32:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cjk129@cox.net writes:
I thought a company could only deliver an ELSA kit if they already produced
a SLSA.
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| Subject: | Lightning insurance |
Pete
Thanks for the help. I have forwarded your email to Falcon.
Wayne
-- "Pete" <pete@flylightning.net> wrote:
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:office:smarttags" />Wayne,
You need to contact the right agent in Falcon agency. Some of the agent
s are not willing to go through the work to present your case to an unde
rwriter and automatically say no. I highly recommend Bob Mackey, a VP o
f Falcon located in Oshkosh WI. He is the agent more familiar with Expe
rimentals than any other Falcon agent and knows how to show an underwrit
er from AIG or Global that a Lightning would be a good plane to insure.
Bob has arranged the insurance for about 10 Lightnings so far, includin
g the prototype. Contact him at 920-230-3252.
Pete Krotje
Arion Aircraft
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-
list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Lenox
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning insurance
Thanks
I have tried Falcon insurance. They said no to the Lightning. Gave me
a quote for the Jabriu 250 and it was over twice what I pay for my C182.
I will try again with SLSA and see if that makes a difference.
Colin
I am not up to speed on LSA and E-LSA or experimental LSA. What is SLSA
?
Thanks, Wayne
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Contact Gene Niswonger at Airgraphics. He does most of the graphics work
for Cirrus and completly understands the fonts, size and color combinations
that are usable.
P 608 831-7774
F 608 831-7722
E gniswonger@airgraphicsllc.com
On 12/27/07, Tex Mantell <wb2ssj@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> One question I have about the "N" number, the size is ok, but how much of
> a angle and what font will the FAA except? The preivos picture showed the
> number up on the tail and at a 45 degree angle. Have you researched this at
> all? Tex
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jim Langley <pequeajim@gmail.com>
> *To:* lightning-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:22 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Lightning-List: N730AL
>
>
> Thanks Tex
>
> I believe that the painter masked everything with tape. I had changed the
> design of where the tail number is located because the masking did not turn
> out quite like I had expected, and I wanted to do something to dress it up.
> The Lightning logo, number and strike are going to be graphics done for me
> to be applied later. The pic shows what they will look like, although the
> Lightning logo will be a different color.
>
> THanks for the encouragement.
>
> Jim!
>
>
> On 12/27/07, Tex Mantell <wb2ssj@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > WoW, the picture taken in the shop looks terrific. Did you use a paint
> > mask or did you lay out the design with tape? I see you changed the position
> > of your "N" number from the original layout. Looks good. How hard was it to
> > get the line over the tail section to look right? I may copy part of your
> > scheme for its the best I have seen yet. Tex
> >
> > **
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> *
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| Subject: | Re: E-LSA Insurance |
Thanks to all
With the wright info Falcon can give me a Quote on the Lightning. The a
gent just needed a little help.
Wayne
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| Subject: | Re: E-LSA Insurance |
Earl,
You plane is Experimental - Amateur Built. It just so happens that when you
completed your phase I testing and placed it into phase II your plane met
all the requirements to be flown under the light sport rules i.e. gross
weight, stall speed, cruise at max continuous RPM, etc.
Colin is correct. As far as I understand the definitions, an E-LSA is a kit
form of a production SLSA. It also does not have to adhere to the "51
percent" rule. Since the Lightning is not offered as an SLSA there cannot be
an E-LSA version.
As far as the number of Lightning's that conform to the Light Sport
parameters I'll have to go back and think about it. Off the top of my head I
can think of four that have gone through the builders assistance program
here in Shelbyville. I'm not sure how many, if any, that Ryan Gross at Green
Landings or Greg Hobbs in AZ have completed with their builders assistance
programs that meet the Light Sport parameters.
The bottom line concerning insurance is that we have 20 or so flying and as
far as I know all of them have insurance.
Hope this helps.
Happy Holidays from Arion Aircraft!!
Mark
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
EAFerguson@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: E-LSA Insurance
Colin,
That would be news to me. Mine is certainly not an SLSA. It is a kit built
that meets LSA requirements, i.e. an E-LSA.
Earl
In a message dated 12/27/2007 10:32:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cjk129@cox.net writes:
I thought a company could only deliver an ELSA kit if they already produced
a SLSA.
top rated recipes and easy
<http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aoltop00030000000003>
ways to stay in shape for winter.
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