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1. 06:57 AM - Re: MPG (flylightning)
2. 07:00 AM - Re: To Buz Re: cleaning up my plane (flylightning)
3. 07:49 AM - Re: MPG (Scotty)
4. 07:52 AM - Re: MPG (Scotty)
5. 09:33 AM - Re: MPG (Brian Whittingham)
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Brian,
Just bought a 2002 Mini Cooper S...32 city ..42+ hwy..and those are real
numbers ,have put a couple a thousand on it so far.
Nick
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian
Whittingham
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
I know that I've done a little over a 200 mile leg and burned about 6
gallons of gas. Should be about
33 mpg. Still, I bet none of your cars get that. Can you say that about a
Piper or a Cessna? Can you even say
that about a Cirrus? Brian W.
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| Subject: | To Buz re: cleaning up my plane |
Group,
Our 2007 demo built stock and flown with a 62 FK 58 wood prop would
regularly true out at 165@ 5000 feet at 2950-3000RPM ....and at 8000 would
get 170 TAS
The 2008 demo will run slightly more pitch maybe 60" and should run above
170.....This was not particularly cleaned up but built stock...wheel pants
and fairings....
Nick
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Dewey
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:02 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: To Buz re: cleaning up my plane
Buz- I was talking to Ryan @ Green Landings and he
said you did a great job cleaning up your plane to get
it to go much faster than any esqual lightning hybrid
should go. I'm looking for someone who can help clean
up my plane. The plane is located at Green Landings in
WV. Would you or anyone you know be willing to put in
the time to do it, with pay, of course. I want my
plane to really be ale to come close to the Lightning
published cruise speed. Right now I think I am about
20-25 mph off that mark. Ryan said with the new wood
prop and wheel pants on I will get closer, probably
within 10-15 mph of the magical 175. It also doesn't
help that I have extra weight witht the brs install. I
would be willing to work along side with you and put
you up in a hotel in WV and cover expenses. I really,
really want my Lightning to be as fast as possible.
Charles
--- Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know that I've done a little over a 200 mile leg
> and burned about 6 gallons of gas. Should be
> about33 mpg. Still, I bet none of your cars get
> that. Can you say that about a Piper or a Cessna?
> Can you even saythat about a Cirrus? Brian W.
>
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Hey Nick,
But will it go 175 mph, and go vertical?
I am looking at one also. They handle like a Lightning. Did you get the S-model?
Scotty
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168788#168788
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Okay I see it is a S model.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168792#168792
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Nick,
The Mini Cooper S is the turbocharged one too isn't it? I just bought a
2007 Ford Escape, and I'm getting 27mpg in the city. Wish I could have af
forded the hybrid though. 90 miles round trip to work in city traffic, yik
es! Brian W.
From: info@flylightning.netTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lig
htning-List: MPGDate: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:54:19 -0500
Brian,
Just bought a 2002 Mini Cooper S=85..32 city =85=8542+ hwy=85=85and those a
re real numbers ,have put a couple a thousand on it so far=85
Nick
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian WhittinghamSent: Saturday, March
08, 2008 11:39 AMTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lightning-Li
st: MPG
I know that I've done a little over a 200 mile leg and burned about 6 gallo
ns of gas. Should be about
33 mpg. Still, I bet none of your cars get that. Can you say that about a
Piper or a Cessna? Can you even saythat about a Cirrus? Brian W.
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I wish I had 90 miles round trip!! 63 miles each way on the 405 (for those of
you outside So Ca. The 405 goes from purgatory to hell! LOTS of traffic! Sometimes
the speeds approach 15 mph!!)
--
Have a blessed day!
Scott C. Arden
---- Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nick,
> The Mini Cooper S is the turbocharged one too isn't it? I just bought a 2007
Ford Escape, and I'm getting 27mpg in the city. Wish I could have afforded
the hybrid though. 90 miles round trip to work in city traffic, yikes! Brian
W.
>
>
> From: info@flylightning.netTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lightning-List:
MPGDate: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:54:19 -0500
>
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>
>
>
>
> Brian,
>
> Just bought a 2002 Mini Cooper S&..32 city &&42+ hwy&&and those are real numbers
,have put a couple a thousand on it so far&
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian WhittinghamSent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 11:39 AMTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
>
> I know that I've done a little over a 200 mile leg and burned about 6 gallons
of gas. Should be about
> 33 mpg. Still, I bet none of your cars get that. Can you say that about a Piper
or a Cessna? Can you even saythat about a Cirrus? Brian W.
>
>
>
>
> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail-get your "fix". Check it out. http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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We have to put premium in it but still don't put more than 40 bucks in to
fill er up
nick
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian
Whittingham
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
Nick,
The Mini Cooper S is the turbocharged one too isn't it? I just bought a
2007 Ford Escape, and I'm getting 27mpg in the city. Wish
I could have afforded the hybrid though. 90 miles round trip to work in
city traffic, yikes! Brian W.
_____
From: info@flylightning.net
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
Brian,
Just bought a 2002 Mini Cooper S...32 city ..42+ hwy..and those are real
numbers ,have put a couple a thousand on it so far.
Nick
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian
Whittingham
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
I know that I've done a little over a 200 mile leg and burned about 6
gallons of gas. Should be about
33 mpg. Still, I bet none of your cars get that. Can you say that about a
Piper or a Cessna? Can you even say
that about a Cirrus? Brian W.
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I got both of you beat...how about 145 miles of commuting to and from our n
ations Capital each and every day.
Four + hours !
The + depends on how bad the traffic is backed up on the DC beltway, or on
the mighty 301....
Sure wish I had an autopilot-for my car!
Rick
N727RB> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:08:06 -0700> From: scottarden@cox.net> To
: lightning-list@matronics.com> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG> > --> Lig
htning-List message posted by: <scottarden@cox.net>> > I wish I had 90 mile
s round trip!! 63 miles each way on the 405 (for those of you outside So Ca
. The 405 goes from purgatory to hell! LOTS of traffic! Sometimes the speed
s approach 15 mph!!)> --> Have a blessed day!> Scott C. Arden> > ---- Brian
Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Nick,> > The Mini Cooper
S is the turbocharged one too isn't it? I just bought a 2007 Ford Escape, a
nd I'm getting 27mpg in the city. Wish I could have afforded the hybrid tho
ugh. 90 miles round trip to work in city traffic, yikes! Brian W.> > > > >
> From: info@flylightning.netTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: L
ightning-List: MPGDate: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:54:19 -0500> > > >
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Rick,
I keep looking for those flying cars that they promised 50 to 60 years a
go, sure would be nice. I understand that the technology does exist for ca
rs to have autopilot now, but you'd need whole cities retrofitted for it.
Then how do you deal with a mixture of vehicles that are all manual and if
you have a wreck when two vehicles are on autopilot, who's insurance pays?
Darn! Brian W.
From: rollnloop@hotmail.comTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lig
htning-List: MPGDate: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:27:38 +0000
I got both of you beat...how about 145 miles of commuting to and from our n
ations Capital each and every day.Four + hours !The + depends on how bad th
e traffic is backed up on the DC beltway, or on the mighty 301....Sure wish
I had an autopilot-for my car!RickN727RB> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:08:06
-0700> From: scottarden@cox.net> To: lightning-list@matronics.com> Subject:
en@cox.net>> > I wish I had 90 miles round trip!! 63 miles each way on the
405 (for those of you outside So Ca. The 405 goes from purgatory to hell! L
OTS of traffic! Sometimes the speeds approach 15 mph!!)> --> Have a blessed
day!> Scott C. Arden> > ---- Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com> wrote
: > > > > Nick,> > The Mini Cooper S is the turbocharged one too isn't it?
I just bought a 2007 Ford Escape, and I'm getting 27mpg in the city. Wish I
could have afforded the hybrid though. 90 miles round trip to work in city
traffic, yikes! Brian W.> > > > > > From: info@flylightning.netTo: lightni
ng-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lightning-List: MPGDate: Mon, 10 Mar 2008
08:54:19 -0500> > > >
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10 miles round trip, and that is if I go out of my way to wal-mart for groceries
...
nick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scottarden@cox.net
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
I wish I had 90 miles round trip!! 63 miles each way on the 405 (for those of
you outside So Ca. The 405 goes from purgatory to hell! LOTS of traffic! Sometimes
the speeds approach 15 mph!!)
--
Have a blessed day!
Scott C. Arden
---- Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nick,
> The Mini Cooper S is the turbocharged one too isn't it? I just bought a 2007
Ford Escape, and I'm getting 27mpg in the city. Wish I could have afforded
the hybrid though. 90 miles round trip to work in city traffic, yikes! Brian
W.
>
>
> From: info@flylightning.netTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lightning-List:
MPGDate: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:54:19 -0500
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian,
>
> Just bought a 2002 Mini Cooper S&..32 city &&42+ hwy&&and those are real numbers
,have put a couple a thousand on it so far&
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian WhittinghamSent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 11:39 AMTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
>
> I know that I've done a little over a 200 mile leg and burned about 6 gallons
of gas. Should be about
> 33 mpg. Still, I bet none of your cars get that. Can you say that about a Piper
or a Cessna? Can you even saythat about a Cirrus? Brian W.
>
>
>
>
> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail-get your "fix". Check it out. http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
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And the winner is.....Rick Bowen!! My hat is off to you sir!! I'd be marginally
suicidal!!
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Scott C. Arden
---- Rick Bowen <rollnloop@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I got both of you beat...how about 145 miles of commuting to and from our nations
Capital each and every day.
> Four + hours !
> The + depends on how bad the traffic is backed up on the DC beltway, or on the
mighty 301....
> Sure wish I had an autopilot-for my car!
> Rick
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Come on Rick. You've got an airplane and a grass strip..... There's Suburban
Airport, College Park, Potomac Airfield, and Hyde Executive(?). Just keep a
beater at the airport and drive in from there. Don't let the ADIZ or FRZ
deter you!!
All in fun!
Have a great day!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Bowen
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:28 AM
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
I got both of you beat...how about 145 miles of commuting to and from our
nations Capital each and every day.
Four + hours !
The + depends on how bad the traffic is backed up on the DC beltway, or on
the mighty 301....
Sure wish I had an autopilot-for my car!
Rick
N727RB
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:08:06 -0700
> From: scottarden@cox.net
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
>
>
> I wish I had 90 miles round trip!! 63 miles each way on the 405 (for
those of you outside So Ca. The 405 goes from purgatory to hell! LOTS of
traffic! Sometimes the speeds approach 15 mph!!)
> --
> Have a blessed day!
> Scott C. Arden
>
> ---- Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Nick,
> > The Mini Cooper S is the turbocharged one too isn't it? I just bought
a 2007 Ford Escape, and I'm getting 27mpg in the city. Wish I could have
afforded the hybrid though. 90 miles round trip to work in city traffic,
yikes! Brian W.
> >
> >
> > From: info@flylightning.netTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject:
RE: Lightning-List: MPGDate: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:54:19 -0500
> >
> >
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Hey Nick: You told me that Mini was Dana's. Was that just so she would do
the mechanic work?
Lynn
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No, its hers I just get to drive it when she lets me!!!
Now the vette on the other hand....and I don't want to know the milege on it
either.
nick
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Subject: Re: Lightning-List: MPG
Hey Nick: You told me that Mini was Dana's. Was that just so she would do
the mechanic work?
Lynn
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Scott:
This may be the only way you see the 405 empty...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIhgTQV5AgU
Jim!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scottarden@cox.net
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
I wish I had 90 miles round trip!! 63 miles each way on the 405 (for those of
you outside So Ca. The 405 goes from purgatory to hell! LOTS of traffic! Sometimes
the speeds approach 15 mph!!)
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Scott C. Arden
---- Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nick,
> The Mini Cooper S is the turbocharged one too isn't it? I just bought a 2007
Ford Escape, and I'm getting 27mpg in the city. Wish I could have afforded
the hybrid though. 90 miles round trip to work in city traffic, yikes! Brian
W.
>
>
> From: info@flylightning.netTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lightning-List:
MPGDate: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:54:19 -0500
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian,
>
> Just bought a 2002 Mini Cooper S&..32 city &&42+ hwy&&and those are real numbers
,have put a couple a thousand on it so far&
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian WhittinghamSent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 11:39 AMTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lightning-List: MPG
>
> I know that I've done a little over a 200 mile leg and burned about 6 gallons
of gas. Should be about
> 33 mpg. Still, I bet none of your cars get that. Can you say that about a Piper
or a Cessna? Can you even saythat about a Cirrus? Brian W.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Trim System |
Hi Bill and all,
Buz here. If I might, let me jump in here and try to save Nick some
valuable time as he and Mark are working hard to get the new 2008 Demo Lightning
ready for it's first flight. I probably have one of the few photos of the
trim system as Nick was building it for testing on the prototype. Nick sent
it to me some time ago and I plan to put it in the next Lightning newsletter
for all to see. And as an attempt at getting people excited about the next
newsletter, I might even include an early picture of the 2008 Demo fuselage as
it rolled out of the paint shop. Has anyone guessed what color it is not
going to be?
Blue Skies,
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| Subject: | Re: Arion www site down why? |
Josh,
I have been out of town so that is why I am just now getting around to
answering your message. I just wanted to say that you are doing exactly what
you should be doing at this point - gathering information. Read about as
many airplanes as you can and talk to as many knowledgeable people as you can.
But be aware that some that seem like they know what they are talking about
may not be the expert they try to pass themselves off as. Also, once you
decide what "the mission" will be for your future airplane, that will help narrow
down the choices. Are you looking for a weekend local area airplane or are
you looking for a good cross country bird, or a combination of both? Then
you need to decide what type of construction you want to do - wood, tube and
fabric, all metal, or composite, or in some cases, a combination. Which you
chose will determine what specific tools you will need and, to some extent, how
long it will take to complete your project. Basically what we are talking
about here is really several EAA presentations that I have given in the
distant past, but the bottom line is like I said up top. Gather as much
information as possible (also talk to builders), then narrow down your list and
get
demo flights of those airplanes that make your short list. Have fun, that is
what this is all about. And if you do your info gathering correctly, you will
have fun with your future building and flying.
Blue Skies,
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| Subject: | Re: To Buz re: cleaning up my plane |
Hi Charles,
I have been out of town so that is why I am just now getting around to
answering your last message. Apparently I stay way too busy, and my schedule
looks full through the fall.
The key to maximizing airspeed for any airplane is of course minimizing
drag. As you know the Lightning is pretty darn clean already, but there are
a few things you can do (as Nick had done at the factory) to add some MPH.
As I am sure Ryan has already mentioned, the gear leg fairings and wheel pants
that Arion has for the Lightning are the latest type of low pressure design
and will help lower drag quite a bit. But when you put the wheel fairings
on, you need to take the time to fit them properly so the any gap between the
fuselage bottom and the fairing is minimized and the same at the bottom end.
Then seal what gap is there some way. I use a combination of rubber edge
molding and plastic tape. Also, you need to make sure both fairings are exactly
inline with the aircraft centerline. If they are not, then you loose some
efficiency to the drag lowering effort. Recently, Linda and I noticed that
her airplane had developed a "ball out of center" condition which we finally
found was one of the gear leg farinings not being perfectly aligned. Obviously
that adds drag. After realigning the fairing it was much better. Remember
though that normally the ball will be centered at some trimmed airspeed.
Above that it will be on one side and below that to the other side.
Same thing with the wheel pants. They need to fit perfectly. And that
means in alignment with the airplane. So make sure they are installed so
that they align with the centerline of the airplane and that their nose and tail
are also aligned with the C/L. One other thing about making sure the wheel
pants are the most efficient is the gap between the tire and the pant. Too
much gap and you have ruined some of the efficiency of the pant. Too small a
gap and you will probably rub the pant with the tire and tear up some
fiberglass. I generally look for about the thickness of my index finger clearance
between the tire and the pant at the front and the real. On the sides, I look
for about the width of my index finger. To make things simple, use a half
inch for both if you have a strange size index finger like some of you monkeys
out there. If you are going to err on the cautious side, use slightly
more along the tire sidewalls where they tend to spread out on a harder than
normal landing. Yes, I know, none of us do that.
Some other things to do to reduce drag is to build your airplane square
and put all antennas inside. Antennas can be quite draggy and having a glass
airplane lets you put them inside the fiberglass structure to lower drag.
As to building you airplane square, take the time to make sure all angles of
incidence, etc. are as called for and the same on both sides. Do you have the
proper gap on the ailerons and flaps? Also, cooling drag can be worked on,
but Arion had done a good job on this already. But there is always room for
experimenting.
The last thing to do to insure the highest cruise speed (or top speed)
of your Lightning is to make sure you have the right propeller. Nick or Ryan
can give you a ball park or even suggest a particular size prop, but each
airplane is different. Some are built square, some are not. Some weigh more
than others and thus the airplane and engine work harder. Some have accurately
installed fairings and pants, others do not. And then there are engines -
some engines have more power than others. For a while the 3300 with the new
hydraulic lifters were down a little on horse power and RPM when compared with
the solid lifter engines. The new cam profile has fixed that. So which
engine do you have? If you really want to go faster, then don't use the ground
adjustable Sensenich. It is fine up to 150 to 160, but for some reason
seems to loose efficiency above those numbers. Nick and I both have set a ground
adjustable to the exact pitch of a fixed pitch wood prop, and the wooden
prop will always be faster. Not sure why, but it may have something to do with
the way the wood prop flexes or unloads at the higher rpms. As I have said
before, props are part science and part voodoo. I am still experimenting with
what will be best for N31BZ. I am currently running a 64ZK56, but will be
checking out a 62XX60 that Nick has waiting for me when I get the time (oh
yes, I have a solid lifter engine). I should be in Tennessee later this month
to both to try this new prop and to fly the new 2008 Demo.
Hope all this helps. Entire books have been written on this subject and
others will probably be written in the future. Perhaps this will be a good
discussion topic at the second annual Lightning fly-in.
Blue Skies,
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| Subject: | Re: To Buz re: cleaning up my plane |
In a message dated 3/10/2008 10:01:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
info@flylightning.net writes:
Our 2007 demo built stock and flown with a 62 FK 58 wood prop would
regularly true out at 165@ 5000 feet at 2950-3000RPM ....and at 8000 would
get 170 TAS
To add to what Nick said, the 2007 Demo also had the hydraulic lifter engine
that was down slightly on horse power and rpm. The engine in the 2008 Demo
will have the hydraulic lifter with the new cam profile that should return
the lost power and rpm. It should be a speed demon.
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