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1. 12:51 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real (Peter and Jan Disher)
2. 02:30 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
3. 02:57 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real (Brian Whittingham)
4. 02:59 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue # 2 (CHMIK@aol.com)
5. 03:05 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real (Brian Whittingham)
6. 03:10 AM - Re: trim (Brian Whittingham)
7. 03:23 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real (Tex Mantell)
8. 04:53 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue # 2 (N1BZRich@aol.com)
9. 05:02 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real (N1BZRich@aol.com)
10. 08:29 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real (Allan Maxwell)
11. 09:37 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real (Colin J. Kennedy)
12. 12:32 PM - Newsletter v. 2 (EAFerguson@aol.com)
13. 02:43 PM - Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you (Peter and Jan Disher)
14. 03:11 PM - Re: Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you (Jim and Mary Young)
15. 03:17 PM - Re: Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you (Brian Whittingham)
16. 03:21 PM - Re: Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
17. 03:33 PM - Re: Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you (Jim and Mary Young)
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real |
Yes, I will second that "The Lightning Buzz" a pretty good name, it
would bring it all together, the buzz of activity from aircraft to
editor.
But in the back of my mind I could still see Leader, "The Lightning
Leader", were else does one find 140Kts and 21Li. and getting better all
the time.
Pete Disher.
OZ
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From: Walt Mendenhall
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real
Great job Buz! As I said in my other email to you, I think a great
name would be LIGHTNING BUZZ for the news letter! A nice way to say
thanks and for all to remember where the news letter came from.
walt mendenhall
walt@mendenhallstudio.com
or mendw@onlinemac.com
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:16 PM
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real |
Hey Buzz: Great job! I like the Lightning Buzz name also. Keep it going.
I guess my kit is still waiting a number. I am really looking forward to
getting started on April 21 st. The N number will be N13LN. See you all in a
couple of weeks (at Sun N Fun).
Lynn Nelsen
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| Subject: | Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real |
Peter,
Those flap gaps filled in and flap hinge covers look great! Any chance
that you could see me a couple of those pics in higher
resolution? The results of all of my gap seal experiments are in and a TAS
of 6 knots was gained just by closing up that area under the wing mainly.
Never got a chance to test that with the flap hinge fairings, but figure o
n 2-3 knots which is what is typical for hinge fairings alone. Of course a
dding both will only increase the benefits, so it's quiet possible that you
r extra time and effort has gained you 10 extra knots of speed or a decreas
e in fuel burn at the same cruise speed. Trying to get the extra 10 knots
is going to be more than just 50 RPM for an aircraft unmodified like this a
nd therefore should be a good decrease in fuel consumption if you travel at
the original cruise speed. Get that carb set up right and get a good prop
on that plane and you'll have quiet possibly the fastest Lightning out the
re! Keep us updated once you get to test it! Thanks, Brian W.
P.S. Mind if I put one of those pics in the recommendations section of my t
hesis? As you might have guessed, this is what I would do instead of gap s
eals for a composite aircraft application in order to keep from having to m
aintain actual gap seals.
From: pjdisher@bigpond.comTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Ligh
tning-List: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for realDate: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 1
8:48:42 +1100
Yes, I will second that "The Lightning Buzz" a pretty good name, it would b
ring it all together, the buzz of activity from aircraft to editor.
But in the back of my mind I could still see Leader, "The Lightning Leader"
, were else does one find 140Kts and 21Li. and getting better all the time.
Pete Disher.
OZ
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From: Walt Mendenhall
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real
Great job Buz! As I said in my other email to you, I think a great name wo
uld be LIGHTNING BUZZ for the news letter! A nice way to say thanks and fo
r all to remember where the news letter came from.
walt mendenhall
walt@mendenhallstudio.com
or mendw@onlinemac.com
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comSent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:16 PMTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubj
ect: Lightning-List: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue # 2 |
Buz....I did not get the attachment, as of 0600 3/15... Can you send it
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| Subject: | Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real |
Buz,
Another good job! I think the suggestion of the Lightning Buzz sounds g
ood too. Not only does it give homage to the writer, but also the buzz tha
t is going on about the Lightning, as well as my favorite thing to do in th
e Lightning, buzz the field! ;-)
From: N1BZRich@aol.comDate: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:15:33 -0400Subject: Lightni
ng-List: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for realTo: lightning-list@matronic
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Dave,
That does look good. It's kind of funny. A similar fixed tab trim was
used on the Jabiru kits which are also sold at SYI. It's amazing what suc
h a small area added to the rear of the tail can do. Thanks for the pics.
Brian W.
From: corky@hbci.comTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: Lightning-List
: trimDate: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:12:30 -0500
Nick
I just wanted to let you know I don't think I'll be getting a trim kit for
the Esqual. I'll save it for the new Lightning. I decided to try this, "ph
otos", and believe it or not it works great. It took out about 75% of the t
ension from the bungee and trims at a slower rate. Took about 20 minutes t
o install and both elevators are working together. I still require slight
nose down trim to keep the auto pilot from searching for altitude. Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real |
This sounds great to me. Tex
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From: Walt Mendenhall
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real
Great job Buz! As I said in my other email to you, I think a great
name would be LIGHTNING BUZZ for the news letter! A nice way to say
thanks and for all to remember where the news letter came from.
walt mendenhall
walt@mendenhallstudio.com
or mendw@onlinemac.com
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
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N1BZRich@aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:16 PM
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue # 2 |
In a message dated 3/15/2008 6:00:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
CHMIK@aol.com writes:
I did not get the attachment, as of 0600 3/15... Can you send it
again....thanks....charlie keith
Charlie,
I will attach it again to this message. Hope to see you this morning at
the Chapter 1377 meeting. I will be flying the Cub down as I have had it up
here the last few weeks mentoring a neighborhood kit that has just started
taking lessons. Obviously the first tailwheel time he has and he is having a
hard time even taxiing. Any way, I may be giving J3 rides after the meeting
if you are interested.
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real |
In a message dated 3/15/2008 5:31:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
IFLYSMODEL@aol.com writes:
I guess my kit is still waiting a number. I am really looking forward to
getting started on April 21 st. The N number will be N13LN. See you all in a
couple of weeks (at Sun N Fun).
Hi Lynn,
So maybe you are #60 - the Your name, Your town, call Dana - guy. I am
sure she will keep me updated for future issues. When you start your build
on 21 April, how about giving the newsletter some progress photos and words
during your experience. Something along the lines of "Here is the progress
after week one, week two, etc. with photos and words to explain what all has
been done.
Yes, Sun-N-Fun is getting close and I hope we have a good turnout. Nick
or Pete, if you are reading this how about setting a time and place for a
get together. Also, did you get a Lightning forum scheduled for this year? I
will be arriving early again this year - weather permitting will get there 4
April - and will be camping again with my friends in the Vintage area. Will
be volunteering in the Type Club Tent at the American Bonanza Society table
for a few hours each day. We probably need a "sign in" sheet at the Arion
booth so we can see who has arrived and leave messages for each other.
Blue Skies,
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real |
Hey Buzz: great job. I like the lightning buzz name also
Allan Maxwell
IFLYSMODEL@aol.com wrote:
Hey Buzz: Great job! I like the Lightning Buzz name also. Keep it going.
I guess my kit is still waiting a number. I am really looking forward to
getting started on April 21 st. The N number will be N13LN. See you all in a couple
of weeks (at Sun N Fun).
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| Subject: | Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real |
I vote for Lightning Buz too.
Thank you Buz!
Colin K.
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:16 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Newsletter, Issue #2 for real
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Buz,
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| Subject: | Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you |
G'Day Brian,
I've got many pictures here Brian, but I'm not sure how many can be sent
on matronics, is there not a limit? maybe send me your email address.
There are three sizes, long at the aircraft end, 2" shorter for the
middle and modified to clear the aileron. Can send more pics of these
and drawing if you want.
Are these pictures any better quality?
Pete Disher
You have been sent 5 pictures.
IMG_2957.JPG
IMG_2958.JPG
IMG_2959.JPG
IMG_2962.JPG
IMG_2966.JPG
These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google.
Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/
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| Subject: | Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you |
I've seen several people ask the question about somebody else's email
address. If the person you're interested in sending an email to has posted
on the Matronics site, their personal email should be posted at the top of
every matronics email. For example, here's what was on the top of the email
from peter disher:
Lightning-List: Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you
owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
<BLOCKED::mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com> ; on behalf of;
Peter and Jan Disher [pjdisher@bigpond.com]
In this case, Peter's personal email is pjdisher@bigpond.com
<BLOCKED::mailto:pjdisher@bigpond.com> . Maybe my email client is the only
one that shows it?
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| Subject: | Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you |
Peter,
Thanks, that's what I was wanting. Those 5 pictures give me a good ide
a. Looks exactly what I sketched out for Lamont at Jabiru. It's basically
a minimum clearance with sloping lines so that it's not harsh angles. Gre
at job of fabricating. Also really good at sealing up that gap in the wing
. We got the exact same stall speed with flaps in the up position. With t
hem in the down position I would expect that stall speed will increase slig
htly, but not much. Takeoff run will be a tiny percentage more, but say it
's 1.5% of a 500-600 foot takeoff roll, you're talking about less than 10 f
eet. Control pressures were identical to the unmodified aircraft. Oh, and
the 6 knots gain that I got with our gap seal experiment on the Lightning
was at a cruise of 2850 RPM. The trend is towards the faster that you go t
he more you'll see from these cleanups. Again, great job and let us know o
nce you get in the air and start testing it what kind of speeds and fuel bu
rns that you get. Thanks for the pics, Brian W.
oh, and my personal email is dashvii@hotmail.com if anybody wants to email
me.
From: pjdisher@bigpond.comTo: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: Lightnin
g-List: Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for youDate: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:39
:51 +1100
G'Day Brian,
I've got many pictures here Brian, but I'm not sure how many can be sent on
matronics, is there not a limit? maybe send me your email address.
There are three sizes, long at the aircraft end, 2" shorter for the middle
and modified to clear the aileron. Can send more pics of these and drawing
if you want.
Are these pictures any better quality?
Pete Disher
You have been sent 5 pictures.IMG_2957.JPGIMG_2958.JPGIMG_2959.JPGIMG_2962
.JPGIMG_2966.JPGThese pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google.Try it ou
t here: http://picasa.google.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you |
In a message dated 3/15/2008 6:13:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jimandmary@fastmail.us writes:
Maybe my email client is the only one that shows it?
Hey Jim and Mary, the email address is shown on each and every email. To
send something to just the individual and not the list you must copy the address
and write the email separately.
Lynn
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| Subject: | Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you |
That was what I was trying to say but I guess I must have written it in U.S.
English ( as opposed to English English) as my good friend from Perth is
fond of reminding me!
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[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flap hindge covers - 5 pictures for you
In a message dated 3/15/2008 6:13:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jimandmary@fastmail.us writes:
Maybe my email client is the only one that shows it?
Hey Jim and Mary, the email address is shown on each and every email. To
send something to just the individual and not the list you must copy the
address and write the email separately.
Lynn
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