Lightning-List Digest Archive

Tue 04/15/08


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:08 AM - Re: Picture from Sun n Fun (Fred Zuccarelli)
     2. 05:44 AM - Re: Picture from Sun n Fun (Kayberg@aol.com)
     3. 05:53 AM - Re: Picture from Sun n Fun (Kayberg@aol.com)
     4. 06:19 AM - New videos up on the site (Jim Langley)
     5. 06:59 AM - Re: Picture from Sun n Fun (Jim Langley)
     6. 07:20 AM - Buddy's aircraft (Jim Langley)
     7. 12:34 PM - Trim product seen at Sun n Fun (Mark Stauffer)
     8. 02:40 PM - Re: Picture from Sun n Fun (Robert Lancaster)
     9. 09:33 PM - Re: Picture from Sun n Fun (N1BZRich@aol.com)
    10. 10:24 PM - Re: New videos up on the site (Wayne Patterson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:08:34 AM PST US
    From: Fred Zuccarelli <fredzuccarelli@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Picture from Sun n Fun
    Thanks to those that sent pics!!!!!! I have admired...well actually drooled over this plane for the last 2 years of Sun n Fun. Being a novice pilot with about 150 hours of flying only a cessna 172, my fear is the transition from a yoke to stick. I have been reassured by almost everyone that it is not an issue and will be easy. Can anyone offer some advice on this? I live in SW Florida where the weather makes for ideal flying and I'll be working on my IFR rating this summer if time permits. I'll be using the plane for personal enjoyment flying Florida. Any advice? Thanks. I too hope to become a lightning builder/owner soon!!! Fred On Apr 14, 2008, at 10:36 PM, N1BZRich@aol.com wrote: > Here is one for now. The next newsletter will have several more and > complete SNF coverage. Other SNF attendees will probably post some > additional photos of the "2008 Sun-N-Fun Best Homebuilt Composite > Aircraft". > Buz > <SNF%202008%20111.JPG> > > > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance.


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    Time: 05:44:50 AM PST US
    From: Kayberg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Picture from Sun n Fun
    In a message dated 4/15/2008 7:09:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fredzuccarelli@gmail.com writes: Thanks to those that sent pics!!!!!! I have admired...well actually drooled over this plane for the last 2 years of Sun n Fun. Being a novice pilot with about 150 hours of flying only a cessna 172, my fear is the transition from a yoke to stick. I have been reassured by almost everyone that it is not an issue and will be easy. Can anyone offer some advice on this? My experience in helping transition from wheel to stick is that after about an hour most people could fly the plane .....but a little rough After about 2 more flights of an hour or so, they did fine. After 4 or 5 hours, the normal pilot skills should be evident. It is a little like the guy who woke up after brain surgery and asked the Doc, "Will I be able to play the piano?" The doc reasured him that he would be able to. "That's good, because I couldn't play before" If you were a good pilot before you grabbed the stick, it helps. If you dont fly the 172 well, you wont fly the Lightning well. Doug Koenigsberg **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850)


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    Time: 05:53:09 AM PST US
    From: Kayberg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Picture from Sun n Fun
    In a message dated 4/14/2008 10:26:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fredzuccarelli@gmail.com writes: Nick, Mark, Mike and Pete. Congratulations to all of you guys for that winning effort. I just wish I could have been there at the awards ceremony with you but I had other obligations that evening. It was great to get the phone call from Nick that evening letting me know what you guys won. Fantastic. From past experience I knew that all the judges initials on your prop card meant that you were in the running. Now Lancair will have to "take notice" of the outstanding product coming out of SYI. Not that you are in the same market segment, but that your quality is now judged to be the "best" of the composite aircraft. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah We are just bitter as hell at Green Landings. It was an insider deal. We clearly had the best looking Lightning at the whole damn show. Just ask Buddy! Pete must have bought off the judges!! Just kidding. Our Lightning (Buddy's) generated a lot of interest. We handed out a ton of brochures. We even had the SportStar importer come by and tell us it was a beautiful plane! Maybe Jim L can share a couple pix of it. In my unbiased opinion, the two show Lightnings were the best of the breed. At least we flew ours in and out of the 1400' Ultralight field with two people on board. Not too shabby. Doug Koenigsberg **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850)


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    Time: 06:19:07 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: New videos up on the site
    Hey Wayne I just posted a couple more videos up on the site. Go to this link; http://www.jimslightning.com/html/multimedia.html Click on the Lightning & Esqual Videos link. They are under Lightning Videos Jim! www.jimslightning.com


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    Time: 06:59:32 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Picture from Sun n Fun
    Our Lightning (Buddy's) generated a lot of interest. We handed out a ton of brochures. We even had the SportStar importer come by and tell us it was a beautiful plane! Maybe Jim L can share a couple pix of it. I do have a couple of pics that I took. Here's one of the GL guys hard at work. Not really, we were all watching the Thunderbirds at the time.


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    Time: 07:20:12 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Buddy's aircraft
    Here's a couple of pictures of Buddy's airplane, (since some of you have asked). You can also see pics of this beauty at www.greenlandings.com, www.jimslightning.com or www.flylightning.net GL and Buddy did a great job on this one! I especially like the wheel pants. Kind of reminds me of a bull horn! The bottom line is that because of the great design of the kit, the Lightning owners are putting better and better aircraft in the air. As the build centers come up with new ideas for a nicer looking build, they in turn are feeding this information to the owners. I like the fact that most all of what Nick and company is coming up with can be retrofitted into existing aircraft. I've learned a ton from the good folks at Green Landings and am excited about a (very soon) completion of my own. No doubt this will be the cockpit with the most advanced and versatile EFIS/GPS/Autopilot/Coffee Maker yet to be installed in a Lightning. (grin) Jim! www.jimslightning.com


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    Time: 12:34:29 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Stauffer" <mark@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Trim product seen at Sun n Fun
    A few weeks back there was a discussion about runaway trim systems. It just so happens that a vendor came to our booth during Sun n Fun and dropped off some literature from a company called Safety-Trim. This system is supposed to work with Ray Allen products (the trim system that now comes in the Lightning). The Ray Allen products have a great reliability record but for those that are concerned you may want to take a look at this system. This is not an endorsement but rather just letting you know that it's out there on the market. We have no experience with this product or company so you should do your own research before buying and installing one. For further information you may visit their web site at: www.tcwtech.com. Mark Mark Stauffer Production Manager Arion Aircraft 2842 Hwy 231 North Shelbyville, TN 37160 (931) 680-1781


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    Time: 02:40:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Picture from Sun n Fun
    From: "Robert Lancaster" <rlanco@excite.com>
    Hi Nick, Mark, Mike and Pete. Congratulations to you guys and all the others at Shelbyville that contributed to produce that winner. It is truly a beautiful airplane. Keep up the great work. Bob Lancaster Esqual VM-1 (N312L) --- On Mon 04/14, Mark Stauffer mark.stauffer1@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Stauffer [mailto: mark.stauffer1@gmail.com] Subject: Lightning-List: Picture from Sun n Fun A picture of Nick accepting the award for Best Composite Homebuilt - Sun n<br>Fun 2008.<br>Attachment: 101.jpg (76.34KB)<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!


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    Time: 09:33:26 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Picture from Sun n Fun
    In a message dated 4/15/2008 7:09:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fredzuccarelli@gmail.com writes: Being a novice pilot with about 150 hours of flying only a cessna 172, my fear is the transition from a yoke to stick. Fred, Don't fret over the yoke verses stick. I have flown over 100 pilots in my modified Esqual LS. Their experience varied from a low of about 60 hours to retired airline pilots with over 20,000 hours. Most had not flown with at stick. All of them felt comfortable within a minute or two and had no problems making the airplane do what they wanted it to do. Actually the stick is a more natural way to control an airplane as it generally only takes one motion to make it do what you want it to - for example to make a climbing left turn with a yoke it takes a turn of the wheel to the left and a pull aft. The stick only takes a pull to the left rear - only one motion. Once you get used to it (and as I said, it will not take long) you will find it easier to be more precise when using a stick. For example, flying close formation with a yoke is a higher work load than flying formation with a stick. I also think it is easier to feel the need for trim changes when using a stick, but I have no real example as to why I think that - possibly less friction in most stick set ups. Get some transition time in a Diamond or some sporty aircraft with a stick and you will see what a "non event" the transition is. Blue Skies, Buz Rich **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850)


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    Time: 10:24:18 PM PST US
    Subject: New videos up on the site
    From: "Wayne Patterson" <Wayne@lpwa.net>
    All viewed and appreciated! ________________________________ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2008 9:16 PM Subject: Lightning-List: New videos up on the site Hey Wayne I just posted a couple more videos up on the site. Go to this link; http://www.jimslightning.com/html/multimedia.html <http://www.jimslightning.com/html/multimedia.html> Click on the Lightning & Esqual Videos link. They are under Lightning Videos Jim! www.jimslightning.com <http://www.jimslightning.com>




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