Lightning-List Digest Archive

Mon 04/21/08


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:57 AM - Re: Gear legs (James, Clive R)
     2. 07:16 AM - Re: Details, Details, Details (flylightning)
     3. 02:15 PM - Nick or Mark (Brian Whittingham)
     4. 03:00 PM - Re: Nick or Mark (flylightning)
     5. 06:03 PM - Re: Gear legs (Allan Maxwell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:57:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Gear legs
    From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
    I use some stuff called PBC, PolyButylCuprosil, or commonly known as Coppergrease, great for stemming corrosion and to aid stripping down anything after a period of time. PBC, if you can get it, is entirely synthetic so it doesn't dry out like Coppergrease does. CJ -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin J. Kennedy Sent: 20 April 2008 15:30 Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Gear legs I agree with your thinking Tex, although I also think the dissimilar metal corrosion would not be very active provided the area was kept dry. Due to the close fit, anything as thick as paint would not work. I am sure that WD40 or oil would help, but I wonder for how long? I might try a product called Waxoyl I used to use to prevent rust on classic cars. Just because I have a tin left over from years ago! When warm/hot, it is fluid, but it cools to a waxy substance. Colin K. OK Lightning # 52 under construction. http://www.mykitlog.com/cojaken -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tex Mantell Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:20 AM To: lightning List Subject: Lightning-List: Gear legs I have had my gear legs on and off and have a very nice fit. I was wondering at final assembly if some type of lube should be used? The different type of metals between the leg and the mounting hole in the spar box could create some corrosion. Any comments? TEX href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 07:16:29 AM PST US
    From: "flylightning" <info@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Details, Details, Details
    Well we will certainly have it judged at EAA and will be happy for what ever we get and if not the free hat and mug are great parting gifts!!! Nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kayberg@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Details, Details, Details Not to put too fine a point on it, but it is worth noting to the Light Sport folks............... the rule is 120 knots True Airspeed AT SEA LEVEL So the speed could very well be greater at 5-7000 feet, perhaps Nick was at a higher density altitude than he thought. The static system could also be off. <http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201d20638/02> It is quite possible that there is a small tach error that might need correction. Also possible that the speeds will slow down at gross weight. (1320#) So if you are building a Light Sport qualified, be sure to use your calibrated pencil and note the proper information in your pilots handbook, perhaps in the logbook as well. Also lobby for the new wing tips. They look great!!! And yes, Nick, you did mention stealing the award at Sun n Fun. If you are such a hot builder, we should be looking for Grand Champion at Osh Kosh?????? Doug In a message dated 4/17/2008 1:06:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, info@flylightning.net writes: Group, Yes we are back and we have got a good idea of performance but did not get a chance to let it stretch the old legs on the trip due to weather mostly. The trip down, the jabiru folks and the lightning flew in a group. Well mostly a group I was normally out in front a ways checking weather on the route. Most of the trip was at 8k-12k and I had it powered back for economy cruise and to stay somewhat with the group, Average TAS was 132nkts (this is not GS but TAS) @ 4.2 gph and a power setting of 2700-2780rpms. That was the trip down. The trip back was very rough and had to have the power back and airspeed under Va so no good data there, the last 45 minutes although was smooth enough to fly at about 2850rpm..that magic number for LSA and N324AL will run @ 3500ft 145 mph IAS and 138ktns TAS so a bit fast for LSA in this configuration but we did not build it for that.....Before departure on a few test flights at 4k I was seeing with the autopilot lock on and the plane flying it self 155mph IAS and 170mph TAS this at between 2950-3000 rpm... At first this is not any better than the old demo....but we have the same prop 62 FK 58...and at the same REVs it should go the same speed..and it does....the difference is a whole lot a throttle left to go! The old demo 323AL would turn that prop to 3100revs... @ 5k WOT....the new demo will turn the same prop @ 5k WOT to well above 3300 revs...there is the difference, the ability to run maybe 2" or better more pitch in the prop. Which in turn should give better speed. But heres the real dilemma, the prop will still get 170TAS which is good, but it also turns up more REVs at WOT for takeoff, the ground roll is shorter the climb rate is quicker, so I think this might be still the best choice...but if you don't care about runways lengths and you want a bit more speed I think a 62fk60 may be the answer. Other wise it is performing as expected, the new trim system is as it should be and works great....no more bungees. This aircraft came in @ 823lbs empty, speed kit , interior, dual EFIS, auto pilot, garmin Radio and TXP..... The 30 gallons of fuel is proving to be a nice addition. If you figure 132knts TAS @ 4.2 GPH economy cruise That's 6.5 hours with reserve, 858 nm no wind, and about 31.4 mpg....that make owning a Honda sound boring don't it!...Oh and did I mention we won best Composite homebuilt at Sun N Fun..... _____ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> .


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    Time: 02:15:53 PM PST US
    From: Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Nick or Mark
    Nick or Mark, Congrats on the award! You guys do good work and are conti nuing to evolve the project.Could you pass along to Pete that he will be re cieving a form about me in the mail at the businessaddress. I think it com es unmarked and has a 10 question scantron inside. It is my security clear ancepaperwork. I'm sure you know about these Mark.I had to put down the ti me that I was self-employed, but working through (not at) Arion. It's not an IRS audit or anything so don't freak out or throw it away. It'll just h ave questions like, do you know this person, is he crazy, does he know any of the Bin Laden family. If he could please fill that out and send it back as soon as he gets it I would appreciate it. Also, are you guys possibly going to be flying or working out back on Saturday May 3rd? I'd like to d ropby in the morning and get a few pics and see you guys for a few. Of cou rse a short flight in the new demo would be great too! ;-) Thanks, Brian W. _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM _WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008


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    Time: 03:00:14 PM PST US
    From: "flylightning" <info@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Nick or Mark
    I will be here finishing up some transition training with a customer so yep I will be around. Nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Whittingham Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:08 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Nick or Mark Nick or Mark, Congrats on the award! You guys do good work and are continuing to evolve the project. Could you pass along to Pete that he will be recieving a form about me in the mail at the business address. I think it comes unmarked and has a 10 question scantron inside. It is my security clearance paperwork. I'm sure you know about these Mark. I had to put down the time that I was self-employed, but working through (not at) Arion. It's not an IRS audit or anything so don't freak out or throw it away. It'll just have questions like, do you know this person, is he crazy, does he know any of the Bin Laden family. If he could please fill that out and send it back as soon as he gets it I would appreciate it. Also, are you guys possibly going to be flying or working out back on Saturday May 3rd? I'd like to drop by in the morning and get a few pics and see you guys for a few. Of course a short flight in the new demo would be great too! ;-) Thanks, Brian W. _____ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. Get started! <http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_W L_Refresh_messenger_video_042008>


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    Time: 06:03:40 PM PST US
    From: Allan Maxwell <allanmaxe@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Gear legs
    Hi Clive wanted to know if you started to fly the esqual yet let me know how its going. I have 175hrs now. Allan I use some stuff called PBC, PolyButylCuprosil, or commonly known as Coppergrease, great for stemming corrosion and to aid stripping down anything after a period of time. PBC, if you can get it, is entirely synthetic so it doesn't dry out like Coppergrease does. CJ -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin J. Kennedy Sent: 20 April 2008 15:30 Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Gear legs I agree with your thinking Tex, although I also think the dissimilar metal corrosion would not be very active provided the area was kept dry. Due to the close fit, anything as thick as paint would not work. I am sure that WD40 or oil would help, but I wonder for how long? I might try a product called Waxoyl I used to use to prevent rust on classic cars. Just because I have a tin left over from years ago! When warm/hot, it is fluid, but it cools to a waxy substance. Colin K. OK Lightning # 52 under construction. http://www.mykitlog.com/cojaken -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tex Mantell Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:20 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Gear legs I have had my gear legs on and off and have a very nice fit. I was wondering at final assembly if some type of lube should be used? The different type of metals between the leg and the mounting hole in the spar box could create some corrosion. Any comments? TEX href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.




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