---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/25/08: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:44 AM - rotate (Dave) 2. 07:26 PM - Re: rotate (N1BZRich@aol.com) 3. 11:51 PM - Re: rotate Esqual (James, Clive R) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:58 AM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: Lightning-List: rotate Buz Thanks for the hints, you were right, the elevator was not centered to travel meaning I had 2 inches more down than up travel, don't ask me how this one slipped by, good thing I was an ex A&P. Did the weight and balance and I weigh 11 lbs less than you deducting the chute. W/B all is well within limits I rotate at 45 now, Thought the group might like to see some photos of how I made big items fit in small places. My grandson likes to hunt and fish, as I do. The "box" you see is the chute container, BRS's first in Esqual. Dave McC ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:17 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@aol.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: rotate In a message dated 4/25/2008 2:47:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, corky@hbci.com writes: I rotate at 45 now, Corky, Just for comparison reasons, what do you see as a clean and 30 degree flap speed. My airplane stalls clean about 44 mph and about 34 mph with 30 degree flaps. On takeoff, using 10 degree flaps, I rotate about 35 to 38 and am flying off about 45. Based on the numbers you see for stalls, I am thinking you still may have an airspeed reading somewhat high. Anyway, glad to be of help. Blue Skies, Buz **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:10 PM PST US Subject: RE: Lightning-List: rotate Esqual From: "James, Clive R" Attached are the pictures I took of my elevator set up. I haven't got any manuals with me to check the numbers but the up elevator was possibly 25 degrees. The down 10? The stops being the travel on the bottom of the control column forward pivot and the seat bulkhead with clearance in the stabiliser. Certainly not that same up and down. Buz what is yours like? Though after recent reports on Esqual w+b and control issues something to explore in the test flying. Getting the nose down can be as critical as pulling it up under certain situation..... This is a classic with the Jabiru where there is little down elevator needed, where folk set the up and down equal they don't have enough up elevator travel to flare at low speeds. Dave, excellent use of space, parachute installation and a good collection of equipment for killing things! Regards, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: 25 April 2008 19:40 Subject: Lightning-List: rotate Buz Thanks for the hints, you were right, the elevator was not centered to travel meaning I had 2 inches more down than up travel, don't ask me how this one slipped by, good thing I was an ex A&P. Did the weight and balance and I weigh 11 lbs less than you deducting the chute. W/B all is well within limits I rotate at 45 now, Thought the group might like to see some photos of how I made big items fit in small places. My grandson likes to hunt and fish, as I do. The "box" you see is the chute container, BRS's first in Esqual. Dave McC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message lightning-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Lightning-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/lightning-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/lightning-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.