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1. 04:56 AM - Re: rotate Esqual (flylightning)
2. 07:59 AM - Re: rotate Esqual (Dave)
3. 08:29 AM - Re: rotate Esqual (James, Clive R)
4. 02:54 PM - Four New Email Lists At Matronics!! (Matt Dralle)
5. 04:33 PM - Re: Lightning-color choices (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
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Clive,
I would give up a bit of up ..say 2-3 degrees to get some more down.....with
the lightning we rig for 12-15 down and 22-25 up...
Hope this helps...
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Clive
R
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:47 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: rotate Esqual
Attached are the pictures I took of my elevator set up. I haven't got
any manuals with me to check the numbers but the up elevator was
possibly 25 degrees. The down 10? The stops being the travel on the
bottom of the control column forward pivot and the seat bulkhead with
clearance in the stabiliser.
Certainly not that same up and down. Buz what is yours like?
Though after recent reports on Esqual w+b and control issues something
to explore in the test flying. Getting the nose down can be as critical
as pulling it up under certain situation.....
This is a classic with the Jabiru where there is little down elevator
needed, where folk set the up and down equal they don't have enough up
elevator travel to flare at low speeds.
Dave, excellent use of space, parachute installation and a good
collection of equipment for killing things!
Regards, Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: 25 April 2008 19:40
Subject: Lightning-List: rotate
Buz
Thanks for the hints, you were right, the elevator was not centered to
travel meaning I had 2 inches more down than up travel, don't ask me how
this one slipped by, good thing I was an ex A&P.
Did the weight and balance and I weigh 11 lbs less than you deducting
the chute. W/B all is well within limits I rotate at 45 now, Thought the
group might like to see some photos of how I made big items fit in
small places. My grandson likes to hunt and fish, as I do. The "box" you
see is the chute container, BRS's first in Esqual.
Dave McC
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| Subject: | Re: rotate Esqual |
Clive
I have 21 degrees up and 17 degrees down on the elevator, I believe the
Esqual manual says 25 up, but don't take my word on this.
Buz, my stalls are within 3 to 4 mph of yours. At cruise, all I have done
is head into the wind, read gps, turn 180, read gps, split the difference,
and it equals indicated. But yes, the indicated could be off, till I find a
FA18 in Winona so we can compare I won't know--just kidding-
Dave Mcc
----- Original Message -----
From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:46 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: rotate Esqual
Attached are the pictures I took of my elevator set up. I haven't got
any manuals with me to check the numbers but the up elevator was
possibly 25 degrees. The down 10? The stops being the travel on the
bottom of the control column forward pivot and the seat bulkhead with
clearance in the stabiliser.
Certainly not that same up and down. Buz what is yours like?
Though after recent reports on Esqual w+b and control issues something
to explore in the test flying. Getting the nose down can be as critical
as pulling it up under certain situation.....
This is a classic with the Jabiru where there is little down elevator
needed, where folk set the up and down equal they don't have enough up
elevator travel to flare at low speeds.
Dave, excellent use of space, parachute installation and a good
collection of equipment for killing things!
Regards, Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: 25 April 2008 19:40
Subject: Lightning-List: rotate
Buz
Thanks for the hints, you were right, the elevator was not centered to
travel meaning I had 2 inches more down than up travel, don't ask me how
this one slipped by, good thing I was an ex A&P.
Did the weight and balance and I weigh 11 lbs less than you deducting
the chute. W/B all is well within limits I rotate at 45 now, Thought the
group might like to see some photos of how I made big items fit in
small places. My grandson likes to hunt and fish, as I do. The "box" you
see is the chute container, BRS's first in Esqual.
Dave McC
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Good info, Nick's recommendation is also to drop the 'up' back a bit and
I suspect then that Buz's will be away from the original 25 degrees.
Some tweaking needed me thinks. Many thanks, Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: 26 April 2008 15:56
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: rotate Esqual
Clive
I have 21 degrees up and 17 degrees down on the elevator, I believe the
Esqual manual says 25 up, but don't take my word on this.
Buz, my stalls are within 3 to 4 mph of yours. At cruise, all I have
done is head into the wind, read gps, turn 180, read gps, split the
difference, and it equals indicated. But yes, the indicated could be
off, till I find a
FA18 in Winona so we can compare I won't know--just kidding- Dave Mcc
----- Original Message -----
From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:46 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: rotate Esqual
Attached are the pictures I took of my elevator set up. I haven't got
any manuals with me to check the numbers but the up elevator was
possibly 25 degrees. The down 10? The stops being the travel on the
bottom of the control column forward pivot and the seat bulkhead with
clearance in the stabiliser.
Certainly not that same up and down. Buz what is yours like?
Though after recent reports on Esqual w+b and control issues something
to explore in the test flying. Getting the nose down can be as critical
as pulling it up under certain situation.....
This is a classic with the Jabiru where there is little down elevator
needed, where folk set the up and down equal they don't have enough up
elevator travel to flare at low speeds.
Dave, excellent use of space, parachute installation and a good
collection of equipment for killing things!
Regards, Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: 25 April 2008 19:40
Subject: Lightning-List: rotate
Buz
Thanks for the hints, you were right, the elevator was not centered to
travel meaning I had 2 inches more down than up travel, don't ask me how
this one slipped by, good thing I was an ex A&P.
Did the weight and balance and I weigh 11 lbs less than you deducting
the chute. W/B all is well within limits I rotate at 45 now, Thought the
group might like to see some photos of how I made big items fit in
small places. My grandson likes to hunt and fish, as I do. The "box" you
see is the chute container, BRS's first in Esqual.
Dave McC
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning-color choices |
Hey Mark: I made it home Ok. Had to stop and snooze for an hour, but
otherwise no problems.
The colors I would prefer for my Lightning are the following:
White: AWL Grip G8022
Blue: DUPONT 77257
Yellow: DUPONT 8550
Obviously, the paint does not have to be those kinds, but I would like
the colors to be close.
Thanks
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