---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/23/08: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:36 AM - Exhaust trimming? (James, Clive R) 2. 03:35 AM - Re: Exhaust trimming? (Daniel DW) 3. 04:03 AM - Re: Exhaust trimming? (Jim Langley) 4. 04:34 AM - Posted updates (Jim Langley) 5. 05:01 AM - Esqual 100% (luigit@freemail.it) 6. 07:08 PM - Re: need some chatter here (N1BZRich@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:31 AM PST US Subject: Lightning-List: Exhaust trimming? From: "James, Clive R" My Esqual, as of today, is now 100% legal to fly (and finished). Tomorrow an experienced test pilot will do the first few flights and then convert me over (I hope). Hopefully I should have some flying pics tomorrow. One question that Esqual and lightning folk can help me with. I have the single downpipe on the 3300, see attached, how much of it can I cut off without getting a stained underside on the fuselage?. Danny how is it over in Belgium? Did you get your engine mount from Pete yet? Jim, very impressive colour scheme, wasn't sure about the orange from the tail pictures but on the full aircraft it works really well. I need some stripes on my vanilla Esqual. Also building again so soon! My wife has said I have to have some time off before the next one, something about a new bathroom..... Regards to all, Clive UK Esqual #1 (#39) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:35:29 AM PST US From: Daniel DW Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Exhaust trimming? Hi Clive, wish you all the best for tomorrow. My plane is at the paintshop this week. Engine mount should be shipped this week (hopefully). I have the engine and all the rest is ready to be mounted again. I hope the cowling will still fit. Kind regardsDanny > Subject: Lightning-List: Exhaust trimming?> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:27: 34 +0100> From: clive.james@uk.bp.com> To: lightning-list@matronics.com> > My Esqual, as of today, is now 100% legal to fly (and finished). > Tomorrow an experienced test pilot will do the first few flights and> then convert me over (I hope).> Hopefully I should have some flying pics tomorrow.> > On e question that Esqual and lightning folk can help me with. I have the> sin gle downpipe on the 3300, see attached, how much of it can I cut off> witho ut getting a stained underside on the fuselage?.> > Danny how is it over in Belgium? Did you get your engine mount from Pete> yet?> > > Jim, very impr essive colour scheme, wasn't sure about the orange from> the tail pictures but on the full aircraft it works really well. I need> some stripes on my v anilla Esqual. > Also building again so soon! My wife has said I have to ha ve some time> off before the next one, something about a new bathroom.....> > Regards to all, Clive > UK Esqual #1 (#39) _________________________________________________________________ Even niet achter je PC? Neem je Messenger mee op je gsm! http://www.windowslivemobile.msn.com/nl-be ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:42 AM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Exhaust trimming? Lol! Yes, I will have to take care of some HoneyDo list items before I start again as well. Good luck today! -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Clive R Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:28 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Exhaust trimming? My Esqual, as of today, is now 100% legal to fly (and finished). Tomorrow an experienced test pilot will do the first few flights and then convert me over (I hope). Hopefully I should have some flying pics tomorrow. One question that Esqual and lightning folk can help me with. I have the single downpipe on the 3300, see attached, how much of it can I cut off without getting a stained underside on the fuselage?. Danny how is it over in Belgium? Did you get your engine mount from Pete yet? Jim, very impressive colour scheme, wasn't sure about the orange from the tail pictures but on the full aircraft it works really well. I need some stripes on my vanilla Esqual. Also building again so soon! My wife has said I have to have some time off before the next one, something about a new bathroom..... Regards to all, Clive UK Esqual #1 (#39) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:24 AM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: Lightning-List: Posted updates If you want to follow my progress, you can see it at www.jimslightning.com After my bird has passed its inspection and I am flying and not building, I plan on going back and expanding the site to be more of a Lightning general support site with build help and cool links. I have been collecting your best ideas over the past year, just waiting for this time. I should start updating in a couple of months. Jim! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:48 AM PST US From: luigit@freemail.it Subject: Lightning-List: Esqual 100% --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:26 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@aol.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: need some chatter here In a message dated 6/20/2008 9:14:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wb2ssj@earthlink.net writes: I guess everyone is still pondering the accident and there has been little to talk about. I have some questions and would like to see some talk going on as I am moving foward with my project. 1. Has anyone come up with a good tie down method for the lighting? 2. Which side did you all put your wing light and why? 3. How much drag do you think the wing light produces? 4. I hope to get the base of the air speed unit flush with the bottom of the wing. This should help reduce some drag. Every little bit helps. 5. Who all are going to Oshkosh? Tex, Pete, and all listers. Right on, it has been quite on the list. I have been very busy with other projects, but at the moment am back in SYI to try out the new wing tips on the prototype and probably do some more prop testing on the new Demo. Nick has put quite a bit of time on the new tips, but just wants me to see what I think. I certainly trust his judgement, but any invitation to fly a Lightning is a wonderful thing. Flight out here today was good with only some light showers near Knoxville. Made the entire flight at 6,500 and used a slightly different technique for the flight. Normally I set the fuel flow I want and accept the rpm and tas that gives me. In the past I have set 6 gph and that (at 8 to 10 thousand feet) usually gives me something like 170 mph tas and the rpm will be around 3050 to 3100. My engine cools well at those numbers so that kind of became my XC technique. Now with fuel being a little more costly I have started trying some new techniques. Today at 6,500 feet for the entire flight I just set 2950 rpm and the resultant indicated fuel flow was something like 5.7 gph. I have my fuel flow transducer set slightly on the conservative side, so I knew I was actually burning a little less than that. True airspeed for the flight varied from 152 mph for the first hour and then gradually went up to 158 by the end of the flight as I got lighter. After the flight the calibrated fuel flow based on start up at JGG to shut down at SYI was 5.5 gph. My ground speed (with a steady 20 knots on the nose for the entire flight) from start of TO roll to shut down was 138 mph. Factor in the 20 knots on the nose and you come up with the 158 mph that I was seeing while in flight. Now some comments on your other points: 1 - As always, Pete Disher has come up with a good idea for the tie down. However, I think one improvement would be to weld the nut onto the metal bracket and then just screw in the eye bolts when you need a tie down. That way no drag in flight. 2 - My airplane had a light on each wing. One is taxi and one is landing. The only difference is the angle that the actual lights are mounted on the wing. In the taxi position one light shines down the runway and the other shines closer to the area in front of the airplane. Of course on final with the landing attitude the closer light shines a little further down the runway. Works for me, but I don't seem to fly as much at night as I used to. I am finding out that sometimes "dark air has no lift". 3 - Probably very little - less than a mph. They will add some weight, but then everything that you add, adds weight. 4 - Good work. Send us photos for the newsletter when you can. 5 - I will be at Oshkosh, and like most years quite early for my work in vintage show plane registration and camping. In past years they wanted me there at least a week early, but my most recent request from them is 10 days early this year. I will likely try to arrive 18 July. We need to have at least one get together at the Lightning display area and also we all need to attend Nick's Lightning forum. I have that info written down, but not with me at the moment. The July newsletter will be out in about a week and will have that info. Blue Skies, Buz **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. 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