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1. 06:34 AM - Re: Lopresti Fury (Charles Dewey)
2. 07:18 AM - Re: Lopresti Fury (N1BZRich@aol.com)
3. 08:05 AM - Re: Lopresti Fury (Kayberg@aol.com)
4. 08:12 AM - Re: Lopresti Fury (N1BZRich@aol.com)
5. 08:33 AM - Re: Lopresti Fury (EAFerguson@aol.com)
6. 08:38 AM - Re: Lopresti Fury (Kayberg@aol.com)
7. 04:08 PM - Re: Lopresti Fury (N1BZRich@aol.com)
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Anyone out there hear about this plane the lopresti fury. They are promising 220mph
cruise out of 10gph.
--- On Tue, 7/1/08, James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com> wrote:
> From: James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Wallmart spray booth
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 6:34 AM
> R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
>
> That is a neat idea, the gazebo, as it is known in the UK,
> would be a
> great temporary booth. Even in a big space to stop the
> paint blowing
> about a barn. Need an airfed mask though I think, CJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Tex
> Mantell
> Sent: 29 June 2008 00:37
> To: lightning List
> Subject: Lightning-List: Wallmart spray booth
>
> For those looking for a spraybooth when the time comes go
> to wallmart or
> BJ's and get a car port that they sell. Enclosed you
> will see my spray
> booth and If you get it before you need it, its great for
> storing parts.
> It has a few draw backs, the bugs,spiders,and squriles love
> it too. Tex
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
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| Subject: | Re: Lopresti Fury |
Hi Charles,
In the Lopresti Fury you have come across a really interesting aircraft
in both a performance and historical perspective. I don't know the latest as
to the Lopresti Fury's possible production, but it seems to still be hanging
on based on its being at OSH and Sun-N-Fun most years. The history starts
in the 1940s with the design of the Globe Swift which was an all metal, two
place, retractable gear airplane that started off with a small Continental of
85 to 90 HP. I don't know if any were produced with that engine, but it soon
had 125 HP which gave it much better performance. The Globe Swift was
actually produced by a company called TEMCO which I think stands for Texas
Engineering and Manufacturing Company. Production started after WWll in say 1946
or
so and went on for several years. Over the years, based on the great
design, the airplane has been modified and cared for by various owners and many
restored versions of the original now have bigger engines, and sticks verses
yokes. They are highly prized by their owners.
Some years ago, Roy Lopresti, known for cleaning up several production
aircraft to give them better performance, worked his "lower drag" magic on the
design and even came up with an updated version called the Swift Fury with
the idea to start production. For what ever reason that became the Lopresti
Fury as it is known today. It is a beautiful airplane with apparently great
performance. I would love to have one of the new ones or a restored Swift
with sticks and larger engine.
And to keep this message kind of connected to the Lightning list, note
that the air intakes on the Lightning cowling use round Lopresti "style"
inlets that are sized to provide the correct amount of air for engine cooling
without over doing it which would add drag.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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| Subject: | Re: Lopresti Fury |
And now from Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition,
There seems to be something of a cult following of the Swift, which is
simply an old slow airplane with complex systems. Even with Lopresti's name,
it
was doomed. Steve Whitman, of air racing and Tailwind fame, used to beat the
early (125 hp)Swifts in takeoff and top speed with only an 85 hp engine! He
would takeoff, climb to 10 feet and land in the same distance as a Swift
would use to take off. Then he would beat them in the air. The payloads were
similar.
There is a reason that after at least 3 attempts at continous production,
the Swift is DOA. Even the LoPresti name hasnt been able to do much with it.
We have a 150 hp one on the field at Green Landings. It is usually apart
for something, engine problems, gear problems, fuel leaks, etc. It rolls like
a pig compared to the Lightning.
Yes, a turbo 210 HP Swift might get up to 210 MPH at 10 gph........at
25,000 feet! (you bring the O2)
I suspect the real world cruise is more like 180 at 9.5 below 10,000 feet.
And the cost for the latest versions is very salty for what you get. You
could probably get a turbo Mooney for less money with the same fuel
burn.....and have two more seats!!
Dont forget to put the gear down!!!
Just my thoughts.
Doug Koenigsberg
In a message dated 7/2/2008 10:18:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
N1BZRich@aol.com writes:
Hi Charles,
In the Lopresti Fury you have come across a really interesting aircraft
in both a performance and historical perspective. I don't know the latest as
to the Lopresti Fury's possible production, but it seems to still be hanging
on based on its being at OSH and Sun-N-Fun most years. The history starts
in the 1940s with the design of the Globe Swift which was an all metal, two
place, retractable gear airplane that started off with a small Continental of
85 to 90 HP. I don't know if any were produced with that engine, but it soon
had 125 HP which gave it much better performance. The Globe Swift was
actually produced by a company called TEMCO which I think stands for Texas
Engineering and Manufacturing Company. Production started after WWll in say 1946
or
so and went on for several years. Over the years, based on the great
design, the airplane has been modified and cared for by various owners and many
restored versions of the original now have bigger engines, and sticks verses
yokes. They are highly prized by their owners.
Some years ago, Roy Lopresti, known for cleaning up several production
aircraft to give them better performance, worked his "lower drag" magic on the
design and even came up with an updated version called the Swift Fury with
the idea to start production. For what ever reason that became the Lopresti
Fury as it is known today. It is a beautiful airplane with apparently great
performance. I would love to have one of the new ones or a restored Swift
with sticks and larger engine.
And to keep this message kind of connected to the Lightning list, note
that the air intakes on the Lightning cowling use round Lopresti "style"
inlets that are sized to provide the correct amount of air for engine cooling
without over doing it which would add drag.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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| Subject: | Re: Lopresti Fury |
In a message dated 7/2/2008 11:06:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Kayberg@aol.com writes:
And now from Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition,
Damn, don't you just hate it when someone has actual numbers and facts. ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Lopresti Fury |
In a message dated 7/2/2008 10:18:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
N1BZRich@aol.com writes:
> In the Lopresti Fury you have come across a really interesting aircraft
> in both a performance and historical perspective. I don't know the latest as
> to the Lopresti Fury's possible production, but it seems to still be hanging
> on based on its being at OSH and Sun-N-Fun most years.
I understand from my new friends at the FSDO that someone is putting an IO
540 in a Swift. The aircraft will be Experimental Catagory. They are having to
replace the entire tail section to provide the necessary area. Maybe this is
the LoPresti Swift?
Earl
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| Subject: | Re: Lopresti Fury |
In a message dated 7/2/2008 11:13:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
N1BZRich@aol.com writes:
And now from Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition,
Damn, don't you just hate it when someone has actual numbers and facts. ;-)
Buz
Actually, I was a bit pissy on my previous post.
Every airplane has its down side, but by definition, someone is in love with
it. At Osh Kosh you will see the dumbest of designs, ugly, slow or pitiful;
yet someone will be proud of it. One of the reasons to not share what you
think of someone else's plane. We pilots can be a sensitive lot.
But I also tire of hearing all the hype of a particular airplane ....knowing
there is much more to the story. Since I have never flown a Swift, I
really dont know what I am talking about in terms of actual performance. There
is
a reason why people love them. But I dont think they are in the class of
the modern composite in terms of speed, which is what started this thread.
While the Lightning may not have the top speed of a 200 hp Swift, it will
outrun most of them while burning less fuel. And you dont have to fiddle with
the prop pitch, leaning the carb, and remember to put the gear up or
down....not to mention the wildly reduced maintenance.
doug
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| Subject: | Re: Lopresti Fury |
In a message dated 7/2/2008 11:38:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Kayberg@aol.com writes:
Actually, I was a bit pissy on my previous post.
Hey Doug,
Don't be so hard on yourself. "Sharing opinions" is one of the benefits
of this (and all) list. Besides, "differences of opinions" is what makes
horse races - and betting on ball games, cock fights, and interesting poker
games, etc. So keep letting us know what you think. I have seen some pearls
of
wisdom in your thoughts and writings.
Buz
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