Lightning-List Digest Archive

Wed 07/23/08


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:01 AM - Prop hub (jeynon)
     2. 07:11 AM - Re: Prop hub (Mefford, Walt)
     3. 07:19 AM - Re: Prop hub (ryan@greenlandings.com)
     4. 07:22 AM - Re: Prop hub (Jim Langley)
     5. 07:41 AM - Re: Prop hub (Pete)
     6. 07:42 AM - Re: Prop hub (flylightning)
     7. 07:54 AM - Re: Prop hub (Jim Langley)
     8. 08:09 AM - Re: Prop hub (ryan@greenlandings.com)
     9. 08:24 AM - Re: Prop hub (jeynon)
    10. 08:33 AM - Re: Prop hub (Jim Langley)
    11. 08:57 AM - Re: Prop hub (ryan@greenlandings.com)
    12. 11:43 AM - Re: Prop hub (GARY PENNINGTON)
    13. 11:55 AM - Re: Prop hub (GARY PENNINGTON)
    14. 07:40 PM - Re: Prop hub (selwyn)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:01:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Prop hub
    From: "jeynon" <jeynon2@verizon.net>
    Can anyone tell me what is the proper torque to use for the bolts, and what type of thread compound should be used when installing the prop hub extension? I vaguely remember seeing this information somewhere, but can't seem to find it. Thanks. John Eynon Lightning kit #53 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523


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    Time: 07:11:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Prop hub
    From: "Mefford, Walt" <walt.mefford@garmin.com>
    This might help some. http://www.sensenichprop.com/sen_html/comp-ac-cf-rev-1.pdf Walt M. N881WP #55 -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeynon Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:59 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Prop hub Can anyone tell me what is the proper torque to use for the bolts, and what type of thread compound should be used when installing the prop hub extension? I vaguely remember seeing this information somewhere, but can't seem to find it. Thanks. John Eynon Lightning kit #53 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523 ------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Thank you for your cooperation


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    Time: 07:19:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    From: ryan@greenlandings.com
    I believe nick will respond also but the torque should be 30 foot pounds. You should do this in steps to make sure the extension is seated evenly. The loctite that should be used is 206 but ,nick should verify this Ryan Gross Green Landings ------Original Message------ From: jeynon Sender: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Lightning-List: Prop hub Sent: Jul 23, 2008 9:59 AM Can anyone tell me what is the proper torque to use for the bolts, and what type of thread compound should be used when installing the prop hub extension? I vaguely remember seeing this information somewhere, but can't seem to find it. Thanks. John Eynon Lightning kit #53 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523


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    Time: 07:22:37 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    John: Check out section 9.1 of the jabiru engine manual. It says in part A6 "A6 Mount Propeller Mount Flange to crankshaft Torque to 30ft.lbs/ Lockwire". Jim! On 7/23/08, Mefford, Walt <walt.mefford@garmin.com> wrote: > > <walt.mefford@Garmin.com> > > This might help some. > http://www.sensenichprop.com/sen_html/comp-ac-cf-rev-1.pdf > > Walt M. > N881WP > #55 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeynon > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:59 AM > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > Subject: Lightning-List: Prop hub > > > Can anyone tell me what is the proper torque to use for the bolts, and > what type of thread compound should be used when installing the prop hub > extension? I vaguely remember seeing this information somewhere, but > can't seem to find it. > > Thanks. > > John Eynon > Lightning kit #53 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523 > > > ------------------------- > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the > sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, > please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this > e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in > error, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > Thank you for your cooperation > >


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    Time: 07:41:01 AM PST US
    From: "Pete" <pete@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Prop hub
    See attached instructions from Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC Pete Krotje -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeynon Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Prop hub Can anyone tell me what is the proper torque to use for the bolts, and what type of thread compound should be used when installing the prop hub extension? I vaguely remember seeing this information somewhere, but can't seem to find it. Thanks. John Eynon Lightning kit #53 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523


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    Time: 07:42:26 AM PST US
    From: "flylightning" <info@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Prop hub
    Prop hub should be installed to 30 ft lbs and use locate 620 retaining compound it is green ...do not use other permatexs or similar brands loctite 620 is required. Nick Otterback Arion Aircraft, LLC -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ryan@greenlandings.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Prop hub I believe nick will respond also but the torque should be 30 foot pounds. You should do this in steps to make sure the extension is seated evenly. The loctite that should be used is 206 but ,nick should verify this Ryan Gross Green Landings ------Original Message------ From: jeynon Sender: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Lightning-List: Prop hub Sent: Jul 23, 2008 9:59 AM Can anyone tell me what is the proper torque to use for the bolts, and what type of thread compound should be used when installing the prop hub extension? I vaguely remember seeing this information somewhere, but can't seem to find it. Thanks. John Eynon Lightning kit #53 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523


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    Time: 07:54:24 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    Thanks Pete! On 7/23/08, flylightning <info@flylightning.net> wrote: > > info@flylightning.net> > > Prop hub should be installed to 30 ft lbs and use locate 620 retaining > compound it is green ...do not use other permatexs or similar brands > loctite > 620 is required. > > Nick Otterback > Arion Aircraft, LLC > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > ryan@greenlandings.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:18 AM > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Prop hub > > > I believe nick will respond also but the torque should be 30 foot pounds. > You should do this in steps to make sure the extension is seated evenly. > The > loctite that should be used is 206 but ,nick should verify this > > Ryan Gross > Green Landings > ------Original Message------ > From: jeynon > Sender: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > ReplyTo: lightning-list@matronics.com > Subject: Lightning-List: Prop hub > Sent: Jul 23, 2008 9:59 AM > > > Can anyone tell me what is the proper torque to use for the bolts, and what > type of thread compound should be used when installing the prop hub > extension? I vaguely remember seeing this information somewhere, but can't > seem to find it. > > Thanks. > > John Eynon > Lightning kit #53 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523 > >


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    Time: 08:09:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    From: ryan@greenlandings.com
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    Time: 08:24:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    From: "jeynon" <jeynon2@verizon.net>
    Thanks to all for the lightning quick responses. The attachment Pete sent is better than I was hoping for. John Eynon Lightning kit #53 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194542#194542


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    Time: 08:33:46 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    Ryan: You're getting pretty good typing on that Blackberry! On 7/23/08, ryan@greenlandings.com <ryan@greenlandings.com> wrote: > > Thanks ,nick and pete for straightening out my numbers > >


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    Time: 08:57:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    From: ryan@greenlandings.com
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    Time: 11:43:57 AM PST US
    From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    Hello Nick I know you have been busy, but I was wondering if you have have flown the new wing tips enough to determine whether they are slower at fast cruise? Thanks for your time. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: flylightning<mailto:info@flylightning.net> To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:39 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Prop hub <info@flylightning.net<mailto:info@flylightning.net>> Prop hub should be installed to 30 ft lbs and use locate 620 retaining compound it is green ...do not use other permatexs or similar brands loctite 620 is required. Nick Otterback Arion Aircraft, LLC -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-lightning-list-ser ver@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ryan@greenlandings.com<mailto:ryan@greenlandings.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:18 AM To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Prop hub ryan@greenlandings.com<mailto:ryan@greenlandings.com> I believe nick will respond also but the torque should be 30 foot pounds. You should do this in steps to make sure the extension is seated evenly. The loctite that should be used is 206 but ,nick should verify this Ryan Gross Green Landings ------Original Message------ From: jeynon Sender: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-lightning-list-ser ver@matronics.com> To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com> ReplyTo: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com> Subject: Lightning-List: Prop hub Sent: Jul 23, 2008 9:59 AM <jeynon2@verizon.net<mailto:jeynon2@verizon.net>> Can anyone tell me what is the proper torque to use for the bolts, and what type of thread compound should be used when installing the prop hub extension? I vaguely remember seeing this information somewhere, but can't seem to find it. Thanks. John Eynon Lightning kit #53 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523<http://forums matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List<http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?Lightning-List> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on>


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    Time: 11:55:00 AM PST US
    From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    Hello Pete I just printed the attachment you sent on the propeller flange. Very good info. Would it be a good idea to replace the cap screws rather than reuse? Thanks Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete<mailto:pete@flylightning.net> To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:38 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Prop hub See attached instructions from Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC Pete Krotje -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-lightning-list-ser ver@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeynon Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:59 AM To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com> Subject: Lightning-List: Prop hub <jeynon2@verizon.net<mailto:jeynon2@verizon.net>> Can anyone tell me what is the proper torque to use for the bolts, and what type of thread compound should be used when installing the prop hub extension? I vaguely remember seeing this information somewhere, but can't seem to find it. Thanks. John Eynon Lightning kit #53 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523<http://forums matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194523#194523>


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    Time: 07:40:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop hub
    From: "selwyn" <selwyn@ellisworks.com.au>
    It is important to remember that Locktite 620 is serious stuff and if you apply it to all the cap screws at the start of the process you need to move quickly or else you end up torqueing the last few studs up against the locktite rather than tightening the fitting down. Not a good result! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194651#194651




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