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1. 07:12 AM - Re: Must be a thunderstorm, Lightning everywhere! (Rick Bowen)
2. 08:43 AM - Re: FW: kitplanes (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
3. 08:43 AM - Re: August issue of the Lightning Newsletter (N1BZRich@aol.com)
4. 08:45 AM - Re: Esqual-Lightning real cruise for best MPG (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
5. 11:35 AM - Re: Any difference in cooling requirements between the hydraulic and pre-hydraulic engines? (James, Clive R)
6. 12:25 PM - Re: Esqual-Lightning real cruise for best MPG (James, Clive R)
7. 03:46 PM - Re: Esqual-Lightning real cruise for best MPG (Brian Whittingham)
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Subject: | Must be a thunderstorm, Lightning everywhere! |
Congrats to you Selwyn!
Man=2C you guys "down under" are really gonna' be cranking out those Lightn
ings soon....COOL!
Rick
N727RB
Do not archive> Subject: Lightning-List: Must be a thunderstorm=2C Lightnin
g everywhere!> From: selwyn@ellisworks.com.au> Date: Mon=2C 11 Aug 2008 19:
39:38 -0700> To: lightning-list@matronics.com> > --> Lightning-List message
posted by: "selwyn" <selwyn@ellisworks.com.au>> > Kit 66 has arrived in Ho
rsham in the State of Victoria in south eastern Australia. I have had fun u
npacking boxes and have started sanding and cutting holes. So far interior
rough sanded=2C opera windows cut out and spar cutouts made.> > For those i
nterested I am running a blog here http://www.recreationalflying.com.au/for
um/blog.php?u=1094> > It will be a bit of a diary=2C some pictures and so
me comments about how the build goes. Everyone is welcome to browse and the
re may even be an idea or two to get your creative juices flowing but remem
ber the usual caveat. This is what I'm doing=2C there is no recommendation
that anyone else should do the same=2C I have no special qualifications in
design or construction and this is my first build. > > The other side of th
e coin is that I find the process of researching=2C discussing and planning
to be great fun. Make sure you enjoy that part of your own build too=2C it
s a good part of the journey.> > Cheers=2C Selwyn> > > > > Read this topic
online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198065#198065
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In a message dated 8/9/2008 11:19:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
clive.james@uk.bp.com writes:
One thing I don't think we'll agree on is which Lightning is best
(whatever 'best' is), The Arion Lightning maybe a fine aircraft and no
doubt will continue to get better but the original Lightning is a
LEGEND.
Hey Clive,
When you mentioned the original Lightning, did you forget the P-38? And
of course now we have the latest Lightning, the F-35, Lightning II. All are
great airplanes, both past and present. Alas, I wish I had been able to fly
all of them, not just the Arion model.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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Subject: | Re: August issue of the Lightning Newsletter |
Thanks, Bear,
I will see you at the Lightning Fly-In in September.
Buz
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Subject: | Re: Esqual-Lightning real cruise for best MPG |
In a message dated 8/10/2008 8:08:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
clive.james@uk.bp.com writes:
Has anyone tried testing the speed/fuel flow for optimum MPG? If so what RPM
is turning in good figures with a reasonable cruise?
Hi Clive,
During my initial 40 hour FAA Phase One testing I did some "Range verses
MPH" charts for N31BZ that would basically be the "optimum MPG" info that
you are looking for. Actually, everyone should plot this data for their
aircraft, but I know how busy we all can get. Heck, I have changed props several
times since I ran those test, so my data is "old" for my airplane as it is
configured today.
At the time I ran these test I was using a fixed pitch Sensenich -
W64ZK54, and I only plotted data for 5,000 feet and 10,000 feet. I "assumed"
a
usable fuel of 25 gallons which would have given a fuel reserve of 3.8 gallons
for 31BZ. (Of course, the OAT air temperature when you are refueling will
vary the amount of fuel you can actually get in the tanks.) After I plotted
the raw data for the various speeds I then had the computer "smooth" out the
data curve (polynomial?) which resulted in a smooth data curve. Having said
all that, with the prop I was running at that time it looks like 120 mph (TAS)
would give the best MPG for 31BZ. In other words, 31BZ would have a range
of about 1000 miles at 10,000' when flying at 120 mph (TAS). MPG for 31BZ at
those numbers is close to 40 MPG, but who the heck wants to go that slow.
Blue Skies,\
Buz
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Subject: | Any difference in cooling requirements between the |
hydraulic and pre-hydraulic engines?
Thanks for the oil cooling pictures. I can see it needs a fair amount of
cooler.
I've sent through some info on my CHT cooling direct.
Thanks everyone for the other cooling tips and info, it will be another
two weeks before I get to fit and pipe up my new cooler but I've got
lots of ideas about what to do next.
Regards, Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Allan
Maxwell
Sent: 11 August 2008 21:59
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Any difference in cooling requirements
between the hydraulic and pre-hydraulic engines?
Hi clive this is Allan maxwell I have 2 oil coolers I will send you a
picture of my set up soon. I was likeing to know about your chts ?
--- On Mon, 8/11/08, James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com> wrote:
From: James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
Subject: Lightning-List: Any difference in cooling requirements
between the hydraulic and pre-hydraulic engines?
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 2:56 PM
<clive.james@uk.bp.com>
I have a hydraulic tappet 3300 Jabiru engine. I've been chasing
an
overheating problem whilst having a cooler that was recommended
to do
the job. I've proven to myself that the cooler is too small and
I now
have the cooler that is standard fit for the J400,430 etc. I've
not yet
got it piped up and tried it but on the basis that this cooler
in the UK
is usually partially blanked off I'm assuming my overheating
problem
will go away.
One thing I did wonder about, has anyone come across a
difference in
cooling requirements between the hydraulic and pre-hydraulic
engines?
Thanks, Regards, Clive
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Subject: | Esqual-Lightning real cruise for best MPG |
Slow is good at times, I imagine even 145 knots is a little slow for an
Ex Jet Jockey!
Thanks folks for feedback on mpg. 120 mph must be a nice steady cruise
and 40 mpg sound good!
Hopefully I'll get some numbers in a few weeks then I can set to
improving them with some drag reduction.
Regards Clive (halfway between Scotland and Norway for another 2 weeks
yet!)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
N1BZRich@aol.com
Sent: 12 August 2008 16:45
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Esqual-Lightning real cruise for best MPG
In a message dated 8/10/2008 8:08:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
clive.james@uk.bp.com writes:
Has anyone tried testing the speed/fuel flow for optimum MPG? If
so what RPM is turning in good figures with a reasonable cruise?
Hi Clive,
During my initial 40 hour FAA Phase One testing I did some "Range
verses MPH" charts for N31BZ that would basically be the "optimum MPG"
info that you are looking for. Actually, everyone should plot this data
for their aircraft, but I know how busy we all can get. Heck, I have
changed props several times since I ran those test, so my data is "old"
for my airplane as it is configured today.
At the time I ran these test I was using a fixed pitch Sensenich -
W64ZK54, and I only plotted data for 5,000 feet and 10,000 feet. I
"assumed" a usable fuel of 25 gallons which would have given a fuel
reserve of 3.8 gallons for 31BZ. (Of course, the OAT air temperature
when you are refueling will vary the amount of fuel you can actually get
in the tanks.) After I plotted the raw data for the various speeds I
then had the computer "smooth" out the data curve (polynomial?) which
resulted in a smooth data curve. Having said all that, with the prop I
was running at that time it looks like 120 mph (TAS) would give the best
MPG for 31BZ. In other words, 31BZ would have a range of about 1000
miles at 10,000' when flying at 120 mph (TAS). MPG for 31BZ at those
numbers is close to 40 MPG, but who the heck wants to go that slow.
Blue Skies,\
Buz
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Subject: | Esqual-Lightning real cruise for best MPG |
Clive=2C
You're probably right. I think the landing speed on an F-4 is about 145
knots or so. Brian W.> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Esqual-Lightning real
cruise for best MPG> Date: Tue=2C 12 Aug 2008 20:24:55 +0100> From: clive.
james@uk.bp.com> To: lightning-list@matronics.com> > --> Lightning-List mes
sage posted by: "James=2C Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>> > Slow is good
at times=2C I imagine even 145 knots is a little slow for an> Ex Jet Jockey
!> > Thanks folks for feedback on mpg. 120 mph must be a nice steady cruise
> and 40 mpg sound good! > > Hopefully I'll get some numbers in a few weeks
then I can set to> improving them with some drag reduction.> > Regards Cli
ve (halfway between Scotland and Norway for another 2 weeks> yet!)> > > ---
--Original Message-----> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com> [
mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of> N1BZRich@ao
l.com> Sent: 12 August 2008 16:45> To: lightning-list@matronics.com> Subjec
t: Re: Lightning-List: Esqual-Lightning real cruise for best MPG> > In a me
ssage dated 8/10/2008 8:08:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C> clive.james@uk
.bp.com writes:> > Has anyone tried testing the speed/fuel flow for optimum
MPG? If> so what RPM is turning in good figures with a reasonable cruise?>
> Hi Clive=2C> During my initial 40 hour FAA Phase One testing I did some
"Range> verses MPH" charts for N31BZ that would basically be the "optimum M
PG"> info that you are looking for. Actually=2C everyone should plot this d
ata> for their aircraft=2C but I know how busy we all can get. Heck=2C I ha
ve> changed props several times since I ran those test=2C so my data is "ol
d"> for my airplane as it is configured today. > At the time I ran these te
st I was using a fixed pitch Sensenich -> W64ZK54=2C and I only plotted dat
a for 5=2C000 feet and 10=2C000 feet. I> "assumed" a usable fuel of 25 gall
ons which would have given a fuel> reserve of 3.8 gallons for 31BZ. (Of cou
rse=2C the OAT air temperature> when you are refueling will vary the amount
of fuel you can actually get> in the tanks.) After I plotted the raw data
for the various speeds I> then had the computer "smooth" out the data curve
(polynomial?) which> resulted in a smooth data curve. Having said all that
=2C with the prop I> was running at that time it looks like 120 mph (TAS) w
ould give the best> MPG for 31BZ. In other words=2C 31BZ would have a range
of about 1000> miles at 10=2C000' when flying at 120 mph (TAS). MPG for 31
BZ at those> numbers is close to 40 MPG=2C but who the heck wants to go tha
t slow. > Blue Skies=2C\> Buz> > > > ________________________________> > Lo
oking for a car that's sporty=2C fun and fits in your budget? Read> reviews
on AOL Autos> <http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid
==================> > >
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