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1. 01:36 AM - Oil Cooler Adapter plate (James, Clive R)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: Canopy Skins (GARY PENNINGTON)
3. 06:01 AM - Re: Canopy Skins (flylightning)
4. 08:40 AM - Re: Canopy Skins (jeynon)
5. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: Canopy Skins (sttwig@wabroadband.com)
6. 01:07 PM - Another bird in the air. (flylightning)
7. 02:56 PM - Just need to sit in one near Dallas (Bill Strahan)
8. 04:28 PM - N13LN Flies (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
9. 05:48 PM - Re: N13LN Flies (n5pb@aol.com)
10. 05:51 PM - Re: N13LN Flies (Jim Langley)
11. 05:53 PM - Re: N13LN Flies (Wayne Lenox)
12. 07:16 PM - Re: N13LN Flies ()
13. 07:23 PM - Re: Just need to sit in one near Dallas (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
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Subject: | Oil Cooler Adapter plate |
As some of you may know I've been chasing an oil temperature problem
with my 3300. I know a few have been down this road in the past.
Attached is a number of views of the old and the new Doughnut which
shows the differences.
Regards, Clive
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Subject: | Re: Canopy Skins |
Good morning Bill and to all Lightning builders
I bonded my canopy bubble on yesterday afternoon. Like everyone else,
I've been wondering how to properly trim the skins. I need to think
about it for a while, but I think your proposal might work well. Too
late for me, but others may benefit.
Happy days to all.
Gary Pennington
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From: Steven Sundquist<mailto:sttwig@wabroadband.com>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Canopy Skins
Bummer, perfect timing. I glued my canopy to the frame Monday
evening. I have been thinking about how to mark the upper edge of the
skin for trimming but haven't come up with a good idea. I drew a
reference line on the canopy an inch and a half above the upper edge of
the frame. I plan to measure back down from the line an inch and 3/8th
when the skin is temporarily clamped in place to establish the upper
trim line on the skin. Your method would have been a whole lot easier.
Steve Sundquist
Kit #48
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:51 PM
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Subject: Lightning-List: Canopy Skins
Hi All,
I have been struggling with getting the canopy skins trimmed where the
acrylic is glued to the canopy frame. What I should have done and now
recommend to you is, after the canopy frame is trimmed and mounted
(hinged and gas struts installed) but, BEFORE you glue the canopy to the
frame, clamp each canopy skin to the canopy frame and trace its outline
both top and bottom of the frame on each canopy skin. This will give
you a good reference point for trimming the skin at the top of the
canopy flange. The bottom needs to be trimmed after the skin is glued
on to achieve that close tolerance fit we all want.
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Steve,
Your meathod is about the same as we do here, this allows for the thickness
of the acrylic.
nick
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Sundquist
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:56 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Canopy Skins
Bummer, perfect timing. I glued my canopy to the frame Monday evening. I
have been thinking about how to mark the upper edge of the skin for trimming
but haven't come up with a good idea. I drew a reference line on the canopy
an inch and a half above the upper edge of the frame. I plan to measure
back down from the line an inch and 3/8th when the skin is temporarily
clamped in place to establish the upper trim line on the skin. Your method
would have been a whole lot easier.
Steve Sundquist
Kit #48
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Canopy Skins
Hi All,
I have been struggling with getting the canopy skins trimmed where the
acrylic is glued to the canopy frame. What I should have done and now
recommend to you is, after the canopy frame is trimmed and mounted (hinged
and gas struts installed) but, BEFORE you glue the canopy to the frame,
clamp each canopy skin to the canopy frame and trace its outline both top
and bottom of the frame on each canopy skin. This will give you a good
reference point for trimming the skin at the top of the canopy flange. The
bottom needs to be trimmed after the skin is glued on to achieve that close
tolerance fit we all want.
Bill Applegate, kit #49, Tucson, AZ.
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Subject: | Re: Canopy Skins |
What I did was after bonding the canopy to the inner canopy frame, I ran a piece
of narrow painters tape (easy to remove and leaves no residue) around the outside
of the canopy, matching the lower edge of the tape to the upper edge of
the inner frame, as seen through the canopy. Then after rough trimming the outer
skin I temporarily attached it to the canopy and got it fitting smoothly.
Then I applied a second piece of tape matching the upper edges of new tape with
the old, and marked the lower edge onto the skin.
This is effectively the same as marking the offset line and measuring down, but
I found it easier and more reliable.
Hey, I'm finally able to give someone else advise! I must be making progress.
John Eynon
Lightning Kit #53
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Subject: | Re: Canopy Skins |
John,
I like your suggestion. It offers some preciseness that mine method does
not. In my world, preciseness is important, way more important than it
needs to be.
Thank you for your suggestion.
Steve Sundquist
Kit #48
>
> What I did was after bonding the canopy to the inner canopy frame, I ran a
> piece of narrow painters tape (easy to remove and leaves no residue)
> around the outside of the canopy, matching the lower edge of the tape to
> the upper edge of the inner frame, as seen through the canopy. Then after
> rough trimming the outer skin I temporarily attached it to the canopy and
> got it fitting smoothly. Then I applied a second piece of tape matching
> the upper edges of new tape with the old, and marked the lower edge onto
> the skin.
>
> This is effectively the same as marking the offset line and measuring
> down, but I found it easier and more reliable.
>
> Hey, I'm finally able to give someone else advise! I must be making
> progress.
>
> John Eynon
> Lightning Kit #53
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199639#199639
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Subject: | Another bird in the air. |
Lynn Nelsen's Lightning has flown for the first time this morning. About a
half hour flight went well with no problems and a few typical tweeks to
make. This is the second customer aircraft fitted with the optional wing tip
extensions and performance is outstanding. Look for more info soon, and a
flight report as soon as Lynn takes over flight testing.
Nick
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Subject: | Just need to sit in one near Dallas |
I'm new to the list, but have been following the Lightning for almost a year now.
My wife and I have agreed on my building a Lightning, and she's ready for
me to just go ahead and do it. I really need two things before I write that first
check:
1) I need to get out to Shelbyville and see the operation and get a demo ride.
2) I need to get my wife to just sit in the plane and make sure she'd be okay
on long trips.
I'll take care of #1 as soon as my Grumman is out of the shop from its annual and
I can fly out to Shelbyville. My wife insists #2 isn't required, but I know
better. I don't expect an issue, since she's a slender little yoga teacher,
but we've put over 500 hours on the Grumman and I need to make sure that she's
every bit as willing in the smaller Lightning.
So, is there anyone within a few hundred miles of Dallas that would be willing
to let my wife sit down in the right seat and try it on for size? If so, that
would save me the scheduling issue of getting us both out to Shelbyville, and
I can move a little sooner on joining the club.
In the meantime, can anyone compare it to the Grumman AA5 series as far as comfort,
shoulder room, and noise levels?
Kind regards,
Bill Strahan
pending me getting a demo ride...and her sitting in the plane and ma
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Excellent!!! Congratulations...am I next am=C2-I next am=C2-I next????
=C2- :-)
Paul
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From: IFLYSMODEL@aol.com
Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 7:26 pm
Subject: Lightning-List: N13LN Flies
Hey Lightning list, N13LN finally got airborne. It looks like everything is
in the ballpark for the light sport category=C2-I built her for.
>>Lynn,
=C2-
Back in the hanger after first flight this morning. A 20 minute flight went
well with no problems. Will full fuel and me she has a slight left roll , ho
wever after landing noticed that the right flap is down a =C2=BC=9D, w
e will bring it up and that should straighten that out. I am going to change
the jets as we always do so did not run real fast today but @ 2650rpm and 3
500 feet I was getting 115knts TAS.=C2- May fly this afternoon some more.
=C2-
Nick
=C2-
Flew again this afternoon. Raised the flap even with the root and no roll, h
ands off now. Changed the Jets and the EGTs seem about right now
=C2-
Nick
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Great news Lynn..
Let=99s celebrate!!
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: N13LN Flies
Hey Lightning list, N13LN finally got airborne. It looks like everything
is in the ballpark for the light sport categoryI built her for.
>>Lynn,
Back in the hanger after first flight this morning. A 20 minute flight
went well with no problems. Will full fuel and me she has a slight left
roll , however after landing noticed that the right flap is down a
=C2=BC=9D, we will bring it up and that should straighten that
out. I am going to change the jets as we always do so did not run real
fast today but @ 2650rpm and 3500 feet I was getting 115knts TAS. May
fly this afternoon some more.
Nick
Flew again this afternoon. Raised the flap even with the root and no
roll, hands off now. Changed the Jets and the EGTs seem about right
now
Nick
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Congratulation Lynn
You will have it home soon.
Wayne
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<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:of
fice" />Hey Lightning list, N13LN finally got airborne. It looks like ev
erything is in the ballpark for the light sport category I built her for
.
<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:
smarttags" />>>Lynn,
Back in the hanger after first flight this morning. A 20 minute flight w
ent well with no problems. Will full fuel and me she has a slight left r
oll , however after landing noticed that the right flap is down a =C2=BC
=9D, we will bring it up and that should straighten that out. I am
going to change the jets as we always do so did not run real fast today
but @ 2650rpm and 3500 feet I was getting 115knts TAS. May fly this af
ternoon some more.
Nick
Flew again this afternoon. Raised the flap even with the root and no rol
l, hands off now. Changed the Jets and the EGTs seem about right now
Nick
>>
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Good on you Lyn! I am sure you are very pleased with yourself and looking
forward to flying those hours off. I keep thinking that ZK-TDT will be the
next lightning to strike but the weekend weather Gods continue to persecute
me.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:52:42 GMT, "Wayne Lenox" <waynelenox@juno.com>
wrote:
> Congratulation Lynn
> You will have it home soon.
> Wayne
>
> -- IFLYSMODEL@aol.com wrote:
>
> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
> />Hey Lightning list, N13LN finally got airborne. It looks like
everything
> is in the ballpark for the light sport category I built her for.
> <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns
> "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />>>Lynn,
>
> Back in the hanger after first flight this morning. A 20 minute flight
> went well with no problems. Will full fuel and me she has a slight left
> roll , however after landing noticed that the right flap is down a
> , we will bring it up and that should straighten that out. I am
> going to change the jets as we always do so did not run real fast today
but
> @ 2650rpm and 3500 feet I was getting 115knts TAS. May fly this
afternoon
> some more.
>
> Nick
>
> Flew again this afternoon. Raised the flap even with the root and no
roll,
> hands off now. Changed the Jets and the EGTs seem about right now
>
> Nick
> >>
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Subject: | Re: Just need to sit in one near Dallas |
Bill,
Welcome to the Lightning list. I think you will love the Lightning and
enjoy the build process. My suggestion is that you combine the two things
that you "need to do" before witting the check. Your best plan would be to
attend the 2nd Annual Lightning Fly-In on 27 September. That way you could look
over the facilities, meet the Lightning team, learn about the build process,
get a demo flight for you and probably your "bride" as well, and of course
enjoy meeting other owners, builders, and Lightning enthusiast. What a great
deal.
Probably the closest flying Lightning to Dallas would be in Arizona, and
then the next closest is probably Shelbyville, Tennessee.
I have flown several Grumman Aircraft (Travelers, Cheetahs, and Tigers),
but it has been quite a while ago, so my memory is a little fuzzy. But I
think you will find the seating about as roomy but of course the Lightning
seating position is more reclined and therefore more comfortable on long flights.
Noise level really depends on your headset, but would probably be a little
less in the Lightning as the engine is not at loud. Wind noise increases
with speed and will depend on how well you get your canopy to seal with rubber
insulation.
Hope to see you at SYI on 27 September.
Blue Skies,
Buz Rich
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