Lightning-List Digest Archive

Wed 08/20/08


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 01:36 AM - Oil Cooler Adapter plate (James, Clive R)
     2. 05:54 AM - Re: Canopy Skins (GARY PENNINGTON)
     3. 06:01 AM - Re: Canopy Skins (flylightning)
     4. 08:40 AM - Re: Canopy Skins (jeynon)
     5. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: Canopy Skins (sttwig@wabroadband.com)
     6. 01:07 PM - Another bird in the air. (flylightning)
     7. 02:56 PM - Just need to sit in one near Dallas (Bill Strahan)
     8. 04:28 PM - N13LN Flies (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
     9. 05:48 PM - Re: N13LN Flies (n5pb@aol.com)
    10. 05:51 PM - Re: N13LN Flies (Jim Langley)
    11. 05:53 PM - Re: N13LN Flies (Wayne Lenox)
    12. 07:16 PM - Re: N13LN Flies ()
    13. 07:23 PM - Re: Just need to sit in one near Dallas (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:36:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Oil Cooler Adapter plate
    From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
    As some of you may know I've been chasing an oil temperature problem with my 3300. I know a few have been down this road in the past. Attached is a number of views of the old and the new Doughnut which shows the differences. Regards, Clive


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    Time: 05:54:23 AM PST US
    From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
    Subject: Re: Canopy Skins
    Good morning Bill and to all Lightning builders I bonded my canopy bubble on yesterday afternoon. Like everyone else, I've been wondering how to properly trim the skins. I need to think about it for a while, but I think your proposal might work well. Too late for me, but others may benefit. Happy days to all. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Sundquist<mailto:sttwig@wabroadband.com> To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Canopy Skins Bummer, perfect timing. I glued my canopy to the frame Monday evening. I have been thinking about how to mark the upper edge of the skin for trimming but haven't come up with a good idea. I drew a reference line on the canopy an inch and a half above the upper edge of the frame. I plan to measure back down from the line an inch and 3/8th when the skin is temporarily clamped in place to establish the upper trim line on the skin. Your method would have been a whole lot easier. Steve Sundquist Kit #48 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sales Email Account Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:51 PM To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Lightning-List: Canopy Skins Hi All, I have been struggling with getting the canopy skins trimmed where the acrylic is glued to the canopy frame. What I should have done and now recommend to you is, after the canopy frame is trimmed and mounted (hinged and gas struts installed) but, BEFORE you glue the canopy to the frame, clamp each canopy skin to the canopy frame and trace its outline both top and bottom of the frame on each canopy skin. This will give you a good reference point for trimming the skin at the top of the canopy flange. The bottom needs to be trimmed after the skin is glued on to achieve that close tolerance fit we all want. Bill Applegate, kit #49, Tucson, AZ. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhttp://forums.matronics. com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List<http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?Lightning-List> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on>


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    Time: 06:01:47 AM PST US
    From: "flylightning" <info@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Canopy Skins
    Steve, Your meathod is about the same as we do here, this allows for the thickness of the acrylic. nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Sundquist Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Canopy Skins Bummer, perfect timing. I glued my canopy to the frame Monday evening. I have been thinking about how to mark the upper edge of the skin for trimming but haven't come up with a good idea. I drew a reference line on the canopy an inch and a half above the upper edge of the frame. I plan to measure back down from the line an inch and 3/8th when the skin is temporarily clamped in place to establish the upper trim line on the skin. Your method would have been a whole lot easier. Steve Sundquist Kit #48 _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sales Email Account Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:51 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Canopy Skins Hi All, I have been struggling with getting the canopy skins trimmed where the acrylic is glued to the canopy frame. What I should have done and now recommend to you is, after the canopy frame is trimmed and mounted (hinged and gas struts installed) but, BEFORE you glue the canopy to the frame, clamp each canopy skin to the canopy frame and trace its outline both top and bottom of the frame on each canopy skin. This will give you a good reference point for trimming the skin at the top of the canopy flange. The bottom needs to be trimmed after the skin is glued on to achieve that close tolerance fit we all want. Bill Applegate, kit #49, Tucson, AZ. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 08:40:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Canopy Skins
    From: "jeynon" <jeynon2@verizon.net>
    What I did was after bonding the canopy to the inner canopy frame, I ran a piece of narrow painters tape (easy to remove and leaves no residue) around the outside of the canopy, matching the lower edge of the tape to the upper edge of the inner frame, as seen through the canopy. Then after rough trimming the outer skin I temporarily attached it to the canopy and got it fitting smoothly. Then I applied a second piece of tape matching the upper edges of new tape with the old, and marked the lower edge onto the skin. This is effectively the same as marking the offset line and measuring down, but I found it easier and more reliable. Hey, I'm finally able to give someone else advise! I must be making progress. John Eynon Lightning Kit #53 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199639#199639


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    Time: 12:53:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Canopy Skins
    From: sttwig@wabroadband.com
    John, I like your suggestion. It offers some preciseness that mine method does not. In my world, preciseness is important, way more important than it needs to be. Thank you for your suggestion. Steve Sundquist Kit #48 > > What I did was after bonding the canopy to the inner canopy frame, I ran a > piece of narrow painters tape (easy to remove and leaves no residue) > around the outside of the canopy, matching the lower edge of the tape to > the upper edge of the inner frame, as seen through the canopy. Then after > rough trimming the outer skin I temporarily attached it to the canopy and > got it fitting smoothly. Then I applied a second piece of tape matching > the upper edges of new tape with the old, and marked the lower edge onto > the skin. > > This is effectively the same as marking the offset line and measuring > down, but I found it easier and more reliable. > > Hey, I'm finally able to give someone else advise! I must be making > progress. > > John Eynon > Lightning Kit #53 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199639#199639 > >


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    Time: 01:07:01 PM PST US
    From: "flylightning" <info@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Another bird in the air.
    Lynn Nelsen's Lightning has flown for the first time this morning. About a half hour flight went well with no problems and a few typical tweeks to make. This is the second customer aircraft fitted with the optional wing tip extensions and performance is outstanding. Look for more info soon, and a flight report as soon as Lynn takes over flight testing. Nick


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    Time: 02:56:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Just need to sit in one near Dallas
    From: "Bill Strahan" <bill@gdsx.com>
    I'm new to the list, but have been following the Lightning for almost a year now. My wife and I have agreed on my building a Lightning, and she's ready for me to just go ahead and do it. I really need two things before I write that first check: 1) I need to get out to Shelbyville and see the operation and get a demo ride. 2) I need to get my wife to just sit in the plane and make sure she'd be okay on long trips. I'll take care of #1 as soon as my Grumman is out of the shop from its annual and I can fly out to Shelbyville. My wife insists #2 isn't required, but I know better. I don't expect an issue, since she's a slender little yoga teacher, but we've put over 500 hours on the Grumman and I need to make sure that she's every bit as willing in the smaller Lightning. So, is there anyone within a few hundred miles of Dallas that would be willing to let my wife sit down in the right seat and try it on for size? If so, that would save me the scheduling issue of getting us both out to Shelbyville, and I can move a little sooner on joining the club. In the meantime, can anyone compare it to the Grumman AA5 series as far as comfort, shoulder room, and noise levels? Kind regards, Bill Strahan pending me getting a demo ride...and her sitting in the plane and ma Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199705#199705


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    Time: 04:28:46 PM PST US
    From: IFLYSMODEL@aol.com
    Subject: N13LN Flies
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    Time: 05:48:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: N13LN Flies
    From: n5pb@aol.com
    Excellent!!! Congratulations...am I next am=C2-I next am=C2-I next???? =C2- :-) Paul -----Original Message----- From: IFLYSMODEL@aol.com Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 7:26 pm Subject: Lightning-List: N13LN Flies Hey Lightning list, N13LN finally got airborne. It looks like everything is in the ballpark for the light sport category=C2-I built her for. >>Lynn, =C2- Back in the hanger after first flight this morning. A 20 minute flight went well with no problems. Will full fuel and me she has a slight left roll , ho wever after landing noticed that the right flap is down a =C2=BC=9D, w e will bring it up and that should straighten that out. I am going to change the jets as we always do so did not run real fast today but @ 2650rpm and 3 500 feet I was getting 115knts TAS.=C2- May fly this afternoon some more. =C2- Nick =C2- Flew again this afternoon. Raised the flap even with the root and no roll, h ands off now. Changed the Jets and the EGTs seem about right now =C2- Nick =C2->> It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. -= - The Lightning-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! -= --> http://forums.matronics.com -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 05:51:53 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: N13LN Flies
    Great news Lynn.. Let=99s celebrate!! From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of IFLYSMODEL@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:27 PM Subject: Lightning-List: N13LN Flies Hey Lightning list, N13LN finally got airborne. It looks like everything is in the ballpark for the light sport categoryI built her for. >>Lynn, Back in the hanger after first flight this morning. A 20 minute flight went well with no problems. Will full fuel and me she has a slight left roll , however after landing noticed that the right flap is down a =C2=BC=9D, we will bring it up and that should straighten that out. I am going to change the jets as we always do so did not run real fast today but @ 2650rpm and 3500 feet I was getting 115knts TAS. May fly this afternoon some more. Nick Flew again this afternoon. Raised the flap even with the root and no roll, hands off now. Changed the Jets and the EGTs seem about right now Nick >> _____ It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal <http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047> here.


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    Time: 05:53:48 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne Lenox" <waynelenox@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: N13LN Flies
    Congratulation Lynn You will have it home soon. Wayne -- IFLYSMODEL@aol.com wrote: <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:of fice" />Hey Lightning list, N13LN finally got airborne. It looks like ev erything is in the ballpark for the light sport category I built her for . <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office: smarttags" />>>Lynn, Back in the hanger after first flight this morning. A 20 minute flight w ent well with no problems. Will full fuel and me she has a slight left r oll , however after landing noticed that the right flap is down a =C2=BC =9D, we will bring it up and that should straighten that out. I am going to change the jets as we always do so did not run real fast today but @ 2650rpm and 3500 feet I was getting 115knts TAS. May fly this af ternoon some more. Nick Flew again this afternoon. Raised the flap even with the root and no rol l, hands off now. Changed the Jets and the EGTs seem about right now Nick >> It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal her ======================== -======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ====== ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find single Christians that want to meet you today. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ngh5yfi6lMa1WxVnr0mfn 0IyxaHhc7dkDr6I7nG0zwvolBB/


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    Time: 07:16:10 PM PST US
    From: <ritchie@wave.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: N13LN Flies
    Good on you Lyn! I am sure you are very pleased with yourself and looking forward to flying those hours off. I keep thinking that ZK-TDT will be the next lightning to strike but the weekend weather Gods continue to persecute me. On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:52:42 GMT, "Wayne Lenox" <waynelenox@juno.com> wrote: > Congratulation Lynn > You will have it home soon. > Wayne > > -- IFLYSMODEL@aol.com wrote: > > <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" > />Hey Lightning list, N13LN finally got airborne. It looks like everything > is in the ballpark for the light sport category I built her for. > <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns > "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />>>Lynn, > > Back in the hanger after first flight this morning. A 20 minute flight > went well with no problems. Will full fuel and me she has a slight left > roll , however after landing noticed that the right flap is down a > , we will bring it up and that should straighten that out. I am > going to change the jets as we always do so did not run real fast today but > @ 2650rpm and 3500 feet I was getting 115knts TAS. May fly this afternoon > some more. > > Nick > > Flew again this afternoon. Raised the flap even with the root and no roll, > hands off now. Changed the Jets and the EGTs seem about right now > > Nick > >> > > > > It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal > her========================-====================================================================================================================================================== > ____________________________________________________________ > Click here to find single Christians that want to meet you today. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ngh5yfi6lMa1WxVnr0mfn0IyxaHhc7dkDr6I7nG0zwvolBB/


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    Time: 07:23:41 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Just need to sit in one near Dallas
    Bill, Welcome to the Lightning list. I think you will love the Lightning and enjoy the build process. My suggestion is that you combine the two things that you "need to do" before witting the check. Your best plan would be to attend the 2nd Annual Lightning Fly-In on 27 September. That way you could look over the facilities, meet the Lightning team, learn about the build process, get a demo flight for you and probably your "bride" as well, and of course enjoy meeting other owners, builders, and Lightning enthusiast. What a great deal. Probably the closest flying Lightning to Dallas would be in Arizona, and then the next closest is probably Shelbyville, Tennessee. I have flown several Grumman Aircraft (Travelers, Cheetahs, and Tigers), but it has been quite a while ago, so my memory is a little fuzzy. But I think you will find the seating about as roomy but of course the Lightning seating position is more reclined and therefore more comfortable on long flights. Noise level really depends on your headset, but would probably be a little less in the Lightning as the engine is not at loud. Wind noise increases with speed and will depend on how well you get your canopy to seal with rubber insulation. Hope to see you at SYI on 27 September. Blue Skies, Buz Rich **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)




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