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Sat 10/04/08


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:40 AM - Prop (Daniel DW)
     2. 07:24 AM - Re: Prop (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
     3. 07:56 AM - Re: Prop (Daniel DW)
     4. 08:26 AM - Re: Prop (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
     5. 08:43 AM - Re: Prop (James, Clive R)
     6. 09:21 AM - Real cruise speed (rimorbod)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:40:36 AM PST US
    From: Daniel DW <ddw55@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Prop
    Hi=2C any one flying an Esqual with a Sensenich 64x53 wooden prop? on a Jabiru 33 00I would appreciate a short reply. Kind regards Danny Esqual PH-DWD _________________________________________________________________ Alle fun stuff van Messenger nu verzameld op =E9=E9n coole site! http://www.messengerbillboard.be/nl


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    Time: 07:24:32 AM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Prop
    Hi Danny, The Sensenich W64ZK53 is one of the props that I have tried in the past on my modified Esqual with a 3300 solid lifter engine. Actually I have tried a 64ZK51, 53, & a 54, a carbon fiber ground adjustable, a 62FK58, and am currently using a 64ZK55. The 62FK58 was slightly faster at WOT, but not at cruise rpms. None of the props I have tried "have been enough prop" as I have been able to over speed the engine's max rpm of 3300 at WOT with all of them. I am currently waiting on a 62FK60 in hopes that it will be the right prop. You would think that the ground adjustable (same diameter and blade profile as the ZK) with the pitch adjusted to 56 or so would do the trick, but for some reason it is just not at efficient at the higher rpms as the straight wooden props. With the ground adjustable adjusted to 54 inch pitch it is some 5 to 8 mph slower than a wooded 64ZK54. Where ever I sat the pitch of the ground adjustable it seemed to loose efficiency when compared to a wooded prop of the same diameter and pitch when above about 150 mph true airspeed. How is your Esqual flying? Blue Skies, Buz **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)


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    Time: 07:56:21 AM PST US
    From: Daniel DW <ddw55@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Prop
    Hi Buz=2C thanks for the information. I have a W64ZK53 on the shelf. The first (and only) flight with my Esqual was with the W64ZK51. For every change I have to show the local FAA an airworthiness certificate of an aircraft with exactly the same configuration (meaning: engine=2C air craft and prop). That's why I'm looking for such a document and the reason for my e-mail. We lost a lot of time in the paintshop but hope to have the aircraft ready by the end of November.Kind regards Danny From: N1BZRich@aol.comDate: Sat=2C 4 Oct 2008 10:24:10 -0400Subject: Re: Li ghtning-List: PropTo: lightning-list@matronics.com Hi Danny=2C The Sensenich W64ZK53 is one of the props that I have tried in the past on my modified Esqual with a 3300 solid lifter engine. Actually I have tr ied a 64ZK51=2C 53=2C & a 54=2C a carbon fiber ground adjustable=2C a 62FK5 8=2C and am currently using a 64ZK55. The 62FK58 was slightly faster at WO T=2C but not at cruise rpms. None of the props I have tried "have been eno ugh prop" as I have been able to over speed the engine's max rpm of 3300 at WOT with all of them. I am currently waiting on a 62FK60 in hopes that it will be the right prop. You would think that the ground adjustable (same diameter and blade profile as the ZK) with the pitch adjusted to 56 or so w ould do the trick=2C but for some reason it is just not at efficient at the higher rpms as the straight wooden props. With the ground adjustable adju sted to 54 inch pitch it is some 5 to 8 mph slower than a wooded 64ZK54. W here ever I sat the pitch of the ground adjustable it seemed to loose effic iency when compared to a wooded prop of the same diameter and pitch when ab ove about 150 mph true airspeed. How is your Esqual flying? Blue Skies=2C Buz New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining=2C Mo vies=2C Events=2C News & more. Try it out! _________________________________________________________________ Alle fun stuff van Messenger nu verzameld op =E9=E9n coole site! http://www.messengerbillboard.be/nl


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    Time: 08:26:16 AM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Prop
    In a message dated 10/4/2008 10:56:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ddw55@hotmail.com writes: For every change I have to show the local FAA an airworthiness certificate of an aircraft with exactly the same configuration (meaning: engine, aircraft and prop). Wow, your guys are tough over there. Makes it hard to do any real experimenting in an efficient manner. Good luck with your "jet". Buz **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)


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    Time: 08:43:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Prop
    From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
    Danny, I have that one on mine, can you not refer to my aircraft? PH-GCJ CJ -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel DW Sent: 04 October 2008 15:56 Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Prop Hi Buz, thanks for the information. I have a W64ZK53 on the shelf. The first (and only) flight with my Esqual was with the W64ZK51. For every change I have to show the local FAA an airworthiness certificate of an aircraft with exactly the same configuration (meaning: engine, aircraft and prop). That's why I'm looking for such a document and the reason for my e-mail. We lost a lot of time in the paintshop but hope to have the aircraft ready by the end of November. Kind regards Danny ________________________________ From: N1BZRich@aol.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Prop Hi Danny, The Sensenich W64ZK53 is one of the props that I have tried in the past on my modified Esqual with a 3300 solid lifter engine. Actually I have tried a 64ZK51, 53, & a 54, a carbon fiber ground adjustable, a 62FK58, and am currently using a 64ZK55. The 62FK58 was slightly faster at WOT, but not at cruise rpms. None of the props I have tried "have been enough prop" as I have been able to over speed the engine's max rpm of 3300 at WOT with all of them. I am currently waiting on a 62FK60 in hopes that it will be the right prop. You would think that the ground adjustable (same diameter and blade profile as the ZK) with the pitch adjusted to 56 or so would do the trick, but for some reason it is just not at efficient at the higher rpms as the straight wooden props. With the ground adjustable adjusted to 54 inch pitch it is some 5 to 8 mph slower than a wooded 64ZK54. Where ever I sat the pitch of the ground adjustable it seemed to loose efficiency when compared to a wooded prop of the same diameter and pitch when above about 150 mph true airspeed. How is your Esqual flying? Blue Skies, Buz ________________________________ New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out <http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001> ! st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Start het nieuwe schooljaar sterk en voordelig! Windows <http://www.startsterk.be>


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    Time: 09:21:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Real cruise speed
    From: "rimorbod" <mcpc@wp.pl>
    Hi! I have got a question to owner's an aircraft lightning. I would like to know what are the real cruise speed (TAS) and maximum speed (in practice). Does anyone know? R Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7364#207364




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