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Tue 10/07/08


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 02:35 AM - Re: Real cruise speed (rimorbod)
     2. 04:50 AM - Re: Real cruise speed (EAFerguson@AOL.COM)
     3. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Real cruise speed (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM)
     4. 06:28 AM - Re: Real cruise speed (rimorbod)
     5. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: Real cruise speed (EAFerguson@AOL.COM)
     6. 09:57 AM - Arion Lightning Newsletter for October (N1BZRich@aol.com)
     7. 10:11 AM - Re: Arion Lightning Newsletter for October (flylightning)
     8. 02:23 PM - Re: Back pain (EAFerguson@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:35:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Real cruise speed
    From: "rimorbod" <mcpc@wp.pl>
    Can enybody answer my question? I want to know something about performance on flight level 0 and optimal high (optimal = the best cruise speed). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7736#207736


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    Time: 04:50:59 AM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Real cruise speed
    In a message dated 10/7/2008 5:35:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mcpc@wp.pl writes: Can enybody answer my question? I want to know something about performance on flight level 0 and optimal high (optimal = the best cruise speed). Regular or Light Sport? Earl Ferguson **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/7/2008 5:35:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mcpc@wp.pl writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Can enybody answer my question?&nbsp; I want to know something about performance on flight level 0 and optimal high (optimal = the best cruise speed).<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Regular or Light Sport?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Earl Ferguson</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV CLASS="aol_ad_footer" ID="efe4d1ec85c473a77174573704f7d74"><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">New <B>MapQuest Local</B> shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. <A title="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001" href="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001" target="_blank">Try it out</A>!</FONT></DIV> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 05:52:12 AM PST US
    From: IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Real cruise speed
    Hey Earl: My light sport configured Lightning cruised at 133 mph indicated (147 true) at 5500 MSL which had a density altitude of 6900 feet. (2900 RPM and about 5 gal per hour) Lynn Nelsen In a message dated 10/7/2008 7:51:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, EAFerguson@AOL.COM writes: In a message dated 10/7/2008 5:35:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mcpc@wp.pl writes: Can enybody answer my question? I want to know something about performance on flight level 0 and optimal high (optimal = the best cruise speed). Regular or Light Sport? Earl Ferguson ____________________________________ New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. _Try it out_ (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ! **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV>Hey Earl: My light sport configured Lightning cruised at 133 mph indicated (147 true) at 5500 MSL which had a density altitude of 6900 feet. (2900 RPM and about 5 gal per hour)</DIV> <DIV>Lynn Nelsen</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/7/2008 7:51:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, EAFerguson@AOL.COM writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/7/2008 5:35:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mcpc@wp.pl writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Can enybody answer my question?&nbsp; I want to know something about performance on flight level 0 and optimal high (optimal = the best cruise speed).<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Regular or Light Sport?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Earl Ferguson</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR> <DIV class=aol_ad_footer id=efe4d1ec85c473a77174573704f7d74><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> New <B>MapQuest Local</B> shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News &amp; more. <A title=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001 href="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001" target=_blank>Try it out</A>!</FONT></DIV><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></B></PRE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV CLASS="aol_ad_footer" ID="de32e9be4c80d624f62ab75df1e36363"><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">New <B>MapQuest Local</B> shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. <A title="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001" href="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001" target="_blank">Try it out</A>!</FONT></DIV> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 06:28:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Real cruise speed
    From: "rimorbod" <mcpc@wp.pl>
    I'm interesting regular lightning. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7754#207754


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    Time: 06:54:37 AM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Real cruise speed
    In a message dated 10/7/2008 8:52:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, IFLYSMODEL@aol.com writes: Hey Earl: My light sport configured Lightning cruised at 133 mph indicated (147 true) at 5500 MSL which had a density altitude of 6900 feet. (2900 RPM and about 5 gal per hour) Lynn Nelsen Lynn, You results are much better than mine. I don't have data at the same conditions, but the max range cruise used for my coast to coast record trip came to about 101 KTAS (116mph true) at 8500'. Density alt varied, this is an average for August weather - OAT 18 to 21C. Fuel burn was 4.2gph at altitude. I set power for fuel burn, so RPM varied a bit and I didn't record it, around 2750+/- from memory. Note that this isn't a normal cruise, it was based on minimizing fuel stops - 4 in 1840NM or an average of 386 NM (432SM) per leg. Based on fuel remaining at stops, I could have used a slightly higher power setting/fuel burn and maybe taken 5 or 10 minutes off the total trip time. Since I had to spend the night (10 hours) on the ground at Demming NM because of the Light Sport limitation it wouldn't have made much difference. Earl Ferguson . **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/7/2008 8:52:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, IFLYSMODEL@aol.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV>Hey Earl: My light sport configured Lightning cruised at 133 mph indicated (147 true) at 5500 MSL which had a density altitude of 6900 feet. (2900 RPM and about 5 gal per hour)</DIV> <DIV>Lynn Nelsen</DIV></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Lynn,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>You results are much better than mine. I don't have data at the same conditions, but the&nbsp;max range cruise used for&nbsp;my coast to coast record trip came to about 101 KTAS (116mph true) at 8500'. Density alt varied, this is an average for August weather - OAT 18 to 21C. Fuel burn was 4.2gph at altitude. I set power for fuel burn, so RPM varied a bit and I didn't record it, around 2750+/- from memory. Note that this isn't a normal cruise, it was based on minimizing fuel stops - 4 in 1840NM or an average of 386 NM (432SM) per leg. Based on fuel remaining at stops, I could have used a slightly higher power setting/fuel burn and maybe taken 5 or 10 minutes off the total trip time. Since I had to spend the night (10 hours) on the ground at Demming NM because of the Light Sport limitation it wouldn't have made much difference.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Earl Ferguson</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>. </DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV CLASS="aol_ad_footer" ID="db40e5d566285c3d710d61a1748e3e6"><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">New <B>MapQuest Local</B> shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. <A title="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001" href="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001" target="_blank">Try it out</A>!</FONT></DIV> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 09:57:16 AM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@aol.com
    Subject: Arion Lightning Newsletter for October
    All, The Lightning newsletter for October (Issue 1-9) should be posted now at the Lightning web site: _http://www.flylightning.net/_ (http://www.flylightning.net/) I sent it to Pete (and Jim Langley) this past Sunday for posting. I think Pete may still have been out of town then, but it is probably posted by now. This issue covers the recent Lightning "homecoming" and annual fly-in at SYI as well as the standard updates on factory, dealer, and builder flyer news. Look for a special feature by Dick Cleavinger on one of his recent flights in Colorado. You will also be able to see the very first newsletter "Centerfold" of the month which should help to make this issue certainly a "collectors edition". Or not. As a side issue, I often have trouble calling up the latest newsletter immediately after it gets posted (I have no idea why) so if anyone has any suggestions for this computer "challenged" operator, I would like to have some suggestions. Here in the southeast, October is generally a great month for flying weather, and this year seems to be no exception. Hopefully everyone is enjoying it and will have some interesting flights to write about for future issues. I may be the exception to that as I "over G'ed" my back and am still having pain just going about daily activities. Oh well, thanks for pain killers. Please continue to send in articles or information that you would like published. It is a great way to share ideas and help other Lightning builders and flyers. Blue Skies Buz **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV>All,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The Lightning newsletter for October (Issue 1-9) should be posted now at the Lightning web site: </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.flylightning.net/">http://www.flylightning.net/</A></DIV> <DIV>I sent it to Pete (and Jim Langley) this past Sunday for posting.&nbsp; I think Pete may still have been out of town then, but it is probably posted by now.&nbsp; </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This issue covers the recent Lightning "homecoming" and annual fly-in at SYI as well as the standard updates on factory, dealer, and builder flyer news.&nbsp; Look for a special feature by Dick Cleavinger on one of his recent flights in Colorado.&nbsp; You will also be able to see the very first newsletter "Centerfold" of the month which should help to make this issue certainly a "collectors edition".&nbsp;&nbsp;Or not.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;As a side issue, I often have trouble calling up the latest newsletter immediately after it gets posted (I have no idea why) so if anyone has any suggestions for this computer "challenged"&nbsp;operator, I would like to have some suggestions.&nbsp; </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Here in the southeast, October is generally a great month for flying weather, and this year seems to be no exception.&nbsp; Hopefully everyone is enjoying it and will have some interesting flights to write about for future issues.&nbsp; I may be the exception to that as I "over G'ed" my back and am still having pain just going about daily activities.&nbsp; Oh well, thanks for pain killers.&nbsp; Please continue to send in articles&nbsp;or information that you would like published.&nbsp; It is a great way to share ideas and help other Lightning builders and flyers.</DIV> <DIV>Blue Skies</DIV> <DIV>Buz</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV CLASS="aol_ad_footer" ID="cea0a88744cd40a19a07ffadfa228b6"><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">New <b>MapQuest Local</b> shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. <a href="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002">Try it out! </a></FONT></DIV> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 10:11:43 AM PST US
    From: "flylightning" <info@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Arion Lightning Newsletter for October
    Looking Forward to reading it Buz. Also to the group just because we are real excited about it. We all know what the tip extensions were designed for specifically and I can tell you that we are now deeply seated in testing and documentation for that.Look for more detailed info at the Sebring event. Nick Otterback Arion Aircraft, LLC _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Arion Lightning Newsletter for October All, The Lightning newsletter for October (Issue 1-9) should be posted now at the Lightning web site: http://www.flylightning.net/ I sent it to Pete (and Jim Langley) this past Sunday for posting. I think Pete may still have been out of town then, but it is probably posted by now. This issue covers the recent Lightning "homecoming" and annual fly-in at SYI as well as the standard updates on factory, dealer, and builder flyer news. Look for a special feature by Dick Cleavinger on one of his recent flights in Colorado. You will also be able to see the very first newsletter "Centerfold" of the month which should help to make this issue certainly a "collectors edition". Or not. As a side issue, I often have trouble calling up the latest newsletter immediately after it gets posted (I have no idea why) so if anyone has any suggestions for this computer "challenged" operator, I would like to have some suggestions. Here in the southeast, October is generally a great month for flying weather, and this year seems to be no exception. Hopefully everyone is enjoying it and will have some interesting flights to write about for future issues. I may be the exception to that as I "over G'ed" my back and am still having pain just going about daily activities. Oh well, thanks for pain killers. Please continue to send in articles or information that you would like published. It is a great way to share ideas and help other Lightning builders and flyers. Blue Skies Buz _____ New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! <http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002>


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    Time: 02:23:47 PM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Back pain
    In a message dated 10/7/2008 12:58:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, N1BZRich@aol.com writes: I may be the exception to that as I "over G'ed" my back and am still having pain just going about daily activities. Buz, Welcome to Senior Citizenhood. In addition to your Geriatrics Internist you will need one or more Orthopedist (one for each joint). We also have a family Oncologist and I hope you are spared that privilege. Tri-Care for Life becomes a household word. Earl Ferguson **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/7/2008 12:58:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, N1BZRich@aol.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I may be the exception to that as I "over G'ed" my back and am still having pain just going about daily activities.&nbsp;</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Buz, </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Welcome to Senior Citizenhood. In addition to your Geriatrics Internist you will need one or more Orthopedist (one for each joint). We also have a family Oncologist and I hope you are spared that privilege. Tri-Care for Life becomes a household word.&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Earl Ferguson</DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV CLASS="aol_ad_footer" ID="2e90114fabd69626b10cd581586b1b38"><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">New <B>MapQuest Local</B> shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. <A title="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001" href="http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001" target="_blank">Try it out</A>!</FONT></DIV> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>




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