---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/20/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:31 AM - Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (Matt Dralle) 1. 06:45 AM - Re: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (James, Clive R) 2. 07:04 AM - Re: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (Pete Krotje) 3. 07:48 AM - Re: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (Jim and Mary Young) 4. 08:16 AM - Re: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (Pete Krotje) 5. 08:18 AM - Re: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (Hugh Sontag) 6. 11:53 AM - Re: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? (Hugh Sontag) 7. 09:27 PM - Plexiglass Scratch Repair... (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:54 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:14 AM PST US Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? From: "James, Clive R" To be honest we get that much junk mail from Matt maybe it would be better if we had the odd aviation advert? Maybe that would shut him up. He can send me my 5 bucks back then.....:-) Regards, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: 20 November 2008 08:25 Subject: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:19 AM PST US From: "Pete Krotje" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? Clive, What you do not get from Matt and his lists is the hundreds of spam messages that come from the Yahoogroups lists. Add to that the extra convenience of the search and archive functions and we have a much better deal than the "free" yahoogroups lists. To put up with a few messages in November seems a small price. Maybe you should send 15 bucks and you'd feel better about it. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Clive R Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:44 AM europa-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? To be honest we get that much junk mail from Matt maybe it would be better if we had the odd aviation advert? Maybe that would shut him up. He can send me my 5 bucks back then.....:-) Regards, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: 20 November 2008 08:25 Subject: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:32 AM PST US From: "Jim and Mary Young" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? As a member of the Pipistrel, ds101-Linux, and Linux Yahoo group lists I don't see any spam. Perhaps my email provider is filtering the spam but I did a quick check in my "spam" folder and didn't see anything related to those groups. Jim Young -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Krotje Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? Clive, What you do not get from Matt and his lists is the hundreds of spam messages that come from the Yahoogroups lists. Add to that the extra convenience of the search and archive functions and we have a much better deal than the "free" yahoogroups lists. To put up with a few messages in November seems a small price. Maybe you should send 15 bucks and you'd feel better about it. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Clive R Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:44 AM europa-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? To be honest we get that much junk mail from Matt maybe it would be better if we had the odd aviation advert? Maybe that would shut him up. He can send me my 5 bucks back then.....:-) Regards, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: 20 November 2008 08:25 Subject: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:33 AM PST US From: "Pete Krotje" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? The spam has no link to let you know it has any connection to a yahoogroup but when you subscribe to a new group be prepared for an additional flood of spam. We get 300+ per day now and I know they come from the yahoogroup exposure because I use a specific email address only for yahoo groups and the spam that comes in on that email address is unbelievable. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim and Mary Young Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? As a member of the Pipistrel, ds101-Linux, and Linux Yahoo group lists I don't see any spam. Perhaps my email provider is filtering the spam but I did a quick check in my "spam" folder and didn't see anything related to those groups. Jim Young -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Krotje Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? Clive, What you do not get from Matt and his lists is the hundreds of spam messages that come from the Yahoogroups lists. Add to that the extra convenience of the search and archive functions and we have a much better deal than the "free" yahoogroups lists. To put up with a few messages in November seems a small price. Maybe you should send 15 bucks and you'd feel better about it. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Clive R Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:44 AM europa-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? To be honest we get that much junk mail from Matt maybe it would be better if we had the odd aviation advert? Maybe that would shut him up. He can send me my 5 bucks back then.....:-) Regards, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: 20 November 2008 08:25 Subject: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:14 AM PST US From: Hugh Sontag Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? Yahoo email groups are free. Best Regards, Hugh Sontag Qdea Technical Support > >To be honest we get that much junk mail from Matt maybe it would be >better if we had the odd aviation advert? Maybe that would shut him up. >He can send me my 5 bucks back then.....:-) >Regards, Clive > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt >Dralle >Sent: 20 November 2008 08:25 >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Subject: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? > > >Dear Listers, > >The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this >year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm >hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their >support... ;-) > >Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep >these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the >members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely >have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the >Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really >like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the >members appreciate that too. > >Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the >continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that >have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! >Thank you! > >Matt Dralle >Email List Administrator > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:20 AM PST US From: Hugh Sontag Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? I belong to several Yahoo email lists and this Matronix list. I have traced the spam I receive due to this list to the web-based posting of Lightning emails *with* the full email addresses. I have never received spam from a Yahoo group that has a moderator who must grant list access to new members. If you don't believe it, just Google "Lightning-List" and you'll find that emails are readily available to any browser. Here's an example: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/lightning-list/0016.html The email address *you use* is being published on the web when you post to the Matronix Lightning email list. I just got done abandoning an email address that I was using for the Lightning list, and am now using a Lightning-only address that is filtered by Gmail's spam filters before I see it. Best Regards, Hugh Sontag Qdea Technical Support > >Clive, > >What you do not get from Matt and his lists is the hundreds of spam messages >that come from the Yahoogroups lists. Add to that the extra convenience of >the search and archive functions and we have a much better deal than the >"free" yahoogroups lists. To put up with a few messages in November seems a >small price. > >Maybe you should send 15 bucks and you'd feel better about it. > >Pete > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Clive >R >Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:44 AM >To: lightning-list@matronics.com; jabiruengine-list@matronics.com; >europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? > > > >To be honest we get that much junk mail from Matt maybe it would be >better if we had the odd aviation advert? Maybe that would shut him up. >He can send me my 5 bucks back then.....:-) >Regards, Clive > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt >Dralle >Sent: 20 November 2008 08:25 >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Subject: Lightning-List: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? > > >Dear Listers, > >The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this >year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm >hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their >support... ;-) > >Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep >these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the >members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely >have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the >Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really >like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the >members appreciate that too. > >Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the >continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that >have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! >Thank you! > >Matt Dralle >Email List Administrator > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:35 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Lightning-List: Plexiglass Scratch Repair... Dear Listers, During the fitting of the Plexiglass canopy on my RV-8, I managed to put some pretty disheartening scratches in the windscreen section. You can see from the pictures that they looked pretty bad. A call to Van's revealed that a replacement canopy would be $640 + $250 shipping to California! Ack. So what to do... A bit of surfing and I found this "Scratch Off" windshield repair kit for $35 on the Aircraft Spruce web site: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/scratchoff.php Frankly, it just seemed too good to be true. Nothing for $35 could be that "magic" I thought, but what did I have to lose at this point.... Well, the kit arrived yesterday and I decided to give it a try tonight. In a word: WOW! In about 2 hours the windscreen looked as good as new - no kidding - AS GOOD AS NEW! The pictures really don't do the repair justice. It looks better in person. There are basically two sponges in the kit with four decreasingly porous pastes. You just put some of the first paste on the sponge and buff it in with a drill at 1200 RPM or less. Then you wash everything down good including the sponge and windshield with warm water. Then you use the next finer paste and repeat the process. Etc, etc, until you've used the 4th paste that is kind of like car wax. Frankly, the scratches were gone after the first application of paste - I started at #2 based on the instructions and the "observed severity" of the scratch depth. So, the bottom line is, if you've got scuffs or mild scratches in your Plexiglass buy this repair kit. It works! 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