Lightning-List Digest Archive

Sat 11/22/08


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     0. 12:52 AM - LOC (Matt Dralle)
     1. 12:01 AM - Touched some nerves? (AVN100@aol.com)
     2. 06:45 AM - Re: Props and selection (Tex Mantell)
     3. 07:51 AM - Re: Props and selection (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
     4. 08:46 AM - Re: Touched some nerves? (N1BZRich@aol.com)
     5. 09:23 PM - Re: Touched some nerves? (Johnny Thompson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:52:08 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: LOC
    Dear Listers, Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator


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    Time: 12:01:56 AM PST US
    From: AVN100@aol.com
    Subject: Touched some nerves?
    Wow! Touched a coupla nerves or what? First.... Pete Krotchety, unlax and read your own forum. At the time I read it, EVERY one of the folks (active customers, perhaps, since you didn't immediately personally crap on them) except you posting on the subject was happy with their Yahoo experience and some at least a bit unhappy with Matronics.. Have you asked Yahoo for help with your particular problem? Available 7/24 (not sure about Matronics coverage). The other day I heard someone else make your exact same claim of sudden spam flooding to their "secret" yahoo address and it turned out they forgot they were also using their "secret" Yahoo address for bestiality porn. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just a thought. And I would like to withdraw my compliment on Arion customer service attitude and responsiveness to customer feedback since you just vowed (as official, permanent, unalterable company policy apparently) to never cooperate in any way with any present or future Yahoo Lightning Group no matter how many current and potential customers participate in it. Deming would be SO proud. Second...to Petey again. .Sincerely sorry about your problem with my font's appearance but any cretin could see my tone was tentative, cordial, and neophyte toward members of this group (senior instructor, examiner, and accident investigator outside) rather than the SHOUTING you accused me of. Today of course I am blending in extra length plus sarcasm and humor in response to your crucifixion attempt... in case you hadn't noticed. Hopefully for the first and last time. Again, I am writing this in Times 12, plain, and it looks fine on digest and the HTML site. What you saw may be a glitch in that Matronics stone-age programming language. If everyone sees it too large and bold on this post too please advise and I will not post again without exploring the cause. Third.... Hi John! Nice of you to jump in and pile on. You can call me Steve. I see you're from Crossville, TN. Another Arion employee or work for TradeAPlane or that trailer place outside of town or ??? See the parenthetical above for my resume. Not that it matters. Fourth and finally....to kinder gentler Jim. Apologies to all if my observations ended up in the wrong topic... as I suppose these will also...but do you seriously not ever want to hear comparisons (even complimentary ones... I noted your vastly superior Vne) between your chosen aircraft and its nearest and thusfar more successful (in registrations foreign and domestic) competitor? Let's say you prefer your head in the sand on that as is your right. Would you arrogantly deny such information to others here? Even that one post? Geez. Tough crowd. Except for the backchannel support I get from those afraid to risk the curmudgeons' wrath in public... with their names known, kits underway needing support, and all that. Look - show me a single factual error in that comparison or another aircraft closer in price, style, dimensions, useful load, and performance to the Lightning SP variant and I will burn rubber backing up to apologize. Otherwise.... Happy Holidays to one and all. **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)


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    Time: 06:45:44 AM PST US
    From: "Tex Mantell" <wb2ssj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Props and selection
    I am building the normal Lightning, not light sport. No wing tip extensions, and have hydraulis lifters. thanks for your reply. Tex ----- Original Message ----- From: N1BZRich@aol.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:40 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Props and selection Tex, I can't remember if you are building to light sport standards and whether you have solid lifters or hydraulic. Buz ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. AOL.com today!


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    Time: 07:51:10 AM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Props and selection
    Tex, Assuming you will do gear leg fairings and the Lightning wheel pants, I would recommend either a Sensenich 62FK58 or possibly a 64ZK55. The FK will probably give slightly better takeoff and climb performance and about the same cruise. I am sure Nick will also have some recommendations, but based on what I have seen flying different props on several different Lightnings, I would go with one of the above. Blue Skies, Buz **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)


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    Time: 08:46:23 AM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Touched some nerves?
    Steve, Wow, although I thought your first post was informative with some possible good suggestions on the list and interesting information on the Sport Cruiser, your second one was a little "snippy". No problem, lists like this are for people to exchange information and "points of view". But it has been my experience that you can "win friends and influence people" if you are nicer in your choice of words as you exchange information. But then, that is just my take of things, your mileage may vary. By the way, you have in interesting email address - AVN100. Are you, or have you ever been, an FAA employee in the Flight Procedures Office? If so, then the old saying about "we are not happy until you are not happy" might be appropriate. Just kidding of course, you should be laughing at that joke. Blue Skies, Buz **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)


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    Time: 09:23:20 PM PST US
    From: "Johnny Thompson" <8wn@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Touched some nerves?
    Hi Buz, your just too nice. I have met his (AVN100) attitude many times and there is nothing you can do for him. As for me I am enjoying my Lightning and the great people involved. I just add AVN100 to the blocked list. Just comments from an old retired Army aviator that doesn't work for anyone and won't listen to anyone who craps on my friends for whatever reason. Life is too short. Johnny Thompson, Tucson Arizona. ----- Original Message ----- From: N1BZRich@aol.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Touched some nerves? Steve, Wow, although I thought your first post was informative with some possible good suggestions on the list and interesting information on the Sport Cruiser, your second one was a little "snippy". No problem, lists like this are for people to exchange information and "points of view". But it has been my experience that you can "win friends and influence people" if you are nicer in your choice of words as you exchange information. But then, that is just my take of things, your mileage may vary. By the way, you have in interesting email address - AVN100. Are you, or have you ever been, an FAA employee in the Flight Procedures Office? If so, then the old saying about "we are not happy until you are not happy" might be appropriate. Just kidding of course, you should be laughing at that joke. Blue Skies, Buz ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try thncid=emlcntaolcom00000001">AOL.com today!




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