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0. 12:52 AM - LOC (Matt Dralle)
1. 12:01 AM - Touched some nerves? (AVN100@aol.com)
2. 06:45 AM - Re: Props and selection (Tex Mantell)
3. 07:51 AM - Re: Props and selection (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
4. 08:46 AM - Re: Touched some nerves? (N1BZRich@aol.com)
5. 09:23 PM - Re: Touched some nerves? (Johnny Thompson)
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Subject: | Touched some nerves? |
Wow! Touched a coupla nerves or what?
First.... Pete Krotchety, unlax and read your own forum. At the time I read
it, EVERY one of the folks (active customers, perhaps, since you didn't
immediately personally crap on them) except you posting on the subject was happy
with their Yahoo experience and some at least a bit unhappy with Matronics..
Have you asked Yahoo for help with your particular problem? Available 7/24
(not sure about Matronics coverage). The other day I heard someone else make
your exact same claim of sudden spam flooding to their "secret" yahoo address
and it turned out they forgot they were also using their "secret" Yahoo
address for bestiality porn. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just
a
thought. And I would like to withdraw my compliment on Arion customer
service attitude and responsiveness to customer feedback since you just vowed
(as
official, permanent, unalterable company policy apparently) to never
cooperate in any way with any present or future Yahoo Lightning Group no matter
how
many current and potential customers participate in it. Deming would be SO
proud.
Second...to Petey again. .Sincerely sorry about your problem with my font's
appearance but any cretin could see my tone was tentative, cordial, and
neophyte toward members of this group (senior instructor, examiner, and accident
investigator outside) rather than the SHOUTING you accused me of. Today of
course I am blending in extra length plus sarcasm and humor in response to
your crucifixion attempt... in case you hadn't noticed. Hopefully for the first
and last time. Again, I am writing this in Times 12, plain, and it looks
fine on digest and the HTML site. What you saw may be a glitch in that
Matronics stone-age programming language. If everyone sees it too large and bold
on
this post too please advise and I will not post again without exploring the
cause.
Third.... Hi John! Nice of you to jump in and pile on. You can call me
Steve. I see you're from Crossville, TN. Another Arion employee or work for
TradeAPlane or that trailer place outside of town or ??? See the parenthetical
above for my resume. Not that it matters.
Fourth and finally....to kinder gentler Jim. Apologies to all if my
observations ended up in the wrong topic... as I suppose these will also...but
do
you seriously not ever want to hear comparisons (even complimentary ones... I
noted your vastly superior Vne) between your chosen aircraft and its nearest
and thusfar more successful (in registrations foreign and domestic)
competitor? Let's say you prefer your head in the sand on that as is your right.
Would you arrogantly deny such information to others here? Even that one post?
Geez. Tough crowd. Except for the backchannel support I get from those
afraid to risk the curmudgeons' wrath in public... with their names known, kits
underway needing support, and all that. Look - show me a single factual error
in that comparison or another aircraft closer in price, style, dimensions,
useful load, and performance to the Lightning SP variant and I will burn
rubber backing up to apologize. Otherwise.... Happy Holidays to one and all.
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Subject: | Re: Props and selection |
I am building the normal Lightning, not light sport. No wing tip
extensions, and have hydraulis lifters.
thanks for your reply. Tex
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From: N1BZRich@aol.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Props and selection
Tex,
I can't remember if you are building to light sport standards and
whether you have solid lifters or hydraulic.
Buz
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Subject: | Re: Props and selection |
Tex,
Assuming you will do gear leg fairings and the Lightning wheel pants, I
would recommend either a Sensenich 62FK58 or possibly a 64ZK55. The FK will
probably give slightly better takeoff and climb performance and about the
same cruise. I am sure Nick will also have some recommendations, but based on
what I have seen flying different props on several different Lightnings, I
would go with one of the above.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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Subject: | Re: Touched some nerves? |
Steve,
Wow, although I thought your first post was informative with some
possible good suggestions on the list and interesting information on the Sport
Cruiser, your second one was a little "snippy". No problem, lists like this are
for people to exchange information and "points of view". But it has been my
experience that you can "win friends and influence people" if you are nicer
in your choice of words as you exchange information. But then, that is just
my take of things, your mileage may vary.
By the way, you have in interesting email address - AVN100. Are you, or
have you ever been, an FAA employee in the Flight Procedures Office? If
so, then the old saying about "we are not happy until you are not happy" might
be appropriate. Just kidding of course, you should be laughing at that
joke.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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Subject: | Re: Touched some nerves? |
Hi Buz, your just too nice. I have met his (AVN100) attitude many times
and there is nothing you can do for him. As for me I am enjoying my
Lightning and the great people involved. I just add AVN100 to the
blocked list.
Just comments from an old retired Army aviator that doesn't work for
anyone and won't listen to anyone who craps on my friends for whatever
reason. Life is too short.
Johnny Thompson, Tucson Arizona.
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From: N1BZRich@aol.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Touched some nerves?
Steve,
Wow, although I thought your first post was informative with some
possible good suggestions on the list and interesting information on the
Sport Cruiser, your second one was a little "snippy". No problem, lists
like this are for people to exchange information and "points of view".
But it has been my experience that you can "win friends and influence
people" if you are nicer in your choice of words as you exchange
information. But then, that is just my take of things, your mileage may
vary.
By the way, you have in interesting email address - AVN100. Are
you, or have you ever been, an FAA employee in the Flight Procedures
Office? If so, then the old saying about "we are not happy until you
are not happy" might be appropriate. Just kidding of course, you should
be laughing at that joke.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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