---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/29/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: Happy holidays (nick otterback) 2. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: Happy holidays (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM) 3. 03:46 PM - January 2009 Lightning Newsletter (N1BZRich@AOL.COM) 4. 05:10 PM - Re: IVO first flight (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com) 5. 05:16 PM - Re: Re: Happy holidays (Wayne Lenox) 6. 05:36 PM - Re: January 2009 Lightning Newsletter (Mark Rottler) 7. 06:46 PM - Latest Newsletter (Jim Langley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:45 AM PST US From: nick otterback Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: Happy holidays Hey bill and the group; - Its 2 degrees and the wind chill is well below zero here in wisconsin...i t hink my truck is frozen shut but have no ambition to go out and check...hop e you all have a great end of the year and see you back in the shop on the 5th of jauary. - Nick --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Bill Strahan wrote: From: Bill Strahan Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Happy holidays Happy holidays, and thanks to the guys and gals at Arion for making more th an a few dreams come true in 2008. Here's to many more in 2009! -Bill Strahan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221167#221167 =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:53 AM PST US From: IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: Happy holidays Likewise. Lynn Nelsen In a message dated 12/29/2008 11:53:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, vettin74@yahoo.com writes: Hey bill and the group; Its 2 degrees and the wind chill is well below zero here in wisconsin...i think my truck is frozen shut but have no ambition to go out and check...hope you all have a great end of the year and see you back in the shop on the 5th of jauary. Nick --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Bill Strahan wrote: From: Bill Strahan Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Happy holidays Happy holidays, and thanks to the guys and gals at Arion for making more than a few dreams come true in 2008. Here's to many more in 2009! -Bill Strahan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221167#221167 ======== (mip://0369c470/3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution") ======== (mip://0369c470/3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List") ======== (mip://0369c470/3D"http://forums.matronics.com") ======== **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:26 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM Subject: Lightning-List: January 2009 Lightning Newsletter All Lightning list members, The January Lightning Newsletter is now posted at the Arion Lightning web site (_http://www.flylightning.net/Newsletters.htm_ (http://www.flylightning.net/Newsletters.htm) ). It will also be up at Jim Langley's web site this evening (_http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html_ (http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html) ). As usual, I am requesting any and all feed back in order to improve the enjoyment and usefulness of the newsletter to the Lightning community. Along that line I am including a short survey about the newsletter and the past years editions at the bottom of this message. Just copy and past it (with your thoughts) in an email to me so that I can start working on possible improvements. Yes, this is an attempt to get more feedback from you on whether the newsletter is really worth the effort that goes into putting it out each month. So hopefully this "cut and past" effort will be easier for you to respond for my request for inputs and suggestions. I am also once again suggesting that you print out an extra copy or two to share with other aviation enthusiast and your EAA chapter; or just leave a few copies at your local airport lounge. That is an easy way to get the word out about this fine aircraft. I hope everyone had a great holiday season and will have a wonderful new year. Blue Skies, Buz PS: That's Buz with one "Z"; I use the Biblical spelling. If you do happen to use 2 "Zs", just remember the second "Z" is silent. PSS: Newsletter Survey - please send directly to me at: _n1bzrich@aol.com_ (mailto:n1bzrich@aol.com) - Of the 11 issues that have been published so far, my favorite lead article or type of lead article so far has been - Please make suggestions for future lead articles. ____________________________________________. - Note: One of my favorites was Dick Clevenger's "travel log". - Currently each issue is normally divided into the following sections: Lead article, News from the factory, News from the dealers, News from builders and flyers, Feedback from readers, Up coming events, Technical Tips, Skunk Works info, Other information, and Final thoughts. Questions - What other section should be included? _____________________________________________________________________________. - What section is the most useful and/or enjoyable? __________________________________________. - It the "Lightning of the Month" selection and photo a good thing? ______________________________ . - What about the past "Centerfold of the Month"? Your thoughts ________________________________. - Would you be willing to submit an article or story in the future? ________________________________. - Almost any subject or topic is OK, but Lightning related would probably be best, but not mandantory. - Other thoughts and suggestions _________________________________________________________. - Remember, I want any feedback, good or bad, and any inputs for future issues. That is the only way this newsletter is going to keep being published and be useful to the group. Remember the newsletter should be helpful and enjoyable to current, future, and potential builders and flyers. I need your help to meet that goal. **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:43 PM PST US From: IFLYSMODEL@aol.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: IVO first flight Hey Doug: We have not heard any more about this great propeller. Is it still working OK, or has it been removed from service? How about some more data?? Lynn Nelsen In a message dated 11/14/2008 10:04:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Kayberg@AOL.COM writes: Sorry, but I gotta be a little fuzzy on the details. It was just two short flights by two different people. The airspeed had just been changed because it "indicated a little low" but the new one "indicates a little high". The speed runs were in level flight but the optimum prop settings had not be reached. 175 mph is perhaps the fastest this airframe had gone...and it has had a couple of Sensnich props on it before. Altitude for the runs was about 1500 feet. It was a cool day, so probably close to sea level. The pitch adjust worked fine. When you lowered the nose after the climbout, the rpms went past 3300 easily and the pitch adjust dropped it to ???? . Tweeking is needed because it would not turn more than 2350 static. The owner is looking for more thrust on takeoff and more speed at the top. The consensus of the test pilots was, "that is the fastest that airplane has ever gone" ...both the level passes and the obligitory dive to high speed down the runway were fast. I dont know the cost of the IVO, since that was not in my department, but it is close to the cost of the ground adjust Senny. More than a fixed pitch, but not by a lot. the other thing was cooling. Even with no spinner (fitting one will be a bitch) it ran cooler than usual. Of course it was a cool day, but cooling seemed better. The IVO has good pitch to the blades close to the air inlets. Again, I would caution those out there in radio land to wait until more testing is done. And dont plan on it being real scientific. In my mind, we need to see how the prop stands the pulses. However, the consensus was that this is the smoothest prop yet, so it cant all be bad. the IVO needs to be retorqued ever hour or so during the first 10 hours of running. The blades "settle in" to the grip on the hub plates and it is very important that those not get loose. There is some plan afoot to remove one blade and try it as a two blade (easily done with an IVO) Keep in mind this project is assisted by the Green Landings technical staff, but not under their direct control. Doug In a message dated 11/13/2008 9:23:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, N1BZRich@aol.com writes: Doug, How about some clarification of what you mean by "a top of 175". Is that MHP or Knots? And what is "low altitude"? And since you said low altitude, I assume you are talking indicated airspeed. Are we talking wide open throttle? And are we talking about a "pass down the runway" (I seem to remember you guys are about 500 AGL)? And if so, what was the rpm at WOT? Were you able to adjust the pitch in flight to get the engine to be WOT at 3300 rpm? With the fixed pitch I am now using I can see just over 200 MPH (pulling back the throttle to keep from going over 3300 rpm) on a high speed pass down the runway, but remember I am basically at sea level. At 5000', (again pulling back the throttle to stay at 3300) it shows 185 to 187 MPH true. Also what is the going price for the in-flight adjustable IVO? Does it still have those narrow cord blades? How is the Cub project coming along? And remember, you are invited to come here to fly my Cub. Blue Skies, Buz (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List) **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:51 PM PST US From: "Wayne Lenox" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: Happy holidays Nick Should be 72 degrees in Gila Bend, AZ tomorrow. Time to go fly!! Wayne N123WL -- nick otterback wrote: Hey bill and the group; Its 2 degrees and the wind chill is well below z ero here in wisconsin...i think my truck is frozen shut but have no ambi tion to go out and check...hope you all have a great end of the year and see you back in the shop on the 5th of jauary. Nick --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Bill Strahan wrote: From: Bill Strahan Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Happy holidays holidays, and thanks to the guys and gals at Arion for making more than afew dreams come true in 2008. Here's to many more in 2009!-Bill Strah anRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php? p=221167#221167 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ____________________________________________________________ Click for online loan, fast & no lender fee, approval today http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2P5snn3yJTsQM6mnQOXMgw BBrEstwRlGPGxKLmU0Xohkblx/ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:48 PM PST US From: "Mark Rottler" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: January 2009 Lightning Newsletter Hello Buz, 1. "Bear Builds a Lightning" Honorable Mention: "The 51% Rule" 2. A "build" article from one of the home (not assisted) builders. 3. None that I can think of. 4. Lead story, technical tips 5. Yes, keep the "Lightning of the Month." Pin-ups are *always* a good thing. :-) 6. Again, pin-ups are all good. 7. If I ever get enough money to buy a kit, sure! 8. Keep up the great work! PS. I know most people are just enjoying flying their Lightning. However, there are others (like Earl) who are probably doing things that most other folks find cool (or just unusual). I'm sure it is very difficult to find these activities and even more difficult to get someone to take the time to write them up. However, more articles about cool/unusual uses of the Lightning would be wonderful too. Thanks again for all of your hard work, Mark. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:17 PM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: Lightning-List: Latest Newsletter Ok, the latest is up at the following address. http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html I also reformatted the table which was causing some problems. If you can not see the latest, then refresh your page. As always, thanks Buz, Linda and everyone else who contributed to the newletter. 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