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1. 03:26 AM - Re: Elevator Balance modification. (jhausch)
2. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Elevator Balance modification. (Wayne Lenox)
3. 08:08 AM - Seal your wing gpas!!!!! (flylightning)
4. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: Elevator Balance modification. (flylightning)
5. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: Elevator Balance modification. (flylightning)
6. 02:00 PM - Re: Seal your wing gpas!!!!! (n5pb@aol.com)
7. 02:15 PM - Re: Elevator Balance modification. (jhausch)
8. 02:15 PM - Re: Seal your wing gpas!!!!! (James, Clive R)
9. 04:34 PM - Andair Fuel Valve (Brian Whittingham)
10. 07:09 PM - Re: Re: Elevator Balance modification. (Mark Stauffer)
11. 07:36 PM - Re: Andair Fuel Valve (Jim Langley)
12. 07:56 PM - Re: Andair Fuel Valve (N1BZRich@aol.com)
13. 08:17 PM - Re: Andair Fuel Valve (Jim Langley)
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Balance modification. |
Thanks for posting those pics and providing your impressions of the change.
Are you going to do any testing for flutter near Vne?
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Balance modification. |
I think I will leave that to Nick.
Wayne
-- "jhausch" <jhausch@charter.net> wrote:
Thanks for posting those pics and providing your impressions of the chan
ge.
Are you going to do any testing for flutter near Vne?
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| Subject: | Seal your wing gpas!!!!! |
To Group,
I will have to take the blame for this one and I am sorry for not having it
the build manual. During the first flight of the prototype we noticed a
heavy buffet in the tail plane when in high angle of attack situations. Like
slow turns, say under 110knts. Or slow with no flaps. With out the gaps
between the wings sealed there is a significant root wake formed. This will
buffet the tail plane when the tail plane is down in the situations listed
above. The wake is created thru the gaps and the spar and other attachments
which cause very good turbulence. With the gap sealed, there is not buffet ,
i.e smooth airflow about the fuse and tail plane. I have been guilty of
forgetting myself on a few occasions with the exact same results. No it is
not fun and will give you quite a pucker factor..discontinue the flight as
soon as possible if you have forgot and find out on the first flight! So,
seal the wing root gaps!!!
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Balance modification. |
Wayne,
Great I was waiting to here on the mod....At least you have good weather to
fly!
Nick
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Lenox
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:59 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Elevator Balance modification.
Nick
I have just completed the modification to the elevator balance on N123WL. I
think the elevator feel is much better then before. It is by no way heavy
and much more balanced with the aileron's. I like the modification, it
helps the Lightning fly much easier in turbulence.
I will try to attach pictures.
Wayne
N123WL
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Balance modification. |
I have had the prototype to Vne several times with the balance mod done and
it is not a problem...with attempts to induce flutter none was found.....
nick
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jhausch
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:26 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Elevator Balance modification.
Thanks for posting those pics and providing your impressions of the change.
Are you going to do any testing for flutter near Vne?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222934#222934
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| Subject: | Re: Seal your wing gpas!!!!! |
Nick,
Will this happen even when the wing root is flared onto the fuselage?
Paul
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From: flylightning <info@flylightning.net>
Sent: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:59 am
Subject: Lightning-List: Seal your wing gpas!!!!!
To Group,
=C2-
I will have to take the blame for this one and I am sorry for not having it
the build manual. During the first flight of the prototype we noticed a heav
y buffet in the tail plane when in high angle of attack situations. Like slo
w turns, say under 110knts. Or slow with no flaps. With out the gaps between
the wings sealed there is a significant root wake formed. This will buffet
the tail plane when the tail plane is down in the situations listed above. T
he wake is created thru the gaps and the spar and other attachments which ca
use very good turbulence. With the gap sealed, there is not buffet , i.e smo
oth airflow about the fuse and tail plane. I have been guilty of forgetting
myself on a few occasions with the exact same results. No it is not fun and
will give you quite a pucker factor.discontinue the flight as soon
as possible if you have forgot and find out on the first flight!=C2- So, s
eal the wing root gaps!!!
=C2-
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Balance modification. |
Thanks, Nick.
-Jim
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| Subject: | Seal your wing gpas!!!!! |
Thanks Nick, Esqual flying in the morning as was thinking the gap seals
won't matter......
Will clean up and retape
CJ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
flylightning
Sent: 05 January 2009 16:00
Subject: Lightning-List: Seal your wing gpas!!!!!
To Group,
I will have to take the blame for this one and I am sorry for not having
it the build manual. During the first flight of the prototype we noticed
a heavy buffet in the tail plane when in high angle of attack
situations. Like slow turns, say under 110knts. Or slow with no flaps.
With out the gaps between the wings sealed there is a significant root
wake formed. This will buffet the tail plane when the tail plane is down
in the situations listed above. The wake is created thru the gaps and
the spar and other attachments which cause very good turbulence. With
the gap sealed, there is not buffet , i.e smooth airflow about the fuse
and tail plane. I have been guilty of forgetting myself on a few
occasions with the exact same results. No it is not fun and will give
you quite a pucker factor....discontinue the flight as soon as possible
if you have forgot and find out on the first flight! So, seal the wing
root gaps!!!
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
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| Subject: | Andair Fuel Valve |
Buz=2C
Do you have a good straight on picture of your fuel valve selector? It'
s such a simple part=2C but I remember that being a wonderfully designed pa
rt. I also liked that you couldn't go to off accidentally. Is your fuel v
alve a left=2C right=2C both=2C off all at 90 degrees apart? Might be wort
h a little blurb in your newsletter to "review" that piece of hardware. Th
anks=2C Brian W.
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Balance modification. |
Wayne,
Great job! At first I thought you posted pictures of our demo!!
Glad you like the way it feels.
Happy New Year to you and Nell.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Lenox
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:59 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Elevator Balance modification.
Nick
I have just completed the modification to the elevator balance on N123WL. I
think the elevator feel is much better then before. It is by no way heavy
and much more balanced with the aileron's. I like the modification, it
helps the Lightning fly much easier in turbulence.
I will try to attach pictures.
Wayne
N123WL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222827#222827
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| Subject: | Andair Fuel Valve |
Brian:
Mine is Left - Right - OFF.
http://www.andair.co.uk/pix/x7-5.jpg
I would not use a both as it increases the likelihood of draining one tank
completely.
Jim!
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian
Whittingham
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:34 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Andair Fuel Valve
Buz,
Do you have a good straight on picture of your fuel valve selector? It's
such a simple part, but I remember that being a wonderfully designed part.
I also liked that you couldn't go to off accidentally. Is your fuel valve a
left, right, both, off all at 90 degrees apart? Might be worth a little
blurb in your newsletter to "review" that piece of hardware. Thanks, Brian
W.
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve |
Brian,
The photo that Jim sent is the model of Andair that I have. The neat
thing about it is that you don't have a 180 degree pointer change, you only
have to move it 90 degrees to go from left tank to right tank. The older ones
required a 180 degree change, but this newer model came out just before I
needed one. I had to get it from England, as there were not in the US at that
time. I am sure they are available here now. Andair is definitely the way to
go.
Buz
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| Subject: | Andair Fuel Valve |
Amen amen amen brother!
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
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N1BZRich@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Andair Fuel Valve
Brian,
The photo that Jim sent is the model of Andair that I have. The neat
thing about it is that you don't have a 180 degree pointer change, you only
have to move it 90 degrees to go from left tank to right tank. The older
ones required a 180 degree change, but this newer model came out just before
I needed one. I had to get it from England, as there were not in the US at
that time. I am sure they are available here now. Andair is definitely the
way to go.
Buz
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