---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/07/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:25 AM - Re: Seal your wing gpas!!!!! (EAFerguson@AOL.COM) 2. 07:56 AM - Re: Seal your wing gpas!!!!! (flylightning) 3. 03:54 PM - Re: New EFIS on the Horizon (Colin J. Kennedy) 4. 06:06 PM - Re: Latest Newsletter (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM) 5. 06:17 PM - Re: New EFIS on the Horizon (Jim Langley) 6. 06:38 PM - Re: Latest Newsletter (Jim Langley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:47 AM PST US From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Seal your wing gpas!!!!! In a message dated 1/6/2009 5:32:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, info@flylightning.net writes: .maybe some floats are in order. Nick, Does this mean a float plane version? Earl **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:04 AM PST US From: "flylightning" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Seal your wing gpas!!!!! Would be interesting but it stopped raining today so I think I am ok with the land lover version. Nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EAFerguson@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:25 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Seal your wing gpas!!!!! In a message dated 1/6/2009 5:32:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, info@flylightning.net writes: ..maybe some floats are in order. Nick, Does this mean a float plane version? Earl _____ New year...new news. Be thelcom00000026">headlines. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:14 PM PST US From: "Colin J. Kennedy" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: New EFIS on the Horizon There is a US distributor for these products. I agree that they look interesting, but I have the impression they have been "just around the corner" for a considerable time now: www.aveousa.com Colin K. OK Lightning # 52 under construction. http://www.mykitlog.com/cojaken -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Whittingham Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: New EFIS on the Horizon All, In the past decade we have seen a revolution in cockpit technology as affordable EFIS and AHRS have made their way into GA cockpits. I grew up in the computer age and find it fairly easy to switch between different EFIS displays. I realize that many of you, and many of the engineers who design these systems did not though. I have been looking for something more exciting. I have been envisioning a series of smart MFD's that would have user definable presets, intuitive use, and touch sensitive. Alas, they are not available....yet. What I found was a unique system that if it works as advertise will be an incredible leap forward. I mean this would leave the B787 pilots wanting. Imagine a touch screen system that uses some of the same technology as the I-Phone. When the display is off it simply looks like a shiny piece of plastic. When the displays come to life they are crisp and readable in the sunlight. They give you the ability to have a virtual horizon, engine display, navigational display, moving map, VHF and built in transponder, traffic avoidance, digital music input, auto CG and in flight weight determination, and much more. Pair it up with the Smartstick or Smartyoke display and you'll get a small quick select menu which can control lights, display the top 10 nearest airports with a direct to function, set all radios to a "home" airport, dial cell phone numbers and pipe it through your headset, control panel display brightness, and display all your personal checklists. The displays come in a 3.7 inch screen and a 5.7 inch screen and both panels are around 1.5 inches deep. All displays link up and cross communicate with one another. If your digital radio fails for whatever reason on one screen then you can pull it up on another screen adding redundance. If your engine fails in flight it can be set to display the appropriate checklist. Alternator stops charging the battery, pulls up that appropriate checklist. Change your mind and want to go to another airport off-course, or want to add in a waypoint you simply touch the screen where you want to add that in. For me I love the data collecting and analysis. Well, with one of the functions it will record all flight, GPS Nav, and engine data for the entire flight to a USB drive. It is true that it's still in development. Last year they were projecting the price for 8 displays to run around $13,000. That's still a little steep for a lot of people, but how much of that functionality do you have with your current setup? If you get 2 screens what does that come out to be? I'm not sure, but I think that it'd be pretty competitive pricing. You could have a fully customized panel (similar to some custom audio car panels) which would look almost entirely like a single piece of shiny black plastic when the system is off, and then when you power it up it all comes alive. For you old military types, they also plan to have an optional HUD. Plenty of other goodies like an integrated black box, autopilot, trim, flaps, backup battery, RAT (Ram Air Turbine for emergency power). It also is supposed to draw about 500mA per display. Do the math on that, it's really good. Just armchair flying and dreaming of the not too distant future. Check it out for yourselves here: http://www.pkaviation.com.au/page8.htm and here: http://www.pkaviation.com.au/page19.htm P.S. The Aveorack rocker switches are pretty sweet too. Let me know what you guys think. Brian W. _____ It's the same HotmailR. If by "same" you mean up to 70% faster. Get your account now. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:02 PM PST US From: IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Latest Newsletter Hey Jim: I use the AOL browser because I am used to using it. I did not fin d anything under tools either on the browser or on control panel. I will just have to put up with the problem I guess. Thanks anyway Lynn In a message dated 12/30/2008 10:49:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pequeajim@gmail.com writes: Hi Lynn: You are experiencing an annoying problem that everyone has once in a while. What is happening is that your browser, (Internet Explorer I presume) has cashed the pages of the web site locally on your hard drive. It does this to help speed things up with you are browsing. SO, if you visit a site once, the page is stored locally along with the address and when you visit the same site again, it does not have to reload the page since you have it stored on your local drive. Now, if I update a page since you last visited the site, and you go back, the old page it still loaded. Win IE does this as a default.. If you go to "Tools", then "Internet Options". The defaule tab is "General", and look for the "Settings" button in the "Temporary Internet FIles" area. Click this and select "Every time you sta rt Internet Explorer" under "Check for newer versions of stored pages". There is another option that allows you to do the same thing every time you visit a page, but I don't use this as it slows things down a bit. Hope this helps. If not, I'll send you my number and walk you through it. Happy Holidays Jim! _www.jimslightning.com_ (http://www.jimslightning.com/) On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:10 AM, <_IFLYSMODEL@aol.com_ (mailto:IFLYSMODEL@aol.com) > wrote: Hey Jim: I still have the same problems as last month, so I expect it is my computer. If I click on either one of your address's, I end up with only 11 newsletters. If I type in your address, either one, I get all 12 newsletter s. I wish I knew enough about computers to solve the problem, but I do not. Lynn In a message dated 12/29/2008 9:46:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _pequeajim@gmail.com_ (mailto:pequeajim@gmail.com) writes: Ok, the latest is up at the following address _http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html_ (http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html) I also reformatted the table which was causing some problems. If you can not see the latest, then refresh your page. As always, thanks Buz, Linda and everyone else who contributed to the newletter. 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Be the first to know what is making ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:25 PM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: New EFIS on the Horizon I like their rocker switches, nice. They are very artistic in all of their designs. Their flight deck has been a long time coming. From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin J. Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: New EFIS on the Horizon There is a US distributor for these products. I agree that they look interesting, but I have the impression they have been "just around the corner" for a considerable time now: www.aveousa.com Colin K. OK Lightning # 52 under construction. http://www.mykitlog.com/cojaken -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Whittingham Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: New EFIS on the Horizon All, In the past decade we have seen a revolution in cockpit technology as affordable EFIS and AHRS have made their way into GA cockpits. I grew up in the computer age and find it fairly easy to switch between different EFIS displays. I realize that many of you, and many of the engineers who design these systems did not though. I have been looking for something more exciting. I have been envisioning a series of smart MFD's that would have user definable presets, intuitive use, and touch sensitive. Alas, they are not available....yet. What I found was a unique system that if it works as advertise will be an incredible leap forward. I mean this would leave the B787 pilots wanting. Imagine a touch screen system that uses some of the same technology as the I-Phone. When the display is off it simply looks like a shiny piece of plastic. When the displays come to life they are crisp and readable in the sunlight. They give you the ability to have a virtual horizon, engine display, navigational display, moving map, VHF and built in transponder, traffic avoidance, digital music input, auto CG and in flight weight determination, and much more. Pair it up with the Smartstick or Smartyoke display and you'll get a small quick select menu which can control lights, display the top 10 nearest airports with a direct to function, set all radios to a "home" airport, dial cell phone numbers and pipe it through your headset, control panel display brightness, and display all your personal checklists. The displays come in a 3.7 inch screen and a 5.7 inch screen and both panels are around 1.5 inches deep. All displays link up and cross communicate with one another. If your digital radio fails for whatever reason on one screen then you can pull it up on another screen adding redundance. If your engine fails in flight it can be set to display the appropriate checklist. Alternator stops charging the battery, pulls up that appropriate checklist. Change your mind and want to go to another airport off-course, or want to add in a waypoint you simply touch the screen where you want to add that in. For me I love the data collecting and analysis. Well, with one of the functions it will record all flight, GPS Nav, and engine data for the entire flight to a USB drive. It is true that it's still in development. Last year they were projecting the price for 8 displays to run around $13,000. That's still a little steep for a lot of people, but how much of that functionality do you have with your current setup? If you get 2 screens what does that come out to be? I'm not sure, but I think that it'd be pretty competitive pricing. You could have a fully customized panel (similar to some custom audio car panels) which would look almost entirely like a single piece of shiny black plastic when the system is off, and then when you power it up it all comes alive. For you old military types, they also plan to have an optional HUD. Plenty of other goodies like an integrated black box, autopilot, trim, flaps, backup battery, RAT (Ram Air Turbine for emergency power). It also is supposed to draw about 500mA per display. Do the math on that, it's really good. Just armchair flying and dreaming of the not too distant future. Check it out for yourselves here: http://www.pkaviation.com.au/page8.htm and here: http://www.pkaviation.com.au/page19.htm P.S. The Aveorack rocker switches are pretty sweet too. Let me know what you guys think. Brian W. _____ It's the same HotmailR. If by "same" you mean up to 70% faster. Get your account now. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:17 PM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Latest Newsletter Lynn: Try the directions on this page. They might help. Let me know how you make out. http://is.asu.edu/instruction/training/clearcache.html Jim! From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of IFLYSMODEL@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Latest Newsletter Hey Jim: I use the AOL browser because I am used to using it. I did not find anything under tools either on the browser or on control panel. I will just have to put up with the problem I guess. Thanks anyway Lynn In a message dated 12/30/2008 10:49:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pequeajim@gmail.com writes: Hi Lynn: You are experiencing an annoying problem that everyone has once in a while. What is happening is that your browser, (Internet Explorer I presume) has cashed the pages of the web site locally on your hard drive. It does this to help speed things up with you are browsing. SO, if you visit a site once, the page is stored locally along with the address and when you visit the same site again, it does not have to reload the page since you have it stored on your local drive. Now, if I update a page since you last visited the site, and you go back, the old page it still loaded. Win IE does this as a default.. If you go to "Tools", then "Internet Options". The defaule tab is "General", and look for the "Settings" button in the "Temporary Internet FIles" area. Click this and select "Every time you start Internet Explorer" under "Check for newer versions of stored pages". There is another option that allows you to do the same thing every time you visit a page, but I don't use this as it slows things down a bit. Hope this helps. If not, I'll send you my number and walk you through it. Happy Holidays Jim! www.jimslightning.com On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:10 AM, wrote: Hey Jim: I still have the same problems as last month, so I expect it is my computer. If I click on either one of your address's, I end up with only 11 newsletters. If I type in your address, either one, I get all 12 newsletters. I wish I knew enough about computers to solve the problem, but I do not. Lynn In a message dated 12/29/2008 9:46:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pequeajim@gmail.com writes: Ok, the latest is up at the following address http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html I also reformatted the table which was causing some problems. If you can not see the latest, then refresh your page. As always, thanks Buz, Linda and everyone else who contributed to the newletter. 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